What is your dream/ideal playing card? (2 Viewers)

[JMC9389]

I don't believe this has been discussed here. There's lots of criteria, more than would meet the eye I think. I was thinking about this and there really is so much subjectivity to it and how not one person will agree on the same exact idiosyncrasies. If you were to make your own playing card from scratch and be able to take different characteristics from all of the cards out there, what would you like to make? To make it easy, this can be broken down into categories as below, and feel free to add your own too! I'm curious to see what everyone thinks.

Card Size: Bridge or Jumbo

Card Material: Paper, Plastic PVC, Plastic Cellulose Acetate

Pip Index: Standard or Jumbo

Card Back Color: Red/Blue, Yellow/Black, Green/Orange, Purple/Green. Green/Brown, Green/Yellow, other

Card Ink: Red/Black or Four Color

Card Red Ink: Casino (darker) red or cherry red

Cream colored center on aces and number cards: Yes or No

Card Face Font (this one can get very subjective): Kem, Bicycle, Copag, Gemaco, King Australia, Cartamundi USA, Cartamundi Belgium, Fournier, Piatnik, Dal Negro, Modiano, desjgn, Zero, Faded Spade or write in your own

Card Stock Thickness: Thin, Thick, or in the middle

Card Back Stock: Glossy, Smooth, Matte, Linen, Coarse, Textured

Card Face Stock: Glossy, Smooth, Eggshell (akin to King Australia) Matte, Linen, Coarse, Textured

Card Back Design: This one is too subjective and there are too many out there. Write one in.


Below are my ideal card characteristics. Feel free to post photos that show each characteristic where applicable as I will below!

Card Size: I actually can't decide on this. Poker for NLHE only events, Bridge for playing any other game with more than two hole cards

Card Material: I'll have to go with Plastic PVC here. It will be difficult to go with cellulose acetate for a couple of my other descriptors below, will get to that. That, and the cellulose acetate decks that I own, although they feel really nice out of the box, have an approximate 25-30% warping or bowing rate after checking on them months later after getting them into play. I'll have to go with PVC for the durability factor. Knock on wood, I haven't had a PVC card chip or break on me yet.

Pip Index: Jumbo

Card Back Color: Can't beat the classic red/blue, but I'll throw an interesting one out there....orange/black or pink/black

Card Ink: Red/black

Card Red Ink: Casino red



Cream color card centers: Yes

Card Face Font: Cartamundi Belgium. It's the nuts to me, thought I know some aren't fans.

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• JMC9389
• Sep 25, 2020

Card Stock Thickness: Somewhere in the middle, but if push comes to shove, I like a thicker stock rather than thinner.

Card Back Stock: Textured back a la Dal Negro Virgolone and desjgn Grand Victorian

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Card Front Stock: Give me the eggshell soft as a baby's bottom card stock of the King Australia cards here.

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• JMC9389
• Sep 2, 2020

10 of hearts close up, King Australia Prestige

• JMC9389
• Sep 2, 2020

Card Back Design: Give me the desjgn Grand Victorian artwork here

 

[surfik]

Perfect cards for me are like pic below.

Trick is WPT version of KEM never been made in Jumbo index. So the pic you can find on some web shops or eBay is misleding as hell.
I still have this cards in Standard index in blue/red and black/silver options. Black/silver is my favorite.

To cut it short:
Poker size for 6+ seats tables, bridge size for 2-6 seats,
Jumbo index always (exception for heads up),
Cellulose acetate,
Bright red, preferably old KEM colors,
Back design.. Simpler the better,
Index font.. KEM or Cartamundi

Never played Faded Spade but I like design

 

[jr8719]

Great thread idea!

Mine would be poker-sized, using the exact same stock of material as the Modiano Platinums, with the following face designs from Fournier and, perhaps controversially, the traditional diamondback design from Bee.

 

[upNdown]

I would love it if somebody could figure out how to make a card with jumbo indexes, but with full art on the face of the card (not restricted to the small, centered box)

Otherwise, I want casino KEMS that don’t warp or bow, bridge jumbo. Fill in the rest of the details for yourself and then ship them to me (non red/blue backs are a plus, but whatever.)

 

[CdnBeerLover]

I'll play...

