CCM Sweet Sixteen: Dunes v. WSOP (Current Secondaries) (1 Viewer)
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Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
No friggin comments here? I think we found the sacrificial lamb for the second round.
I feel like the Dunes aren't 1 set, but 3 different sets. Could be the photos, or just different release dates for chips that were all in play around the same time period. It's confusing to me, so I'm going with the continuity of the WSOP 2nds.
I feel like the Dunes aren't 1 set, but 3 different sets. Could be the photos, or just different release dates for chips that were all in play around the same time period. It's confusing to me, so I'm going with the continuity of the WSOP 2nds.
OK, some of this has to be the pictures messing with people. I fully admit that the Dunes $25 isn't a strong chip, which is why you drop in the over-powered and over-sized 43mm Baccarat $20 to replace it!
What other set offers 43mm chips from $5 and up for Pete's sake? Yes, you can build an entire 43mm set with 5s, 20s, 100s, and on up with the Dunes. The $500, $1k, $5k, and $25k chips (picture added below) simply crush anything the WSOP tries to put out there.
If history comes into play at all, it's game over. The foundation of the Bellagio is the Dunes, and in effect a large part of the foundation of Vegas itself. C'mon Man!
@bergs, @ovo, @Jackstraw, @Shaggy: Get in here with some better pics!
What other set offers 43mm chips from $5 and up for Pete's sake? Yes, you can build an entire 43mm set with 5s, 20s, 100s, and on up with the Dunes. The $500, $1k, $5k, and $25k chips (picture added below) simply crush anything the WSOP tries to put out there.
If history comes into play at all, it's game over. The foundation of the Bellagio is the Dunes, and in effect a large part of the foundation of Vegas itself. C'mon Man!
@bergs, @ovo, @Jackstraw, @Shaggy: Get in here with some better pics!
slisk250
Straight Flush
The Dunes are classic, great spots, one of the best inlays, blows WSOP away IMO.
slisk250
Straight Flush
I'm sure i"m in the minority but I really never liked the WSOP chips in any way, ever. It's an easy vote for me but I also like Brussels sprouts
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derekdd23
Flush
When roasted properly brussels sprouts are amazing, especially with bacon. Also WSOP secondaries are the shit!
slisk250
Straight Flush
Maybe I just need to feel them in my hands...not talking about the sprouts.
bergs
Royal Flush
Not sure what's confusing - it's one set of chips, just like the Ritz (which also includes a $20). They offered normal chips and 43mm (as did PNY, Foxwoods, and other properties).
The criticism against the Dunes isn't that they are confusing unless you have massive OCD. The criticism against the Dunes is the boring (albeit incredibly rare in playable amounts) $1s and the drab $25s.
The knock against the WSOP chips is that it's the same edgespot on every chip.
Can't go wrong with either set IMO. Tough first round matchup for both.
slisk250
Straight Flush
Agreed except for the comment about the 25. Great color for this classic set and I love it. If CPC added an olive green, they would be finding their way to many custom sets IMO.
I'm still working on a tourney set, but here is the starting stack WSOP style 30k
but how do you reel in the donks like Berg and jbutler after they shoot their wad on the first round ?
Give them a rebuy with class
but how do you reel in the donks like Berg and jbutler after they shoot their wad on the first round ?
Give them a rebuy with class
Both sets are great, and I'd gladly own either one. But if I could only own one, the superb colors of the wsop set would win out. So much so, that I'd rather have the GCOP replicas than Dunes replicas, and probably pick them over original Dunes, too.
Shaggy
Full House
This is a totally unfair matchup for an early round.
Dunes are one of a kind awesome. One of my all time favorites (super bias here). One of the few house molds that was done right. Just reeks classic vegas.
Like Pasi, I'm a sucker for 818 spots plus the WSOP colors pop like all getout. Tournament sets having the same spots design prett standard and doesn't count against the WSOP's at all.
Can't bring myself to make this decision right now, too frickin hard. Will defer to later.
Abstain (for now)
Dunes are one of a kind awesome. One of my all time favorites (super bias here). One of the few house molds that was done right. Just reeks classic vegas.
Like Pasi, I'm a sucker for 818 spots plus the WSOP colors pop like all getout. Tournament sets having the same spots design prett standard and doesn't count against the WSOP's at all.
Can't bring myself to make this decision right now, too frickin hard. Will defer to later.
Abstain (for now)
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
OK, some of this has to be the pictures messing with people. I fully admit that the Dunes $25 isn't a strong chip, which is why you drop in the over-powered and over-sized 43mm Baccarat $20 to replace it!
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What other set offers 43mm chips from $5 and up for Pete's sake? Yes, you can build an entire 43mm set with 5s, 20s, 100s, and on up with the Dunes. The $500, $1k, $5k, and $25k chips (picture added below) simply crush anything the WSOP tries to put out there.
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If history comes into play at all, it's game over. The foundation of the Bellagio is the Dunes, and in effect a large part of the foundation of Vegas itself. C'mon Man!
