Mine Stolen? Keep Eye out for Aruba Palm Beach Chip set. (1 Viewer)

[NayNay]

Need the help of the forum here... Bought a set of Chips from a fellow forum member here before Xmas, and the chips were delivered to me in Boston on the 21st. I've called around all the USPS locations, and it's verified delivered. My neighbor said she saw the package and then it was gone (assuming I took it in).

I imagine someone who stole these (if stolen) will want to sell via Craigslist, eBay, so I invite anyone to help keep an eye out for these.

I'll call local pawn shops today. BUMMER!

 

[Meddler2]

Crappy.

 

[links_slayer]

i'm 0-for-something (4? 5?) when dealing with USPS insurance claims. i hope you have better results if these never show up. sorry to hear about this.

 

[Trihonda]

Ouchies!

Best of luck reclaiming these. Hope that insurance helps, but I'm guessing (just a guess) that if these a
We're actually delivered (confirmed through a neighbor and the USPS), then shipping insurance might not be applicable. More likely home owners or rental insurance my kick in then?

My heart aches for you dude.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

Sorry, that sucks! Do you, or the person you bought them from, have any pics you can post so we can keep an eye out? Count and denominations also please?

 

[bentax1978]

Here are some pictures of the chips in case anyone sees them pop up for sale anywhere. 735 total chips.

199 x $1
436 x $5
100 x $25

I will be filing a claim with USPS today, though as others have already said (and if they were in fact delivered), the likelihood of a successful USPS insurance claim is quite small

 

[BiGGyT]

sucks, hopefully they don't just toss them since it is not a PS4. Sunburst $1 are unusual IMO, might be easy to spot on eBay or craigslist.

 

[David O]

Man that sucks! I think we should all start using signature confirmation on deliveries of valuable sets. I think it is a small price to pay to make sure the a??holes do not get their hands on our chips. It is hard enough to keep them in the community!!!
Ok, I am good now and off of the soapbox.

 

[AfterTheFact]

I posted this on the chipboard also.

Sorry this happened.

 

[derekdd23]

If this was just a random grab, i'm sure they will show up on craigslist or eBay. The average person probably doesn't play enough poker to keep these.

I never trust anyone from stealing so I used to take days off for expensive shipments, or have them held at the post office. Luckily i work from home now so i dont need to worry.

 

[abby99]

So sorry to hear that this happened. I hope that either the chips are recovered or that USPS pays the insurance claim. I've been the victim of a missing package just once, but fortunately it only cost $25 to replace the items.

I think that package theft is going to increase as shopping online becomes increasingly popular. I'm fortunate to be able to have packages delivered to my office, but that's not possible for everyone. Having packages held at the post office makes so much sense even if it's inconvenient.

 

[Joe Harris]

Make sure you file a police report also. That way you have a chance of getting them back if the assholes are caught.

 

[sleepypiggly]

USPS will only pay insurance if it's insured to begin with. And since insured packages require signature my guess is that the package was not insured.

Still, priority mail packages have a base insurance built into the mailing price, something like $100 for medium/large flat rate boxes so you can try to file an online claim.

I've only filed a USPS claim once, out of thousands of packages shipped. A buyer claimed the package got wet and half the contents were gone. I provided all selling details with pics of package provided by the buyer. I didnt buy insurance but the claim was successful for the base $100 amount and a check was issued in about a week.

 

[sleepypiggly]

You should talk to your mailman about this too. Just to make sure that he did indeed deliver the package and that it was stolen. It also lets them know to keep a lookout in the future for these kinds of behavior.

 

[bentax1978]

USPS will only pay insurance if it's insured to begin with. And since insured packages require signature my guess is that the package was not insured.

Still, priority mail packages have a base insurance built into the mailing price, something like $100 for medium/large flat rate boxes so you can try to file an online claim.

I've only filed a USPS claim once, out of thousands of packages shipped. A buyer claimed the package got wet and half the contents were gone. I provided all selling details with pics of package provided by the buyer. I didnt buy insurance but the claim was successful for the base $100 amount and a check was issued in about a week.

I am the sender, and the package was actually insured.

I am a little surprised that USPS just left the package on his doorstop given the amount it was insured for, so this will certainly be the basis of my argument when I file the claim.

 

[links_slayer]

Still, priority mail packages have a base insurance built into the mailing price, something like $100 for medium/large flat rate boxes so you can try to file an online claim.

It's only $50 for priority but $100 for priority express, flat rate or otherwise.

 

[sleepypiggly]

I am the sender, and the package was actually insured. I am a little surprised that USPS just left the package on his doorstop given the amount it was insured for, so perhaps that will be my argument when I file the claim.

Yea interesting, I'd say make that a focus for the claim. There's no proof that USPS actually delivered it without a signature.

USPS here in my area always requires a signature for insured packages.

 

[bentax1978]

Yea interesting, I'd say make that a focus for the claim. There's no proof that USPS actually delivered it without a signature.

USPS here in my area always requires a signature for insured packages.

That has been my experience as well. For most packages I've received that were insured for more than a couple hundred bucks, I typically have to sign for them. That said, I've had some pretty expensive stuff left on my front porch before too.

 

[bentax1978]

It's only $50 for priority but $100 for priority express, flat rate or otherwise.

The above is correct, although in this case the package was insured for $400 (at an additional cost of $5.80).

 

[sleepypiggly]

It's only $50 for priority but $100 for priority express, flat rate or otherwise.

