I'm looking for some input into a questionable call AFTER the flop. Admittedly, this wasn't my finest poker (so I'm probably opening myself up for a flaming). I'm hoping there will be a few constructive posts 
As for my play pre-flop, you can comment, but I've already said this was not an +EV play, and the post-flop call is what I'm looking for feedback on.
Action:
Hero is on the button, has 24,000 in chips, blinds at 1.5k/3k (but next hand they're going up to 2/4k). Hero has been running great all game (with the chip lead), but in the last level, he's dropped to the small stack due to some hands that didn't go his way.
Villain is a cranky tag (but crafty) player. She's sitting on 28,000k in the BB. Rarely does she raise her BB.
The table is 5 handed. Action limps around to the hero on the button, who looks down at
. Before Hero can act, the SB mucks, so the BB is next (and last) to act.
Here calls the 3k (not sure what he was thinking), and here is the lame explanation:
1- Hero would usually fold in this situation (or if playing, probably just shove),
2- Hero has considered that there's 10.5k of dead money in the pot already.
3- Hero is certain that the BB isn't raising, so he's confident that his 3k call is not at risk of being raised.
4- This is a 20 person tourney, and we're on the money bubble.
5- There's a juicy cash game running in the other room (with only one seat open), that hero is very much wanting to play. This shouldn't factor in, but there's positives for sticking around, and for leaving the tourney now.
6- We're in position, so if we see a flop and miss, we'll have 21k (or a hair over 5bb). if we fold, we'll be at 24k and have 6bb. Either way, it's crisis time.
As calculated, BB checks, and the flop comes
.
The villain is first to act, and shoves her remaining 24k into the middle. Folds back to hero, what's next for our hero?
Now we've gotten ourselves into a pickle. trying to range villain here is interesting. Now WE are making the tough decisions, rather than the villain, due to our questionable pre-flop limp.
Here's what was going through my head (In the moment)...
- It's unlikely she has a strong K, otherwise she'd might have raised/shipped pre...
- Having a deuce seems unlikely, as she would prob slow play the trips.
- If she has a king, then we're likely drawing for a chop. Now, I'd never advocate drawing for a chop, but in this case, that chop would increase my stack size by around 25%. If I call, and win the pot, I'll increase my stack to around 55k, and no longer be in danger.
- I think there's a 50% chance she's got a king that beats us, but just as likely she's got a weak pocket pair (given the shove) or a weaker K. It's hard to put her on a strong pocket pair, as she'd have likely shoved pre? I could see her shoving on that flop with less than a king.
- If she doesn't have a K, then we're way ahead.
- We do have backdoor hearts, but I never would use a backdoor anything to justify any poker decision.
- One seat left on the cash game table...
- Next hand, I'll have 5bb. Do I gamble now?
Again, not saying my rationale is solid, but that's what I was thinking in the moment.
Based on the thread's title, you can surmise I made the call.
Please feel free to pick apart my logic, or let me know if you would have made the call too? Constructive criticism welcome.
As for my play pre-flop, you can comment, but I've already said this was not an +EV play, and the post-flop call is what I'm looking for feedback on. Action:
Hero is on the button, has 24,000 in chips, blinds at 1.5k/3k (but next hand they're going up to 2/4k). Hero has been running great all game (with the chip lead), but in the last level, he's dropped to the small stack due to some hands that didn't go his way.
Villain is a cranky tag (but crafty) player. She's sitting on 28,000k in the BB. Rarely does she raise her BB.
The table is 5 handed. Action limps around to the hero on the button, who looks down at
. Before Hero can act, the SB mucks, so the BB is next (and last) to act. Here calls the 3k (not sure what he was thinking), and here is the lame explanation:
1- Hero would usually fold in this situation (or if playing, probably just shove),
2- Hero has considered that there's 10.5k of dead money in the pot already.
3- Hero is certain that the BB isn't raising, so he's confident that his 3k call is not at risk of being raised.
4- This is a 20 person tourney, and we're on the money bubble.
5- There's a juicy cash game running in the other room (with only one seat open), that hero is very much wanting to play. This shouldn't factor in, but there's positives for sticking around, and for leaving the tourney now.
6- We're in position, so if we see a flop and miss, we'll have 21k (or a hair over 5bb). if we fold, we'll be at 24k and have 6bb. Either way, it's crisis time.
As calculated, BB checks, and the flop comes
. The villain is first to act, and shoves her remaining 24k into the middle. Folds back to hero, what's next for our hero?
Now we've gotten ourselves into a pickle. trying to range villain here is interesting. Now WE are making the tough decisions, rather than the villain, due to our questionable pre-flop limp.
Here's what was going through my head (In the moment)...
- It's unlikely she has a strong K, otherwise she'd might have raised/shipped pre...
- Having a deuce seems unlikely, as she would prob slow play the trips.
- If she has a king, then we're likely drawing for a chop. Now, I'd never advocate drawing for a chop, but in this case, that chop would increase my stack size by around 25%. If I call, and win the pot, I'll increase my stack to around 55k, and no longer be in danger.
- I think there's a 50% chance she's got a king that beats us, but just as likely she's got a weak pocket pair (given the shove) or a weaker K. It's hard to put her on a strong pocket pair, as she'd have likely shoved pre? I could see her shoving on that flop with less than a king.
- If she doesn't have a K, then we're way ahead.
- We do have backdoor hearts, but I never would use a backdoor anything to justify any poker decision.
- One seat left on the cash game table...
- Next hand, I'll have 5bb. Do I gamble now?
Again, not saying my rationale is solid, but that's what I was thinking in the moment.
Based on the thread's title, you can surmise I made the call.
Please feel free to pick apart my logic, or let me know if you would have made the call too? Constructive criticism welcome.
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(I'm behind big time, crap!).
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