Are Abbiati and Matsui coming to the US? And who makes these? (2 Viewers)

[NVFlip]

I tried searching but couldn't find anything about this. I saw an article that Abbiati has appointed agents and distributors to North America but the focus is on Canada. I also saw that Matsui has a location in Las Vegas. I sent an email to their contact asking about said location. (I'm really hoping it's a retail location but that's probably asking too much. I visit Vegas twice a month for work.) I also tried calling their 702 number but I get a voicemail. I'll report back here if they reply. This was all just out of curiosity. Plus I really like the designs of both chip manufacturers.

I've played with the chips in the pic below. They're very nice. I don't think they're clay. At least they don't feel like clay to me. I could be wrong. Does anyone know who makes them? If these are made by either cos. I know I'm going to love a set from them for a home game.

TIA

https://gamingamericas.com/industry...s-and-distributors-for-north-american-market/

https://www.matsui-americainc.com/en/contact

 

[AH77]

Those chips are made by Bud Jones. They are plastics.

 

[Eriks]

Abbiati and Matsui makes high end plastic chips, as does Bud Jones (the manufacturer of the wsop chips in your photo).

None of em sell chips retail but you can order custom chips from Abbiati and Matsui. This is usually done in group buys, since set-up fees make ordering individual sets too expensive. Bud jones chips are only available through the second hand market, namely on here.

 

[NVFlip]

That's a bummer about BJC. Thanks for the info.

How would you guys rate all 3 brands when compared to each other? I've never handled Matsui or Abbiati. How do they compare to BJ?

 

[BGinGA]

How would you guys rate all 3 brands when compared to each other? I've never handled Matsui or Abbiati. How do they compare to BJ?

All three are slippery as snot.

 

[JMC9389]

All three are slippery as snot.

The 43mm Matsuis are less so, but still can't get past it enough to pull the trigger on a set despite how nice they look.

 

[Eriks]

That's a bummer about BJC. Thanks for the info.

How would you guys rate all 3 brands when compared to each other? I've never handled Matsui or Abbiati. How do they compare to BJ?

They do have their fans here, but I would echo the others in the thread and say that they’re way too slippery

 

[mipevi]

To all the people who can’t handle plastic chips properly: It’s a ’you problem’. OP already stated that he has played with Bud Jones S2 chips and that he likes them. Are you seriously trying to convince him otherwise? LMAO

How would you guys rate all 3 brands when compared to each other? I've never handled Matsui or Abbiati. How do they compare to BJ?

There are many differences, but feel is probably what matters the most. The BJ S2 line has a slight texture when new, but I’m assuming that the chips you played with had been broken in, so the plastic had a smooth and soft feel to it. You get a very similar feel with Abbiati right out of the gate. Matsui has two materials available, ABS and nylon, both have a harder feel to them. I would recommend getting some new(ish) condition Abbiati samples in your hands to see how you like them.

 

[BGinGA]

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but personally, I'm not paying a premium to buy plastic chips that handle worse than clays.

 

[ovo]

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but personally, I'm not paying a premium to buy plastic chips that handle worse than clays.

B&G baby

 

[ArielVer18]

How would you guys rate all 3 brands when compared to each other? I've never handled Matsui or Abbiati. How do they compare to BJ?

Get samples to form your own opinion. Some members here like to state their own opinions as facts and will fight anyone who disagrees

 

[NVFlip]

To all the people who can’t handle plastic chips properly: It’s a ’you problem’. OP already stated that he has played with Bud Jones S2 chips and that he likes them. Are you seriously trying to convince him otherwise? LMAO


There are many differences, but feel is probably what matters the most. The BJ S2 line has a slight texture when new, but I’m assuming that the chips you played with had been broken in, so the plastic had a smooth and soft feel to it. You get a very similar feel with Abbiati right out of the gate. Matsui has two materials available, ABS and nylon, both have a harder feel to them. I would recommend getting some new(ish) condition Abbiati samples in your hands to see how you like them.

Thanks for the response. Yeah I like how the BJs feel and shuffles well for me. I've played with clays and know how those feel also and know the difference between BJ and nice Paulson clays. (Now that I know that wsop set are by BJ)

 

[BPTDirector]

I have 43mm Matsui chips from the Horseshoe group buy, yes they are slippery. I like them but had already talked to those who were thinking of another group buy and warned them that after 5 4 hour tournaments they look like new, but now are very slippery when compared to clays.

 

[ovo]

I have 43mm Matsui chips from the Horseshoe group buy, yes they are slippery. I like them but had already talked to those who were thinking of another group buy and warned them that after 5 4 hour tournaments they look like new, but now are very slippery when compared to clays.

so they get more slippery with use ??

 

[chippitydoodah]

I agree that you'll love having a set. My first real casino chips were BJV7's and I love them. They don't "click" or "clack" like clay, they kinda "cluck" and I like it. I also like the magnetic kinda suction thing they do to each other...it's sorta sensual. The colors are vibrant and you'll have them for years & years and they'll look like new. Can't beat the prices either.

