.25c / .25c - Interesting hand against super loose aggro player (1 Viewer)

[moojersey]

I want some opinions on a hand I played last night at a local home game.
$25 buy in, .25c / .25c blinds

Villain in question seems to be playing the role of super LAG tonight.
Raising lots of pots to $1.25 pre-flop (standard action). 100% continuation bet rate.

The one time I got a little tilty and fed up, I check raised a flop on him (i missed), he insta mucks.

I wanted to exploit his game and decided to let him hang himself most of the time though.
Seems to be working as he has continuously barreled into me (with the worst of it) on most boards.
Somehow he has managed to elude the bear trap.
One hand of note I had on the button (raised pot, I decided to flat the button)

Board came out - and he managed to get away from his pocket

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So the hand in question:

Villain = $75'ish
Hero = $43'ish (in the game for $50, 1 reload)

Folds to me in the cut off and I decide to raise to $1.25 with

I've been playing on the tight side I think, but mostly because I've been card dead.
This looks good enough and I'm a little bored to be honest so it's time to play a pot.

Button calls but won't be significant in this hand.
Small Blind folds.
Villain from above calls pretty quick from the Big Blind.

Doesn't mean much because he's been in almost every pot, firing away, and is the big winner so far tonight.
Table is soft overall I would say, and I am probably the only player that is really willing to play back at the steamroll.

Pot = $4

Flop comes very favorable




Villain fires $2.50 which he has been continuing with regardless of the pot size.
He is c-betting $2.50 into .75c pots or $3 pots regardless.

I think about putting the raise in, but I don't want to blow him off his bluffs.
I think he probably has nothing here most of the time.
So I call and the Button folds behind.

Pot = $9

Turn:



Villain says "all in" so fast I'm not even sure if he really saw the hit the board.
Hero is disgusted and tanks.

What are your thoughts about this spot?

I've invested $3.75 into this $9 pot.
I have like $40'ish behind and he has me covered.

 

[Mental Nomad]

I call and prep for the reload.

It may not be the best play for this hand, but I feel it's my best play for this table... If I lose, he's further convinced that he's playing like a genius. I expect to be collecting from him the rest of the night.

Caveat: be sure he's not actually a poker genius.

 

[DrStrange]

Hero's hand is behind every hand with a pair bigger than nines / jack kicker. Hero is further behind a made straight.

Hero is ahead of a flush draw, in rare cases Villain is drawing dead with a hand like

The pot is too small to give enough odds for Hero to call a ~$40 bet. Calling isn't a horrible error - something like $2 of lost expected value - but still it isn't right. [ AND hero can't rebuy for his deeper stack, only $25 which means he can't recover his losses or bust the deep stacked villain. ]

The time for aggression is on the flop. Slow playing is wrong because the part of Hero's equity derived from draws is fleeting. It is worth the most on the flop with two cards to come. The turn card could have helped Hero by giving him six more outs, but villain spoils the semi-bluff opportunity by betting all-in first.

As for the preflop, Hero has already told us he made the decision to raise, in part, because he was bored. I recommend against that choice - limp in with the speculative holding and go for a sky high SPR rather than end up multiway with an SPR of ~10.

 

[justsomedude]

If you're facing an over pair (let's assume he paired a King), you're drawing 45% against 55%... which is almost a race. And you're way ahead against AQ, AJ, or lower suited connectors (except 67). The only hand to be afraid of here is QJ (obviously), or a set. Even if he has pocket 8s, you're still drawing 32% into 68%.

If you're sitting with a $10,000 entry at the WSOP ME, I'm folding this hand... but for a $50 home game, I'm calling every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Jam it and see how things shake out!

 

[Mental Nomad]

[ AND hero can't rebuy for his deeper stack, only $25 which means he can't recover his losses or bust the deep stacked villain. ]

If this is the case re: rebuys, then I'd reconsider my call... but I still put villain on a worse hand more often than DrStrange suggests. I may be taking OP's comments about villain too literally, but I can easily see the described villain taking this line with holdings like AJo, 9x, Q8o...

Worries are hands like 88 and even 76o, which which villain can easily call a raise from the BB and then C-bet in an attempt to steal the flop and/or build a pot to win or steal later... or, when they flop big, like they did here, villain gets to cash in on reputation to get paid off.

If re-buys are also limited to $25, calling here becomes a very long-term play, so I hesitate to do it unless it's still early in the night, or villain is a reg that I can expect to play in the future.

 

[onerand]

Raise the flop and be happy to play for stacks. You have great equity. Turn is a fold unless there is some chance your 9 is good.

 

[AlPresidente]

Open raising J9 suited from CO is standard I think.
You have to raise the flop. Taking it down here is fine as is becoming pot committed. Otherwise you never know where you are for the rest of the hand. Overbet the flop; make it $15-20 total.

 

[moojersey]

Yes we limited rebuys to $25 at a time and some people did reload.

In my mind I don't see how this is ever a bluff or I am ahead in my wildest dreams. To me it looks like he wants a naked diamond draw to play for stacks on the turn. I assume at this point in the hand - a pair of K's is at the bottom of most people's ranges.

 

[moojersey]

He also stacked me for my last $8 on my first buy in with against my when the board came

 

[moojersey]

Well as much as I really want to call I decide discipline should rule the day and I toss my hand to the muck.

Before I mucked I asked villain if I call will he run it twice. Villain says no.

Villain shows

 

[justsomedude]

Well as much as I really want to call I decide discipline should rule the day and I toss my hand to the muck.

Before I mucked I asked villain if I call will he run it twice. Villain says no.

Technically, you needed to act before negotiating running it more than once... it's a bit weird that he would even respond to the question before you acted. But since he commented, you might be able to read some info from his refusal to run it more than once. It might be an indication of a weak hand.

Villain shows

Ugh. Brutal!

Did you at least rabbit hunt the river?

 

[trever]

late to the party, so 20/20 hindsight may be in play...

Against a "super loose agro player" you are correct to passively call down as long as you think they'll keep betting. Push back too soon and you'll let them off the hook early and minimize your value. The downside of course, is that you may have to make tough, heroic calls against them as they pressure you throughout the hand.

Quick betting, i.e. "so fast I'm not even sure if he really saw the hit" is a tell. It means that villain did not have to stop and consider the card before deciding what his action would be; which usually means that he's bluffing.

 

[rjbf65]

Hell of a play by him. Those types of players drive me crazy but are also really fun to have at the table. I probably would have folded too in disgust and under protest.

 

[Adam Crowley]

I think this is a fold as well. You made no mention of villain overbetting previously and I when someone overbet shoves on a wet board I would generally categorise it as the nuts trying to get a call from a weaker hand.

After him showing his 44 you can obviously adjust his range for next time to include a few more bluffs.

 

[justsomedude]

You made no mention of villain overbetting previously...

Except in the thread title?




"super loose aggro player"

 

[Adam Crowley]

Except in the thread title?




"super loose aggro player"

Sorry that was poorly written. I mean overbetting in previous hands, such that you could have a better indication as to the villains intent.