1/2 PLO OOP (1 Viewer)

[trever]

Playing online 1/2 PLO 4-handed:

I (190) raise to $7 UTG with
Button (217) calls
SB (602) calls
BB (266) reraises to $35

I call
Button folds
SB Calls

SB is a good (not great) player who is mostly here to play vs. the BB. Doesn't like playing this short-handed.
BB is a decent, semi-aggro player with a terrible habit of paying off on the river
I am a semi-decent possibly tilted player who is having a very bad day (outside of poker)

Thoughts so far?

Pot is $112
Flop is

SB checks.
BB bets $60 - edited to include the BB action -
What next?

 

[DrStrange]

We are playing four handed. I would have doubts about the pre-flop raise at a full table but here is seems fine. Hero's call of the raise is fine - I wouldn't 4-bet because Hero's jack high just can't be best and one more bet puts hero with an SPR < 1.

What next? Hero should wait for the BB to act of course.

DrStrange

 

[derekdd23]

If anyone check raises you have to fold, if anyone check calls your probably not happy either. Im checking to get a free card. That flop should hit at least on of their ranges pretty hard and your hand probably is just a flush(Royal) draw at the moment.

 

[kirchhausen]

if you get a free card check as you close the action. if bet to you might as well get it all in on that flop.

 

[trever]

OP edited to include the BB action. BB bets $60

 

[kirchhausen]

ship it you likely are racing with 9 flush outs and 3 k outs

 

[DrStrange]

Pot is $112 + 60 + 60 = $232 if hero calls. A jam would be for $95 - so Hero doesn't have much fold equity. On the other hand if Hero takes a call / call line he will be all in anyway.

There is no room for a fancy play. The SPR is less than 2 and Hero's seconds best draws are likely good in a short handed game. Maybe villain has such a bad hand he folds to the tiny bet - so lets jam it in and pray most of our outs are live. (Hero could be drawing dead nearly dead - two outs to a chopped broadway and an unlikely runner-runner full house.)

DrStrange

 

[Ben]

Jam it in to force out SB and pray. Villain almost always has either a set or broadway IMO, so we're not doing great, but we really can't fold at this point.

 

[derekdd23]

Maybe i'm just a NIT but i fold here more often than not. Judging by the descriptions of the players I can find better spots than what amounts to be a flush draw that might not even be live.

If I have a read that they are both weak i would RePot here though.

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

Jam if you feel like gambling, but keep in mind there is a small chance SB might call with the king high flush draw, in which case you are drawing super thin. If you don't feel like gambling, fold. I don't think BB is ever folding, unless he has air, but he probably doesn't have air too often in this scenario. I'd feel much better if we had the king of hearts instead of the jack though.

Also, you are in position. Or were you trying to type oops and forgot the "s"

 

[trever]

Hands like this have been a bit of a theme lately - raise in early position, get lots of action and then flop a decent, but potentially worthless draw and get stuck with a "stacks" decision where I'm hoping that I'm flipping. Too bad (for conversation purposes) stacks weren't deeper, as I think it would change things considerably.

My thinking in this hand:

SB's range is wide open - anything from air (strong hand that missed) to a slow-played nuts. He's not folding if he's ahead of me, and probably not calling if he's behind (whether I raise or not). If there are hands in his range that call behind but fold to a raise (whatever they are?), I probably want him calling rather than folding.

I don't think I have any fold equity vs the BB unless he was on an almost pure bluff. If he's drawing too, he might check a blank turn and I'd love to see a free card before throwing in my last $98.
So, Hero ignores everyone's advice and calls
SB folds.
And then the rest of the hand plays itself:

Flop was
Turn card is the
BB shoves
I cringe and call.
River is the

BB had
Hero had

I win with 10's and Aces. PLO is weird.

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

I need to move to Cincinnati lol

 

[jbutler]

I need to move to Cincinnati lol

sounds like it's pretty sweet, but we're a little late for the really good times.