ASM or Portland made? (1 Viewer)

[mike32]

I just received a bunch (1,000 approximately) of chips on the flower mold made by George Co. They are new old stock and I read on the mold website that Portland made them. They look just like ASM chips but are a bit lighter and have no brass. Definitely compression molded and all are hot stamped CHILE on both sides. Really cool old chips that I did not pay much for, but the weight is a little disappointing. I took some pics beside some Roman molds, I would bet ASM or a precursor made them. Sorry for lame pics I'll post more later if any interest. I'll file this one under you can't win em all, but still playable on an uncommon mold.

 

[mike32]

Couple more

 

[RussB42]

I don't think they are ASM's and will try and find out more tomorrow.

Is there a recess deep enough for a Label ?

Nice Chips, I really like the older chips.

 

[mike32]

No recess. The colors match my other ASM chips very well. They are growing on me a bit as I shufle some. Weight very similar to my BCC chips.

 

[dammitjim]

I had/have a bunch of circle squares made by the Portland Card Co back in the day. They looked exactly like ASM circle squares and were lighter weight. The boxes said "Portland Card Co" on them. I guess Portland could have made these and sold them to George and Co who rebranded the boxes. It seems more likely the George and Co had the mold and made the chips.

 

[gmunny]

George & Co and Portland were both distributors that owned their own molds. They did not manufacture their own chips. All the George & Co flower mold chips were probably made by Burt & Co., which was ASM's predecessor. I don't recall when Portland was founded, but itheir chips were probably made by Burt, then ASM after 1988. Pre1990's, other than Burt/ASM, the only clay chip manufacturers were USPC (which sold their chip making equipment to Burt in the late 40's), TR King and Paulson.

Nice chips!

 

[dammitjim]

George and Co still exists and has a website - http://www.georgeandcompany.co/

 

[mike32]

I saw that website dammitjim! I don't think they sell the chips any longer, wonder if they still have the mold? Also I was confusing Portland with Burt, glad the "man" gmunny got us straightened out, he is a wealth of chip knowledge! I have not been able to find anyone else in the CT archives who had a large set of the flower mold chips, but I bet they are out there.

On a side note I figured out i bought a rack of those brownish-red Paulson advertising chips off of you a couple months ago, you sent me one of those old circle square chips with the order!

 

[BGinGA]

Pre1990's, other than Burt/ASM, the only clay chip manufacturers were USPC (which sold their chip making equipment to Burt in the late 40's), TR King and Paulson.

What about C&J (Christy & Jones)?

 

[MSPatton]

A nice reference for those who were not around before the initial sale

http://web.archive.org/web/20050205072037/http://www.pokerchips.com/help/history.html

 

[gmunny]

C&J's were made by Burt & Co, too.

 

[BGinGA]

Thanks! I had long wondered if that was the case.

 

[dennis63]

When I visited ASM a couple of years ago, they had the H mold on the machine. I saw a long, tall shelf (similar to those at Home Depot). They had many molds -- more than I ever knew existed.

It makes me wonder what some of the others might be.

 

[mike32]

I now have a rack of black flower mold chips with the brass flakes. In my mind if there was any doubt that Burt made these it's gone now. Crazy thing was after a long time with no flower mold chips on the market that I know of, a different seller listed 2 more racks very cheap right after I bought the first 10. So I have around 1,200 of these now, 200 containing brass. The brass does make a difference, but not a huge difference.