Card Size: Poker

Card Material: Plastic PVC (I've tried both Kem and Modiano Acetate, and the difference is not worth the cost)

Pip Index: Jumbo

Card Back Color: Red/Blue, Yellow/Black

Card Ink: Red/Black

Card Red Ink: cherry red

Cream colored center on aces and number cards: Oh hell yeah.

Card Face Font (this one can get very subjective): Fournier 2818

Card Stock Thickness: Thick

Card Back Stock: Textured

Card Face Stock: Smooth

Card Back Design: Fournier 2818 WSOP Breakout

Favourite cards by a country mile are the Fournier 2818 WSOP Breakout cards with Desjgn Classic Victorian v2 a close second. If you combined the Fournier cards with the durability of the Desjgn CV v2 cards, you'd have my perfect card.

 

[Jake14mw]

Good thread. My answers here. https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...s-are-most-important-to-you-pet-peeves.59169/

I am more of a card guy than chip guy.

 

[Jake14mw]

I don't believe this has been discussed here. There's lots of criteria, more than would meet the eye I think. I was thinking about this and there really is so much subjectivity to it and how not one person will agree on the same exact idiosyncrasies. If you were to make your own playing card from scratch and be able to take different characteristics from all of the cards out there, what would you like to make? To make it easy, this can be broken down into categories as below, and feel free to add your own too! I'm curious to see what everyone thinks.

Card Size: Bridge or Jumbo

Card Material: Paper, Plastic PVC, Plastic Cellulose Acetate

Pip Index: Standard or Jumbo

Card Back Color: Red/Blue, Yellow/Black, Green/Orange, Purple/Green. Green/Brown, Green/Yellow, other

Card Ink: Red/Black or Four Color

Card Red Ink: Casino (darker) red or cherry red

Cream colored center on aces and number cards: Yes or No

Card Face Font (this one can get very subjective): Kem, Bicycle, Copag, Gemaco, King Australia, Cartamundi USA, Cartamundi Belgium, Fournier, Piatnik, Dal Negro, Modiano, desjgn, Zero, Faded Spade or write in your own

Card Stock Thickness: Thin, Thick, or in the middle

Card Back Stock: Glossy, Smooth, Matte, Linen, Coarse, Textured

Card Face Stock: Glossy, Smooth, Eggshell (akin to King Australia) Matte, Linen, Coarse, Textured

Card Back Design: This one is too subjective and there are too many out there. Write one in.


Below are my ideal card characteristics. Feel free to post photos that show each characteristic where applicable as I will below!

Card Size: I actually can't decide on this. Poker for NLHE only events, Bridge for playing any other game with more than two hole cards

Card Material: I'll have to go with Plastic PVC here. It will be difficult to go with cellulose acetate for a couple of my other descriptors below, will get to that. That, and the cellulose acetate decks that I own, although they feel really nice out of the box, have an approximate 25-30% warping or bowing rate after checking on them months later after getting them into play. I'll have to go with PVC for the durability factor. Knock on wood, I haven't had a PVC card chip or break on me yet.

Pip Index: Jumbo

Card Back Color: Can't beat the classic red/blue, but I'll throw an interesting one out there....orange/black or pink/black

Card Ink: Red/black

Card Red Ink: Casino red



Cream color card centers: Yes

Card Face Font: Cartamundi Belgium. It's the nuts to me, thought I know some aren't fans.

20200913_193436.jpg

• JMC9389
• Sep 25, 2020

Card Stock Thickness: Somewhere in the middle, but if push comes to shove, I like a thicker stock rather than thinner.

Card Back Stock: Textured back a la Dal Negro Virgolone and desjgn Grand Victorian

View media item 19035
Card Front Stock: Give me the eggshell soft as a baby's bottom card stock of the King Australia cards here.

20200612_150916.jpg

• JMC9389
• Sep 2, 2020

10 of hearts close up, King Australia Prestige

• JMC9389
• Sep 2, 2020

Card Back Design: Give me the desjgn Grand Victorian artwork here

How do you like those NTP cards? I love that color!

 

[DZPoker]

The marked deck I can actually win with??

 

[JMC9389]

How do you like those NTP cards? I love that color!

I really like them. They're a Dal Negro offshoot but the card stock isn't at all alike from the other Dal Negro offerings in the Virgolone (textured) and Poker Monkey (non textured). The Dal Negro's are very stiff in comparison. The NTP's are much more flexible and dealer friendly. The reds ink is security ink, so a little darker than other cards, but I like that. FWIW, I am eager to hear @Dix weigh in on this, but I believe the same exact card stock is used for the NTP Blackjack cards as for the Zero Rizello e Romagnoli cards.