The above is correct, although in this case the package was insured for $400 (at an additional cost of $5.80).

So I just checked my old claim, and this is what happened. If you're a top rated seller in eBay, you get a slight discount on some package rates (even more than the basic online usps.com discount) and priority mail insurance is bumped up to $100. This was a medium flat rate box. I printed out the label via eBay so I was lucky... in a sense.

My claim was actually approved in 3 days.

 

[bentax1978]

So I just checked my old claim, and this is what happened. If you're a top rated seller in eBay, you get a slight discount on some package rates (even more than the basic online usps.com discount) and priority mail insurance is bumped up to $100. This was a medium flat rate box. I printed out the label via eBay so I was lucky... in a sense.

I just filed the claim (similar looking entry page to the one above). Fingers crossed for @NayNay.

 

[dennis63]

I strongly recommend reporting this to your local police, too.

If the "porch pirates" are at work in your area, they will want to know. And you'll need a police report to get the chips back from a pawn shop if they turn up in one -- or on Craigslist or E-bay.

 

[jbutler]

I strongly recommend reporting this to your local police, too.

If the "porch pirates" are at work in your area, they will want to know. And you'll need a police report to get the chips back from a pawn shop if they turn up in one -- or on Craigslist or E-bay.

Absolutely this. I know it sounds like a longshot, but I know of at least one case of this working out for the person making the complaint.

 

[Poker Zombie]

Good luck with the recovery efforts. Our local news reported last week that people were tailing UPS trucks and just nabbing packages left on doorsteps. Never a Unibomber around when you need one...

 

[BGinGA]

Very unlikely that USPS will honor an insurance claim if the item was actually delivered intact. Home owners or renters insurance may cover theft, depending on policy specifics. A police report should be the first step.

Delivery signature is not a required USPS service offering when purchasing additional insurance, no matter what the amount. I just mailed two MFRB packages insured for $1200 each (total cost was about $30/package). Probably should have requested delivery signature, too (an additional $5-$6), but that service is only available if printing postage online, and is not available when mailing from a USPS location (which makes no sense to me, but whatever....).

If your local USPS facility/carrier is requiring a signature for insured packages, that's their call. Mine does not, at least not for deliveries to a business address. I never have anything mailed to the house, where it could sit out in the open for hours.

Side note: When my PCA chips were shipped from Finland, insurance was an issue -- since Finland Post does not offer it. Pasi managed to strong-arm his private insurance carrier to provide coverage for the package. T'was not easy, from the story I heard.

 

[links_slayer]

If your local USPS facility/carrier is requiring a signature for insured packages, that's their call. Mine does not, at least not for deliveries to a business address.

This is interesting - are you sure this is left to the local USPS discretion? When shipping I have always been told by my USPS guys that insuring anything over $200 will require signature or post office pick up if no one is available to sign (regardless of the destination). I have also had insured packages held at the post office when no one has been home to sign. I wonder if this is different because of the business address that your stuff gets shipped to?

 

[BGinGA]

I'm guessing that it is because of the business address. They won't leave packages unattended (they always bring them inside), but don't require a signature. They do provide Saturday delivery, but again, won't leave a package (or even plain mail) if they arrive after we have closed on Saturday.

Only time anyone has to sign for anything is if it's a UPS or FedEx package, or if the USPS sender purchased delivery signature service.

EDIT:
Looking at the reverse side of my Insured Mail Receipt (Domestic Only Over $500), it states in fine print that "Signature Service is included at no additional fee." I do not know for sure if Insured Mail (Domestic Only under $500) includes signature service, but I doubt it. That would explain both why the OP's package was left with no signature, and why insured packages delivered to my work address do not require a signature. I'll look and see if I have any old "Under $500" receipts laying around.

 

[abby99]

Effective May 31, 2015, a signature is required for mail that is insured for more than $500. That was quite an increase!

 

[bentax1978]

This is interesting - are you sure this is left to the local USPS discretion? When shipping I have always been told by my USPS guys that insuring anything over $200 will require signature or post office pick up if no one is available to sign (regardless of the destination). I have also had insured packages held at the post office when no one has been home to sign. I wonder if this is different because of the business address that your stuff gets shipped to?

I'm guessing that it is because of the business address. They won't leave packages unattended (they always bring them inside), but don't require a signature. They do provide Saturday delivery, but again, won't leave a package (or even plain mail) if they arrive after we have closed on Saturday.

Only time anyone has to sign for anything is if it's a UPS or FedEx package, or if the USPS sender purchased delivery signature service.

EDIT:
Looking at the reverse side of my Insured Mail Receipt (Domestic Only Over $500), it states in fine print that "Signature Service is included at no additional fee." I do not know for sure if Insured Mail (Domestic Only under $500) includes signature service, but I doubt it. That would explain both why the OP's package was left with no signature, and why insured packages delivered to my work address do not require a signature. I'll look and see if I have any old "Under $500" receipts laying around.

I think all of the above is true. Over $200 insured value, they generally require someone to be there to receive the package, but from my experience aren't required to. Above $500, they are required to get a signature.

 

[sleepypiggly]

Ah, so the USPS thresholds for requiring signature on insured packages may have changed. $200 may have been the old threshold, and now it looks to be $500.

I’m not sure if signature service for packages insured >$200 or >$500 may be required, or if it is just offered as a free option. Depending on the mailing service you use, it might be defaulted to be selected since it’s free.

Anyway, hope it works out for the OP and seller. Curious as to what USPS will do in this case.