 

[BPTDirector]

so they get more slippery with use ??

so they get more slippery with use ??

Yes in my experience. It levels out but they have lost some traction they had at first. My players love them though

 

[ChippinUp]

I’m not sure you can say Bud Jones S2’s are slippery? I know the V7’s aren’t the greatest but I think the S2’s are one of the best high end plastic chips out there

 

[toothpic]

To all the people who can’t handle plastic chips properly: It’s a ’you problem’. OP already stated that he has played with Bud Jones S2 chips and that he likes them. Are you seriously trying to convince him otherwise? LMAO

It's not a problem if we're buying clay chips

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but personally, I'm not paying a premium to buy plastic chips that handle worse than clays.

Agreed. I do love how plastics look and sometimes I keep going down that path because I'm stubborn. Abbiati's were the best plastics I've owned or played with.

 

[mipevi]

It's not a problem if we're buying clay chips

Yet I keep reading about it time and again, from some of those very people that are so into clay chips. It’s getting tiresome. Here it was clear that OP likes the BJ S2 chips, and he asked how Abbiati/Matsui chips compare. Somehow it became important to educate him that they are all very slippery!?

I don’t like ceramic chips, but I don’t go around posting how much they suck in every thread regarding ceramics. It’s about my personal likes and dislikes, i.e. a ’me problem’, and I’m happy for chippers who enjoy their ceramic sets. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, but there’s a time and a place.

[/soapbox]

Happy chipping everyone, I love my clay chips too!

 

[Organista1]

I’m not sure you can say Bud Jones S2’s are slippery? I know the V7’s aren’t the greatest but I think the S2’s are one of the best high end plastic chips out there

I’m a huge BJ fan and that’s the chip that brought me here on pcf, was looking to buy something exactly like that (BJ). At the time I had never felted Paulson but I fell in love with the BJ sound and feel. When I got my hands on Abbiatti chips, I can honestly say they are superior to BJs. Never owned Matsui but do have a sample set and Abbiatti takes the win by far. They’re heavy, durable, and sound nice when splashed around. I wouldn’t describe them as slippery but that’s my opinion, and I wouldn’t hesitate to own a set.

 

[ChippinUp]

I’m a huge BJ fan and that’s the chip that brought me here on pcf, was looking to buy something exactly like that (BJ). At the time I had never felted Paulson but I fell in love with the BJ sound and feel. When I got my hands on Abbiatti chips, I can honestly say they are superior to BJs. Never owned Matsui but do have a sample set and Abbiatti takes the win by far. They’re heavy, durable, and sound nice when splashed around. I wouldn’t describe them as slippery but that’s my opinion, and I wouldn’t hesitate to own a set.

There is a massive Park Place Abbiatti set for sale in the classifieds and I find myself looking at it over and over. They look very nice but I’ve never had samples yet.

So many great options, so little money……

 

[chippitydoodah]

There is a massive Park Place Abbiatti set for sale in the classifieds and I find myself looking at it over and over. They look very nice but I’ve never had samples yet.

So many great options, so little money……

You won't regret it that's for sure! I love them. I've heard many describe them as almost feeling "rubbery" and that's very accurate. It's hard to explain.

 

[Beakertwang]

You can replicate the look of high-end plastics on ceramics with a label, known as "hybrids" around here. You can get these through Sunfly (PolyInno), or from Tina (no mold hybrids). Both are somewhat slippery, but not noticeably more than the chips they are copying.

 

[NVFlip]

So many great options, so little money……

I resemble that remark.

 

[chippitydoodah]

You can replicate the look of high-end plastics on ceramics with a label, known as "hybrids" around here. You can get these through Sunfly (PolyInno), or from Tina (no mold hybrids). Both are somewhat slippery, but not noticeably more than the chips they are copying.

Only thing is all of the "Tinas" look washed out in color. Nothing like the real things.

 

[ChippinUp]

You won't regret it that's for sure! I love them. I've heard many describe them as almost feeling "rubbery" and that's very accurate. It's hard to explain.
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That’s a great looking lower denom set. Great breakdown and those chips are

 

[ChippinUp]

That’s a great looking lower denom set. Great breakdown and those chips are

There was supposed to be flames at the end of my post….that set is fire!

 

[Beakertwang]

Only thing is all of the "Tinas" look washed out in color. Nothing like the real things.

I've found Tina's colors to be quite vibrant, but there's certainly a difference between printed color and and color embedded in plastic (or clay, for that matter).

 

[Organista1]

There is a massive Park Place Abbiatti set for sale in the classifieds and I find myself looking at it over and over. They look very nice but I’ve never had samples yet.

So many great options, so little money……

They become available from time to time. I owned both and settled on the crown plazas (love the $5s). I hope they do come to US or if their is another GB I’d be in again.

(Not my pic)

 

[ChippinUp]

They become available from time to time. I owned both and settled on the crown plazas (love the $5s). I hope they do come to US or if their is another GB I’d be in again.

(Not my pic)

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I am seriously starting to love the cali colours. Those 5’s are beautiful