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I recently bought 1700 unicorn plastics for very cheap. As I see no realistic future where I could make a large MTT set with clays, I'm considering doing it now, with these. Anybody want to help with a breakdown?

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Some items of note:
- I'll probably go T25 base, as I have greens and grays available
- I'm flexible on starting stack and don't really know what's best
- The tournaments I played before finding this site were very unstructured, so be gentle
- I currently have five colors (green, gray, purple, orange, and pink) and have easy access to a sixth (white), and possibly a seventh (yellow)
- I have at least 300 of each color, which I'd hope is enough to cover even the heavy denoms
- I'd like to keep 1000 chips
- I'd like to be able to cover as many as 40 players
- Rebuys/add-ons: I don't know. What's best?

Thanks in advance!
 
To run up to 40 people with T10k starting stacks with no rebuys you will need at minimum:

T25 - 320 (typically green)
T100 - 320 (typically black/gray)
T500 - 180 (typically purple)
T1000 - 300 (typically orange or yellow)
T5000 - 40 (varies)

Starting stacks of 8/8/4/7. Extra T500, T1000, and T5000 for chip ups are included in the numbers.

If you want to do rebuys, then you need 60-80 more T5000 chips.
 
From the pictures, the gray and purple look pretty close in color. That could be a bit of an issue.
 
Legend5555 said:
To run up to 40 people with T10k starting stacks with no rebuys you will need at minimum:

T25 - 320 (typically green)
T100 - 320 (typically black/gray)
T500 - 180 (typically purple)
T1000 - 300 (typically orange or yellow)
T5000 - 40 (varies)

Starting stacks of 8/8/4/7. Extra T500, T1000, and T5000 for chip ups are included in the numbers.

If you want to do rebuys, then you need 60-80 more T5000 chips.
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Thanks! More than I expected. It really can't be done with 1k chips? How'd you come up with these numbers?
 
Okay, fair. I guess a better question is this: What's the most efficient way I can use these chips? I'd like to keep up to 1000, but can see only taking 800 if the remainder wouldn't help much. I'd like to be able to stretch to as many people as possible, but even getting 20 people together would be a rarity.
 
Davism72 said:
Thanks! More than I expected. It really can't be done with 1k chips? How'd you come up with these numbers?
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8/8/4/7 is the base minimum I would recommend. You can be a little crazy and go 8/8/4/2/1, but I REALLY don't recommend it as it will cause issues with making change.
 
You can instead go T100 base, 20k starting stacks with no rebuys. It will save a few chips.

T100 - 400 (typically black/gray)
T500 - 160 (typically purple)
T1000 - 300 (typically orange or yellow)
T5000 - 120 (varies)

Starting stacks of 10/4/7/2. You would need an extra 120-160 T5000 if you do rebuys. And then you might want some 25k chips as well, probably no more than 20.
 
I'd suggest the following 1000 chip breakdown for a T10k tournament.

250 - T25 (green)
250 - T100 (purple)
150 - T500 (pink)
250 - T1000 (yellow)
100 - T5000 (orange)

12 / 12 / 5 / 6 for 20 players.
8 / 8 / 4 / 7 for 30 players.

Use T5000 for all rebuys.
 
I just posted this today in another thread. You could use it to extrapolate what you might need for a larger field. Yellow highlighted denominations are need for color ups. The most important thing to keep in mind is that you will need enough 1k and 5k chips to cover the total chips that started the tournament. As those are typically the only chips left in play at the end.

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A couple of options that I see, if you want to stretch to 40 players:

—less than 10k starting stacks. Maybe 7,500 or 8k. Even 5k if you make the rounds long.

—Different breakdown for starting stacks. As long as the tables are pretty balanced with smaller denoms, the stacks are different any way after the first hand.

—you can color up the 25s with mostly 500s. Have the big stack buy them up, then the bank buys them from the big stack.
 
For 40 person, T5 base, T2000 starting stack, with no rebuys, the minimum would be something like:

T5 - 400
T25 - 400 or (240)
T100 - 280 or (320) + color up extra
T500 - 80 + color up extra
T1000 - 40
 
i don't see how you could do 40 players with only 300 of your starting denoms. If you limit your field to 36 (4 tables of 9), you could do it.

My local casino often gives out only 2 T500's in the tourney stacks, and it works fine.

You could start blinds at 25/25, and have 8/8/2/3 stacks:
T25 x 288
T100 x 288
T500 x 72
T1000 x 200 (108 starting plus plenty for color ups and rebuys)
T5000 x 40

Just an idea. I'm not sure how this would play in later stages. There might not be enough T1000's on the table.

But you're the one who wants to run a 40-player tournament with 1000 chips. :D
 
So from the picture it looks like you have
298-green, 320-gray, 300- orange, 380ish pink, and 400-ish purple.

So at 8 greens per player, I think you could do 36 players.

EDIT, basically what @Beakertwang said above.
 
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CdnBeerLover said:
I'd suggest the following 1000 chip breakdown for a T10k tournament.

250 - T25 (green)
250 - T100 (purple)
150 - T500 (pink)
250 - T1000 (yellow)
100 - T5000 (orange)

12 / 12 / 5 / 6 for 20 players.
8 / 8 / 4 / 7 for 30 players.

Use T5000 for all rebuys.
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IMHO
I’d tweak this a little, as you have 10 T25 chips you’d never use, and 30-50 T500’s that probably wouldn’t get used. Probably an extra barrel or two of T5000’s as well, depends on rebuys maybe.

20 people at T10000 is total starting bank of 200,000
30 is 300,000.
You have 500,000 in T5000’s alone, and another 250,000 in T1000’s. That’s 750,000 to cover a 300,000 total starting tourney. I don’t know if you get 30 rebuys in a T10,000 tourney, but maybe.

For either 12/12/5/6 (20) or 8/8/4/7 (30) I’d look at

240 T25 (only need starting stacks)
300 T100 (60 extra to colorup the T25)
120 T500 (only need starting stacks)
300 T1000 (210 for starting 30, plus 90 to colorup all denoms below this)
40 T5000 (for color ups and rebuys, allows 20 rebuys)
If you have the opportunity you might consider 5 T25000 and only 35 T5000’s to help clean up the endgame, but it’s usually over before you can get them in play.

This breakdown leaves only T1000 and T5000 on the table in the later rounds. No room for spares either. It always seems light on T5000’s, but really a lot of them is overkill and could be used more efficiently in other denoms
 
To follow up on the 36 player set, think if you wanted to keep 1100 chips you can do it.

36 * 8/8/4/7 is 972 chips. Add 72 T5000 for 36 rebuys, and 22 for color ups on the T25/T100/T500 chips, so that would be keeping 1066, Keep extras to make 1100. But assuming you are going green/gray/purple/orange/pink for colors. This leaves no green, or gray available for resale. But you could sell off about 240 purple, 40 Orange, and 280 Pink. I am not sure how useable of a set that would be for someone else.

If you want to keep 1000, @CdnBeerLover 's suggestion above for a 20-30 player from 1000 chips works. (Except there are no Yellow chips ;) )
 

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