Casino / Cardroom Conversion from Clay to Ceramic (1 Viewer)

[Matrixmoney]

Saw another thread that sparked this feeling I've had for a while and wanted to vent / get thoughts from others:

I really hate the ceramics chips (cheap and ugly to me ) being used in the Casino Industry as I've noticed more and more casinos and card rooms in the industry are converting to them instead of Paulsons or other clays. Is there a known industry reason for this? Is it simply cost cutting benefits that dont impact preference from players on where they play based off of chip quality changes?

I've wondered if my perspective is right, if the casino industry is switching from clay to cheaper chipers, would it push Paulsons back into offering public chips for revenue? Wishful thinking I'm sure for various reasons, but I'm just guessing that they have far fewer chip orders in the casino industry now than they did 10+ years ago with how often it I see non clay chips in use.

To be humorous - I wonder if 10+ years from now if it will just become paper, cardboard or plastic chips if players dont have a preference to where it impacts choice in location for play, why would the casinos not continue to cut down on these chips cost? I'm surprised they havent cut down additionally in major noticeably areas... Do you really need a nice table for a table game with felt and cushion rails? Shoot, just get a foldable table from Walmart with a plastic table cloth birthday party casino theme (lol) instead. People wont care Do they even offer free drinks in casino these days in Vegas to any player or do you have to hit a certain rewards tier now after wagering x amount?

I mean, look how many players adopted double 0's on roulette... now I've heard the strip in Vegas is pretty much mostly TRIPLE 0's and people still play, how long until quad 0's?

Thanks for listening to me rant. lol

 

[MeridianFC]

I think the chance of GPI offering to the public (non NAGB) is probably between slim and none. For all the obsessives here I can’t imagine the amount sold would even be a dent into what one large casino would order.

10 years from now, it won’t be paper or plastic, it will be no chips and everything will be electronic

 

[bmacpoker]

I think the chance of GPI offering to the public (non NAGB) is probably between slim and none. For all the obsessives here I can’t imagine the amount sold would even be a dent into what one large casino would order.

10 years from now, it won’t be paper or plastic, it will be no chips and everything will be electronic

Yeah, I'm worried about the digital bit. I think honestly it would take poker dying out a lot for that to happen, though. You don't want to preemptively push away live players, but if there weren't many and streaming/broadcasts have no viewership, I could see it changing.

 

[buzzmonkey]

GPI would just switch to making ceramic chips if that becomes the new norm. They're cheaper and more durable.

 

[LeLe]

Honestly, most of the casino / poker players don't care if their chip is Clay or Ceramic.

And also, 0% GPI is ever selling to the public again

 

[ovo]

electronic would be boring, no cards or chips.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Chips or tokens work in favor of the casino because people lose the understanding of the value. If it went to digital, you would constantly be reminded of how much your gambling.

 

[ThinkingFold]

Chips or tokens work in favor of the casino because people lose the understanding of the value. If it went to digital, you would constantly be reminded of how much your gambling.

I've always wondered how much of a psychological effect chips have on people not equating them with real money.

And while I'm sure the $1s are the most commonly taken and lose casino's money, I've always felt that casino's are secretly happy with souvenir hunters wandering off with $5 or higher chips.

 

[ThinkingFold]

I think the chance of GPI offering to the public (non NAGB) is probably between slim and none.

Well, if the history here is any guide, we can still plan on yearly "once in a lifetime" NAGBs happening.

 

[Taghkanic]

10 years from now, it won’t be paper or plastic, it will be no chips and everything will be electronic

And that will suck.

But maybe usher in a golden era of home games where you can still use chips.

 

[bmacpoker]

Chips or tokens work in favor of the casino because people lose the understanding of the value. If it went to digital, you would constantly be reminded of how much your gambling.

Yeah, that's why I say it would have to be dead already. While it's still massively popular, they would never make that change.

 

[MeridianFC]

Chips or tokens work in favor of the casino because people lose the understanding of the value. If it went to digital, you would constantly be reminded of how much your gambling.

Like the old saying goes "Whoever invented gambling was smart, whoever invented chips was a genius."

 

[doublebooyah85]

Like the old saying goes "Whoever invented gambling was smart, whoever invented chips was a genius."

No way I am triple barrel bluffing w real cash in $5-$10 NL lmao!

 

[Taghkanic]

While it's still massively popular, they would never make that change.

Hope you’re right. One would like to think that there would be somebody on every casino management team who would understand this point (that chips make it easier for people to risk money).

Based on some of the bizarre decisions casinos make, I’m not sure some would necessarily understand it until they saw the bad results.

 

[Matrixmoney]

Hope you’re right. One would like to think that there would be somebody on every casino management team who would understand this point (that chips make it easier for people to risk money).

Based on some of the bizarre decisions casinos make, I’m not sure some would necessarily understand it until they saw the bad results.

Seeing how much Casinos have been able to get away cutting cost on the player experience, I am surprised they havent been more aggressive.

 

[innacanoe]

Ceramics chips are a long way from casino-Venmo

I suspect there are cost issues at play, but also the trade offs are rapidly evolving with new security technology. With RFID tracking you don’t need to rely as much on fancy spot patterns and colors and house molds.

Pandemic period also emphasized cleanliness and ceramics likely better than clay chips for cleaning ease at a casino as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if that was an even more important factor in Asia than North America.

 

[allforcharity]

Pandemic period also emphasized cleanliness and ceramics likely better than clay chips for cleaning ease at a casino as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if that was an even more important factor in Asia than North America.

Asia has always preferred plastic chips, jetons, and plaques, which have been much more durable and just so happens to be easier to clean.

 

[suchj0sh]

I wouldn’t mind good quality plastic chips at the end of the day. I enjoyed playing with the BJ chips out in Cali just fine. It’s not my preference, but they are ok.