 

[JoeBGo]

Bridge with Blackjack pip for the win!

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

I'll play...

Card Size: Poker

Card Material: Plastic PVC (I've tried both Kem and Modiano Acetate, and the difference is not worth the cost)

Pip Index: Jumbo

Card Back Color: Red/Blue, Yellow/Black

Card Ink: Red/Black

Card Red Ink: cherry red

Cream colored center on aces and number cards: Oh hell yeah.

Card Face Font (this one can get very subjective): Fournier 2818

Card Stock Thickness: Thick

Card Back Stock: Textured

Card Face Stock: Smooth

Card Back Design: Fournier 2818 WSOP Breakout

Favourite cards by a country mile are the Fournier 2818 WSOP Breakout cards with Desjgn Classic Victorian v2 a close second. If you combined the Fournier cards with the durability of the Desjgn CV v2 cards, you'd have my perfect card.

Bridge size, Jumbo, Modiano. I suspect the back looks something like this

 

[Jake14mw]

Bridge size, Jumbo, Modiano. I suspect the back looks something like this

I'm still amazed at that. It's one thing to find cards that match your name. It's another that they are GREAT cards.

 

[Forty4]

I would like four corners but one angle has regular and the opposite has jumbo. Oddly the center doesn’t make a difference to me. Prefer bridge but the shuffletech takes poker so again don’t care. Like four color but can live with two. Backs just can’t be close in color.

 

[tabletalker7]

These are my ideal playing card

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• tabletalker7
• Apr 30, 2020
• 1

Fournier WSOP

 

[Dix]

I really like them. They're a Dal Negro offshoot but the card stock isn't at all alike from the other Dal Negro offerings in the Virgolone (textured) and Poker Monkey (non textured). The Dal Negro's are very stiff in comparison. The NTP's are much more flexible and dealer friendly. The reds ink is security ink, so a little darker than other cards, but I like that. FWIW, I am eager to hear @Dix weigh in on this, but I believe the same exact card stock is used for the NTP Blackjack cards as for the Zero Rizello e Romagnoli cards.

Difference in card stock/flex/finish isn't worth writing home about... blindfolded, you can't tell 'em apart.

DN TxPoker = Bright Red / others = Security Red

PIP SIZE:
DN TxPoker = Lg Blackjack/Sm Jumbo
NTP = True Jumbo
ZERO = HUGE

My dream cards: Cartamundi "Casino Branded". Unfortunately not offered to the general public. & since we're dreaming, use a bright red on 'em.

Material: Cellulose-Acetate (see below)
Finish: Linen/Matte
Flex: The softer the better
Thickness: See "Flex" (& hence, PVC need not apply)
Pips: Jumbo (No Italian Fat Spade)
Font: Bold, Sans Serif (ala: Faded Spade)
Face Colors: Traditional (bright)Red/Black
Back Colors: Something OTHER than Red/Blue (Tired of it/over it/bored with it.... pick a reason.... how about blue & gold?)
Back Design: Full Bleed
Size: Poker (Except for playing Omaha/Stud)

 

[Thomacetti]

Difference in card stock/flex/finish isn't worth writing home about... blindfolded, you can't tell 'em apart.

DN TxPoker = Bright Red / others = Security Red

PIP SIZE:
DN TxPoker = Lg Blackjack/Sm Jumbo
NTP = True Jumbo
ZERO = HUGE

My dream cards: Cartamundi "Casino Branded". Unfortunately not offered to the general public. & since we're dreaming, use a bright red on 'em.

Material: Cellulose-Acetate
Finish: Linen/Matte
Flex: The softer the better
Thickness: See "Flex"
Pips: Jumbo (No Italian Fat Spade)
Font: Bold, Sans Serif
Face Colors: Traditional Red/Black
Back Colors: Something OTHER than Red/Blue
Back Design: Full Bleed
Size: Poker (Exc: Bridge for playing Omaha/Stud)

The new batch will reach you anytime soon...i'm sure you will love the Nederpoker cards
Looking forward what the lab results will say...

And...a new version of the Copag cards (no more super slippery decks)

 

[TheWhat]

Faded Spade 2.0 would be perfect for me, if they weren't so damn slippery.

