200NL Hand From Tonight (1 Viewer)

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Earlier this evening I was playing $1/$2 NLHE on Bovada and something happened that I can't seem to wrap my head around. Here's a little bit of backstory:

It is folded around to me and I'm on the button and raise to $6 with :as::ad:. Villain in the SB (who is a SUPER maniac and has shown that he's willing to bluff off his whole stack) calls the $5 and the BB folds. $13 in the pot.

Flop comes :8s::ts::4c: and I bet $9. Villain calls bringing the pot to $31.

The turn is :th: which is not a good card in most instances, but I also know that Villain knows that. I bet $22 and Villain snap raises to $50 and I call. This is where I noticed that Villain is doing what he has done in the past. If he's snap raising or snap calling then he's usually weak. When he has a hand he actually takes a few seconds to bet or raise. Pot is now $131.

River is :kc: and Villain instantly moves in. I have ~$130 left and the pot is effectively $260. Now I thought it was possible that he could have a T in his hand, but I went back to the original read of his snap decisions and called and Villain shows :ks::jd: and I double through.

Now Villain starts spewing off in the chat box, but one thing really stuck with me. He said, "that was a really bad call because you had the A of spades."

I know that this is a pretty clear-cut case of overplaying aces, but I felt like I had a good read on Villain so I went with it, but why does calling with the :as: make this a worse call than usual? I've been mulling it over and just can't seem to come up with a logical answer.

Any thoughts?
 
I guess he ment that you knew he wasn't bluffing with the nut flush draw and therefore had less bluffs in his range. Don't make too much sense anyway though if he was playing like a maniac.

This is it.
 
I don't think you overplayed your hand. You made a table observation and trusted (correctly) in your instincts.

Bovada is loaded with this type of player. Throws a bluff at anything that moves and telecasts it from a mile away. Then goes on a tirade when you have the audacity to catch him bluffing.
 
LOL. Maniac villain bluffs with air and gets there on river, value-shoves but gets called by better, then somehow you're supposed to fold? WTF??? :eek:
 
I don't think you overplayed your hand. You made a table observation and trusted (correctly) in your instincts.

Bovada is loaded with this type of player. Throws a bluff at anything that moves and telecasts it from a mile away. Then goes on a tirade when you have the audacity to catch him bluffing.

The reason I thought I overplayed the hand is because Villain put me to a decision for essentially 100BBs in one hand and I called it off, but you're absolutely right. There are a ton of players like this at Bovada. I think 200NL is softer than 50 or 100NL.
 
The reason I thought I overplayed the hand is because Villain put me to a decision for essentially 100BBs in one hand and I called it off, but you're absolutely right. There are a ton of players like this at Bovada. I think 200NL is softer than 50 or 100NL.

Not to thread jack... but are you able to easily fund and withdraw from your account? I haven't played online since black friday. PM me if you would rather.
 
Not to thread jack... but are you able to easily fund and withdraw from your account? I haven't played online since black friday. PM me if you would rather.

I had lunch today with my buddy who is a pro and has quite a bit on bovada playing from MA. He says he can get 3k out at a time, but it's slow. Basically a constant drip. There's a wire transfer option but his situation was a little more complicated. I think your mileage may vary depending on circumstances. His is probably worst case scenario for a legit guy just trying to withdraw.
 
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Bovada now offers a payout option called Visa Fast Funds where they do a reverse transaction on your debit card and send the money directly to your account. No checks. No foreign currency issues. I requested a cashout last night and it was approved by this morning. I will update when the money posts in my account.
 
Sounds like Bovada is actually pretty reliable then. I suspect my buddy's issues come from having 6 digits+ in his account.
 
Earlier this evening I was playing $1/$2 NLHE on Bovada and something happened that I can't seem to wrap my head around. Here's a little bit of backstory:

It is folded around to me and I'm on the button and raise to $6 with :as::ad:. Villain in the SB (who is a SUPER maniac and has shown that he's willing to bluff off his whole stack) calls the $5 and the BB folds. $13 in the pot.

Flop comes :8s::ts::4c: and I bet $9. Villain calls bringing the pot to $31.

The turn is :th: which is not a good card in most instances, but I also know that Villain knows that. I bet $22 and Villain snap raises to $50 and I call. This is where I noticed that Villain is doing what he has done in the past. If he's snap raising or snap calling then he's usually weak. When he has a hand he actually takes a few seconds to bet or raise. Pot is now $131.


If Villian is trying to rep the 10 here, he's not doing a great job of it. He hasn't bet enough to price you out of implied odds should you have a flush/straight draw type hand. Looks like a typical setup to try and take control of the hand with position to make you check behind on the river to him.

River is :kc: and Villain instantly moves in. I have ~$130 left and the pot is effectively $260. Now I thought it was possible that he could have a T in his hand, but I went back to the original read of his snap decisions and called and Villain shows :ks::jd: and I double through.

Now Villain starts spewing off in the chat box, but one thing really stuck with me. He said, "that was a really bad call because you had the A of spades."

I know that this is a pretty clear-cut case of overplaying aces, but I felt like I had a good read on Villain so I went with it, but why does calling with the :as: make this a worse call than usual? I've been mulling it over and just can't seem to come up with a logical answer.

Any thoughts?

Because he's supposed to be less likely to be bluffing you when he can't have the :as: Bottom line is this guy is a whiney idiot who thinks he's a better player than he really is and can't get past his own ego. See it all the time. If he's any so good he'd realize he should say "nice hand" and move on to the next. You don't berate players you feel are profit centers for yourself, you make them feel welcome and entertain them to keep them playing with you.

Now, a player like him, you don't try to entertain him to profit. You get him tilted so he spews in a rage because he feels he's better than you and "deserves" to win.
 
You made the good call and won the hand
So you made the good move...
As simple as that
 
If Villian is trying to rep the 10 here, he's not doing a great job of it. He hasn't bet enough to price you out of implied odds should you have a flush/straight draw type hand. Looks like a typical setup to try and take control of the hand with position to make you check behind on the river to him.



Because he's supposed to be less likely to be bluffing you when he can't have the :as: Bottom line is this guy is a whiney idiot who thinks he's a better player than he really is and can't get past his own ego. See it all the time. If he's any so good he'd realize he should say "nice hand" and move on to the next. You don't berate players you feel are profit centers for yourself, you make them feel welcome and entertain them to keep them playing with you.

Now, a player like him, you don't try to entertain him to profit. You get him tilted so he spews in a rage because he feels he's better than you and "deserves" to win.

And he continued to spew. I should probably put him on my Christmas card list.
 
Funds were received this morning which was exactly 7 business days since I requested a withdrawal. Not too shabby, Bovada. (y) :thumbsup:
 
Now Villain starts spewing off in the chat box, but one thing really stuck with me. He said, "that was a really bad call because you had the A of spades."

I know that this is a pretty clear-cut case of overplaying aces, but I felt like I had a good read on Villain so I went with it, but why does calling with the :as: make this a worse call than usual? I've been mulling it over and just can't seem to come up with a logical answer.

Flawless logic= Because he's an idiot.

Good read, well done.
 

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