@bergs, @ovo, @Jackstraw, @Shaggy: Get in here with some better pics!
This was what I was missing. The first pic for the Dunes set doesn't show that the chip next to the hundo is a $20. I love the combo from a built set point of view, but once again, I'm not viewing this voting from the POV of what I can buy to make a great set. Baccarat chips are different from roulettes, which are different from regular chips which are different from tournament chips.
This would be an awesome set to play on.
In some respects I would rather play with these than the WSOPs perhaps (though I strongly prefer playing tournaments over cash games). Problem is, that they wern't the casino's set - they're a collectors set (and the collector obv. knows chips better than the guy making decisions for the casino).
Sticking with the WSOP here, but cannot disagree that the Dunes house mold is a winner, and the $1 is simple but excellent - but if someone mimicked the colors/spots of the entire set for a custom set, they would never make the Custom Chip HoF.
slisk250
Straight Flush
This was what I was missing. The first pic for the Dunes set doesn't show that the chip next to the hundo is a $20. I love the combo from a built set point of view, but once again, I'm not viewing this voting from the POV of what I can buy to make a great set. Baccarat chips are different from roulettes, which are different from regular chips which are different from tournament chips.
This would be an awesome set to play on.
In some respects I would rather play with these than the WSOPs perhaps (though I strongly prefer playing tournaments over cash games). Problem is, that they wern't the casino's set - they're a collectors set (and the collector obv. knows chips better than the guy making decisions for the casino).
Sticking with the WSOP here, but cannot disagree that the Dunes house mold is a winner, and the $1 is simple but excellent - but if someone mimicked the colors/spots of the entire set for a custom set, they would never make the Custom Chip HoF.
Dunes chips aren't Casino chips?
I doubt my mimic custom set of Mapes would ever be considered a HOF set...it's a mimic. Don't understand this comparison.
bergs
Royal Flush
All of these chips were in play at the Dunes casino in 1989. I had mint everything except the $1s (which are impossible to find non-mint) but there are also many casino-used chips at Spinettit's.
I took Zombie's comment to mean that he loved the cash set with the oversize baccarat $20s and $100s, but that if one walked into the poker room at Dunes back in the day, there would be no games playing with that combo of chips; only the 39mm $25s and $100s.
But the same is true for a lot of these sets. The vast majority of poker rooms only use $3s, $10s, and $20s in very specific games. At Borgata, the only game you'll see blue $10s in is the $40/80 LHE game. The only game you'll see yellow $20s in is the $80/160 mix.
I guess it all comes down to simply using one's own discretion as to what criteria to use when ranking these sets, but to me how the chips are actually used by the poker room manager doesn't come into it. If we all wanted to be chip originalists and only use the chips within the confines of their actual historical use, we'd all buy PNYs and stick them in the closet, never to see play. After all, they were never actually used. To my mind, if the chip was produced, it's part of the set and should be considered when comparing one set to another.
Wow.
slisk250
Straight Flush
I've got about 20 chip sets. If I had to sell all of them except my customs and one casino set, Dunes get the spot. I will never sell them. On the other hand if I had some replica WSOP chips and somebody wanted them. I give them away for free. Replicas? meh
On the other hand, you've not had the opportunity to own ~or~ play with the WSOP ~or~ GCOP chips.... which just might change your mind. 
All I can tell you is that over time, I have owned a whole bunch of chips (voting with my chipping dollars), including several old-school Vegas chips.....and a Dunes set is not in the current mix.
Were a WSOP set actually made available to me, it hands-down would be the last to ever leave. Since it's not, the GCOP set remains one of my top-three sets in the collection.
All I can tell you is that over time, I have owned a whole bunch of chips (voting with my chipping dollars), including several old-school Vegas chips.....and a Dunes set is not in the current mix.
Were a WSOP set actually made available to me, it hands-down would be the last to ever leave. Since it's not, the GCOP set remains one of my top-three sets in the collection.
Toonexile
Pair
Hardest decision of this round for me and I'm going to have to think about it and come back later
chipjoker
Flush
Dunes for me ALL the way..
This could easily be an Elite 8 matchup in my opinion. Both of these sets are drop dead gorgeous, but obviously from different eras.
Dunes have been on my radar longer, and the WSOP secondaries are amazingly new/shiny/awesome, so I am trying not to let either of those biases influence my decision, but I really don't see a wrong answer in this poll.
Dunes have been on my radar longer, and the WSOP secondaries are amazingly new/shiny/awesome, so I am trying not to let either of those biases influence my decision, but I really don't see a wrong answer in this poll.
bergs
Royal Flush
I loved the secondaries till I saw them in racks. They look like candy. I'm voting Dunes (I know, shocker).
Please buy some GCOP chips. I want them, I'll even pay for shipping.
slisk250
Straight Flush
Please buy some GCOP chips. I want them, I'll even pay for shipping.
Dave, those WSOP rio chips are RHC. Now I hate them.
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