Tourney A set to cover it all? (1 Viewer)

[DrunkleWade]

Hey Guys,

I have been reading and reading and re-reading threads on Tournament chip breakdowns, starting stacks, blind structures and color-ups. My head is swimming and I just want to you to check my thinking in regard to a single table 8-10 player T25/20K game with option to play T100/40K. No rebuys.

1. Starting Stack
   • T25 - 12/12/5/6/2 I looked at the Manzoni 8/8/6/6/2 stack which I liked but as far as I've read it can make change making difficult.
   • T100 - 15/7/10/5
2. Chip Set - 25x120 / 100x140 / 500x80 / 1000x100 / 5000x60 / 25000x20 (520 total)
3. Blinds- 20 min / 15 min breaks / 5-6 hour length.
   • 25/50
   • 50/100
   • 75/150
   • Break - colour up 25s to 100s
   • 100/200
   • 200/400
   • 300/600
   • Break - colour up 100s to 500s
   • 500/1000
   • 1000/2000
   • 1500/3000
   • Break - colour up 500s to 1000s
   • 2000/4000
   • 3000/6000
   • 4000/8000
   • Break
   • 5000/10000
   • 10000/20000
   • 15000/30000
   • 20000/40000
   • *EOT*

Secondly, for the T100 (and I'm pretty sure what the response will be ) but what do you think of changing the 1k to a 2 or 2.5k chip, the 5k to a 10k and the 25k to a 50k?
Not sure on chip numbers but maybe blinds could be;

• 100/200
• 200/400
• 300/600
• Break - colour up 100s to 500s
• 500/1000
• 1000/2000
• 1500/3000
• Break - colour up 500s to 2500s
• 2500/5000
• 5000/10000
• 7500/15000
• Break - colour up 2500s to 10ks
• 10k/20k
• 20k/40k
• 30k/60k
• Break
• 50k/100k
• 100k/200k
• 150k/300k
• 200k/400k
• *EOT*

Lastly, I know it's frowned upon to use the same chip set for both cash and tourney but I'm looking at .5/.10 blind $10/100bb up to .10/.25 blind $50/200bb micro stakes cash games using .05/.25/1/5 denoms. From the 25 on it's a T25/20K and T100/50K tourney set. Do you reckon that will work?

So all up a chip set of;
.05 x100
.25 x220
1 x240
5 x100
(660)

25 x120
100 x140
500 x80
1000 x100
5000 x60
25000 x20
(520)

or...
25 x120
100 x120
500 x80
2500 x80
10000 x40
50000 x20
(460)

Cheers,
Wade

 

[BGinGA]

single table 8-10 player T25/20K game with option to play T100/40K. No rebuys.

1. Starting Stack
   • T25 - 12/12/5/6/2
   • T100 - 15/7/10/5
2. Chip Set - 25x120 / 100x140 / 500x80 / 1000x100 / 5000x60 / 25000x20 (520 total)
   
   Secondly, for the T100 (and I'm pretty sure what the response will be ) but what do you think of changing the 1k to a 2 or 2.5k chip, the 5k to a 10k and the 25k to a 50k?

Your posted starting stacks (12/12/5/6/2 = 20k and 0/15/7/10/5 = 40k) are fine, although 12/12/5/11/1 would also be acceptable for T25-base. All color-ups should be made to chips that will not be later removed from play (i.e, not to T100s or T500s, but rather to T1000s and T5000s).

A 10-player set for both T25/20k and T100/40k usage (including color-ups) will require:

120 x T25
150 x T100
70 x T500
115 x T1000 (15x for T25/T100 color-ups)
57 x T5000 (7x for T500 color-ups)
5 x T25000 *
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517 chips. You can round those chip counts up, but not down. See below for T25k chips.

* You really do not need any T25000 chips at all -- the absolute most you could possibly use would be just 5x for T1000 color-ups, but the T25-base event will end by the 5k/10k blind level, and the T100-base event will end by the 10k/20k blind level. T5000s as the highest denomination in play will work fine.

Regarding your second question, using a 100-500-2000-10000 progression is not advised for small stacks or small fields. You will need many more starting T500 chips (since no T1000 workhorse chips are in play), and there simply aren't enough total chips on the table to support the larger denominations.

Multple tables and millions of chips in play are needed to realize the value of eliminating the T500-to-T1000 jump by introducing a T2000 and T10000 chip. And with only 400k total chips in play with your set, needing a 50k chip is totally out of consideration (10k chips really won't be needed, either).

Lastly, my recommendation for a single-table cash set at your posted stakes:

100 x 5c
200 x 25c
200 x $1
100 x $5
40 x $20
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640 chips = $1555 bank ($155 per player)

 

[DrunkleWade]

 

[MC_CPA]

12/12/5/11/1 would also be acceptable for T25-base.

I was trying for the longest time to come up with a configuration where I could pre-stack the starting racks and also have 12/12. This works great, can go 12/12/1 and then 4/11, and keep the 5k ones seperate.

Had them at 8/8/4($500) & 4($500)/6/2 for halfrack.

Time to resort my collection lol