Also, why are the premiere cards so hard to track down?

 

[Dix]

And...a new version of the Copag cards (no more super slippery decks)

A Copag NOT made in Brazil..... Got some of these on the way too.

 

[surfik]

What? Made by who where... Fournier?

A Copag NOT made in Brazil..... Got some of these on the way too.

T

 

[Silverpie]

I don't believe this has been discussed here. There's lots of criteria, more than would meet the eye I think. I was thinking about this and there really is so much subjectivity to it and how not one person will agree on the same exact idiosyncrasies. If you were to make your own playing card from scratch and be able to take different characteristics from all of the cards out there, what would you like to make? To make it easy, this can be broken down into categories as below, and feel free to add your own too! I'm curious to see what everyone thinks.

Just taking the few I know enough to care about:

Card Material: Plastic

Card Size: Bridge

Pip Index: Standard, Blackjack is also ok

Card Back Color: Purple/Green

Card Ink: Four Color (unless it’s for a game where color per se matters, like Solitaire or Canasta)

Card Red Ink: Cherry red

Cream colored center on aces and number cards: No

Card Face Font: Maverick (a bold variant of classic)

 

[CdnBeerLover]

What? Made by who where... Fournier?

T

Cartamundi acquired a significant share of Copag in 2005 and USPCC in December 2019. According to this
https://cartamundi.com/en/press/car...-states-playing-card-company-uspc-aquisition/

" Manufacturing facilities are located in Japan, India, Poland, Germany, France, Belgium, the United Kingdom, Ireland, United States of America and Brazil. ".

I'd say you'd have to look at the packaging to see if there's a "Cards made in xxxx" mark on them. The address in the picture is for their headquarters, according to https://cartamundi.com/en/our-locations/ .

 

[surfik]

Cartamundi acquired Copag in 2005 and USPCC in December 2019. According to this
https://cartamundi.com/en/press/car...-states-playing-card-company-uspc-aquisition/

" Manufacturing facilities are located in Japan, India, Poland, Germany, France, Belgium, the United Kingdom, Ireland, United States of America and Brazil. ".

I'd say you'd have to look at the packaging to see if there's a "Cards made in xxxx" mark on them. The address in the picture is for their headquarters, according to https://cartamundi.com/en/our-locations/ .

I am aware of all above and it is great to see Bicycles Prestige printed in Spain in Fourniers factory using Fourniers stock and technology. Mediocre Bicycle Prestige are now very decent cards.

However I never heard of Copags being made outside Brasil. I am wondering who and where?

 

[Thomacetti]

I am aware of all above and it is great to see Bicycles Prestige printed in Spain in Fourniers factory using Fourniers stock and technology. Mediocre Bicycle Prestige are now very decent cards.

However I never heard of Copags being made outside Brasil. I am wondering who and where?

check my post a few post above yours

here

 

[CdnBeerLover]

check my post a few post above yours

here

D'oh! I'm an idiot an missed the "Made in Belgium" picture.

 

[surfik]

check my post a few post above yours

here

Definitely would like to try them.... I just hope they make 2 index version... Also not a big fan of Copag and Fournier font

 

[Thomacetti]

yes, the have regular & jumbo index too

 

[JMC9389]

yes, the have regular & jumbo index too

Going to need a link my friend!

 

[Irish]

Here's mine:

Card Size: Regular
Card Material: Plastic Cellulose Acetate
Pip Index: Jumbo
Card Back Color: Red/Blue and Green/Brown
Card Ink: Red/Black
Card Red Ink: Security (darker) red
Cream colored center on aces and number cards: Hellz Yes
Card Face Font Kem (it's not even close Kems are beautiful)
Card Stock Thickness: Thick
Card Back Stock: Linen
Card Face Stock: Linen
Card Back Design: Modiano Cristallo Acetate >>>>>>>> Guild > Kem Arrow > Fournier 2800

 

[Thomacetti]

Going to need a link my friend!

Std index red here
Std index blue here

Jumbo index red here
Jumbo index blue here

4 corners jumbo red here
4 corners jumbo blue here

If we combine orders then they get cheaper (6 deck = -0.5 EUR per deck)

 

[QuailValley]

Right now my favorite hands down are the Desjgn Bridge size, Jumbo Index, 4 Color Suit.

They handle and play great. Perfect visibility and a great design overall. Just wish there were more back color options.