2/5/10 PLO hand short-handed (1 Viewer)

[Anthony Martino]

Playing 5 handed 2/5 PLO with a $10 rock


SB: posted $10 rock, has $2,300 (tired fish/station)
Hero in BB: $1,700
UTG: $2,100 (station)
CO: $2,800 (seems TAG)
Button: $200 (minbuyer, new to table)

Hero calls $10 with

UTG calls $10

CO raises to $50

Button and SB fold

Hero calls, UTG calls


Flop

Hero first to act and....?

 

[SpaceMonkey420]

I have played PLO for a living. I check then call most bets here if I’m the hero. Control pot size. See what the turn brings (hopefully a rainbow deuce)

Personally I fold pre flop but I’m not a fish.

 

[mipevi]

Not the flop hero was looking for. Check hoping for a cheap showdown.

 

[Anthony Martino]

Not the flop hero was looking for. Check hoping for a cheap showdown.

Hero flopped a straight fwiw

 

[mipevi]

Yes, but not the nut straight. No real draw either, and that is a wet flop. Hero has QQ (with one of them a club) as future blockers, but hard to utilize well oop with a station in the hand.

 

[kmccormick100]

Folding pre to the $50, I may Check call one bet on the flop hoping to get to showdown. I can’t picture many runouts we like against literally any future bets

 

[RocAFella1]

Folding pre to the $50, I may Check call one bet on the flop hoping to get to showdown. I can’t picture many runouts we like against literally any future bets

Is FOLDPRE available as a license plate in Florida?

 

[Perthmike]

I also fold pre.

But if I'm in the hand I'd check call. As others have stated, I don't really like a flop lead with the bottom end of a straight and no redraws.

 

[Anthony Martino]

Playing 5 handed 2/5 PLO with a $10 rock


SB: posted $10 rock, has $2,300 (tired fish/station)
Hero in BB: $1,700
UTG: $2,100 (station)
CO: $2,800 (seems TAG)
Button: $200 (minbuyer, new to table)

Hero calls $10 with

UTG calls $10

CO raises to $50

Button and SB fold

Hero calls, UTG calls


Flop

Hero first to act and....?

Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $100

Action on Hero?

 

[mipevi]

Call and wink at UTG.

 

[SpaceMonkey420]

It’s ok to fold here ESP with 2 additional players. Classic trap hand only your the trap.

Ps. Fold preflop. Much easier.

 

[SpaceMonkey420]

Fold!!

 

[detroitdad]

Fold!!

fold pre
fold to the 50
fold now

shifty hand with shitty re draws

 

[Anthony Martino]

Playing 5 handed 2/5 PLO with a $10 rock


SB: posted $10 rock, has $2,300 (tired fish/station)
Hero in BB: $1,700
UTG: $2,100 (station)
CO: $2,800 (seems TAG)
Button: $200 (minbuyer, new to table)

Hero calls $10 with

UTG calls $10

CO raises to $50

Button and SB fold

Hero calls, UTG calls


Flop

Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $125

Corrected above, Villain bet $125 not $100

Hero checkraises pot to $470

Villain thinks for a bit and calls

Turn

Action on Hero.......?

 

[mipevi]

Well, I guess we have the blockers and looks like we got rid of the station. Pot/fold turn.

I didn't touch preflop, maybe I should. Calling $10 seems absolutely fine this deep with the realization that while UTG may be a station, hero's main target is the station he has position on. After it gets raised and the main target folds, the situation is no longer as profitable (if at all). Had SB called, I would stay in the hand, but as it unfolded I'd like hero's hand to have a little more playability to continue oop.

 

[Rhodeman77]

I hate this hand because it can’t flop many nut hands and Hero is OOP. The only flop you love is Q57r. I call the $10 and fold to the raise as well.

as played I most likely check call the flop and check fold the turn when a second straight now beats us as well. Which was an obvious OESD on the flop.

 

[Hornet]

I hate this spot. I don’t mind taking a flop when you are super deep with some bad players, but the flop illustrates why your hand is mediocre at best.

You may have been ahead on the flop, but the turn brings additional straight possibilities. You have blockers, sure, but I don’t want to go broke with blockers.

As played, I think you have to continue with your line and pot the turn, and fold if villain raises your bet.

 

[Anthony Martino]

Playing 5 handed 2/5 PLO with a $10 rock


SB: posted $10 rock, has $2,300 (tired fish/station)
Hero in BB: $1,700
UTG: $2,100 (station)
CO: $2,800 (seems TAG)
Button: $200 (minbuyer, new to table)

Hero calls $10 with

UTG calls $10

CO raises to $50

Button and SB fold

Hero calls, UTG calls


Flop

We check and Villain bet $125

Hero checkraises pot to $470

Villain thinks for a bit and calls

Turn

Action on Hero

Hero figures at this point he needs to continue his betting line. Villain most likely had a flush draw on the flop. In the off-chance he has xxJ8 we have half the queens in the deck in our hand, so repping the nut draw here is possible

Note that when we pot here we can't really fold any rivers because we have about $250 left after a pot sized bet on the turn

Hero bets pot, which was $1,110

Villain thinks forever, and just calls??? Thinking maybe he picked up two pair on the turn to go with the nut flush draw?

River is

Phew, Hero dodged the club, river card looks good. Hero puts in his last $250 and Villain looks a bit confused (he will later say he didn't realize I had additional money behind going to the river, and was wondering where the extra $200 came from)

He makes the call, Hero announces he has a straight and cards are flipped. What is Villains hand?

 

[Hornet]

I’ll go with ...

 

[mipevi]

Hoping for KKxx or TTxx with clubs... ?

 

[Anthony Martino]

Hero figures at this point he needs to continue his betting line. Villain most likely had a flush draw on the flop. In the off-chance he has xxJ8 we have half the queens in the deck in our hand, so repping the nut draw here is possible

Note that when we pot here we can't really fold any rivers because we have about $250 left after a pot sized bet on the turn

Hero bets pot, which was $1,110

Villain thinks forever, and just calls??? Thinking maybe he picked up two pair on the turn to go with the nut flush draw?

River is

Phew, Hero dodged the club, river card looks good. Hero puts in his last $250 and Villain looks a bit confused (he will later say he didn't realize I had additional money behind going to the river, and was wondering where the extra $200 came from)

He makes the call, Hero announces he has a straight and cards are flipped. What is Villains hand?

Villain tables and scoops

The lessons to be learned are:

1. Don't limp shitty hands preflop, even short-standed

2. Don't call raises with shitty hands preflop, even short-handed

3. Don't limp and call raises preflop OOP with shitty hands

I do think given the way the hand played out on the flop and turn, where I should be ahead of his raising range on the flop and have blockers to the nuts on the turn (plus the amount of thinking he did on both streets just seemed like a set, flush draw or flush draw with 2 pr or straight draw) that my plays post-flop weren't 100% terrible.

Preflop I feel was my biggest mistake, getting involved at all

 

[Rhodeman77]

When I flop the second straight with no real redraw I take 1 of 2 lines depending on villains/position.

Sometimes I will check raise (oop) or raise/fold (in position) if bet into. This line is usually cheaper than calling multiple streets to find out if your hand is best. Sometimes you get someone that flopped the same hand to fold and scoop or get an aggressive player with a set that was trying to rep the straight to fold their equity.

The more common line I take is to check call the flop and check fold the turn If they bet again.Many times I will even check fold if there is a bet and a call or more since there are so few good turn cards anyways.