Chips needed for multiple cash tables (1 Viewer)

[Taghkanic]

Question: As you add cash tables beyond your first table, are the added chips needed typically just straight multiples?

Or can you go lighter as you add tables, especiallj if your first batch is pretty generous and flexible?

Example: Say for an eight-handed single table cash game which runs at either 1/3 or 2/5, you have a flexible 800-chip set, including:

160 $1s
340 $5s
200 $25s
80 $100s
20 $500s
(Total bank ~25K, or ~15K excluding the $500s)

My feeling is that when adding a second table, you could get away with adding another 600 chips, rather than just doubling the initial set.

Then say 300-400 more each for third and fourth tables, for an average of about 600 chips per table overall.

Thoughts? Still seems high but it’s nice to have plenty of chips, and room to grow. I assume the biggest need would be for $5s given her plans for two different stakes.

 

[Taghkanic]

Background: I’m trying to help a friend in another area who has ambitious hosting plans — maybe too ambitious, but I am hoping to steer her in a reasonable direction without being discouraging.

The questions I’ve been fielding may have usefulness to others, hence the post.

Her hope is to host as many as four tables of cash at a time. She thinks she can fill two or three tables of $1/$3 and one or two tables of $2/$5 a couple times a week.

So typically say a minimum of two eight-handed 1/3 tables and one 2/5… With sometimes a fourth table of either her lower or higher stakes.

(I find getting even one table of 2/5 a struggle at times in my rural area, but she lives in a more densely populated city and sincerely thinks she can fill four. )

 

[Taghkanic]

… Plus her plans include building her own tables and commissioning custom chips for game security. Going to steer her probably toward custom Tinas for the chips, if this really happens. Still a bit dubious.

 

[Machine]

for a 2/5 you can likely forego 'extra' ones, but for the 1/3 you'd likely need an additional rack or about 300.

I would have 300 $1s to support 2 tables of 1/3, but I like to go light. If you have a dedicated dealer they may like you to have 400 to 500, so it feels as though there is an abundance of 1s hoping that ppl are more likely to tip.

 

[pokrgeek21]

That’s insane I wish I could get those kinds of games lol. I’m lucky to have one table for .25-.5 every month or so lol. I have a breakdown that works for all the way up to 2-5. But to support what she wants it would have to be Tina’s or the chiproom sales.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Based on the proposed initial set up, I would double it. Especially if there is tips or r4ke.

 

[Tonysquander]

2 racks of $5s are plenty for 2 tables.

 

[Machine]

… Plus her plans include building her own tables and commissioning custom chips for game security. Going to steer her probably toward custom Tinas for the chips, if this really happens. Still a bit dubious.

First I would explain that Rome wasn't built in a day.

Someone running games like this is typically taking a rake. I would inquire about it with her, I would also find out if she plans to have a dealer.

I would likely build for a 2/5 and then add additional chips for the 1/3.

For one table of 2/5 I would look for (this assumes a rake)

1 x 200
5 x 1400
25 x 300
100 x 100

For a second table of 2/5
1 x 100
5 x 600
25 x 100
100 x 100

That should cover 2 tables and the rake for say 9 hours, that will take about 550 $5 chips off the table, its likely a second table will not go that long.

 

[links_slayer]

2 racks of $5s are plenty for 2 tables.

1 stack of hundos per table is plenty

 

[detroitdad]

Or can you go lighter as you add tables, especiallj if your first batch is pretty generous and flexible?

This! My two table games are 14 max

 

[toothpic]

I haven't had to go to two tables yet for cash games, but my plan was to double the chips should I need to so I could still have the same playable amount on both tables. That's how I ended up on my CPC set just in case

0.25 x 200
1 x 400
5 x 800
25 x 400+ (primary and secondary)
100 x 200+ (primary and secondary)

 

[pokrgeek21]

I haven't had to go to two tables yet for cash games, but my plan was to double the chips should I need to so I could still have the same playable amount on both tables. That's how I ended up on my CPC set just in case

0.25 x 200
1 x 400
5 x 800
25 x 400+ (primary and secondary)
100 x 200+ (primary and secondary)

Man I’m starting to realize my sets are too small lol time to get MOAR!

 

[pokrgeek21]

Is it generally the same for tourney setup as well? I have set ups for 20 plus a few rebuy with 5k’s.

 

[Taghkanic]

My sense is that if one table is especially action-y, with lots of rebuys soaking up too many workhorse chips, this could be remedied by having enough high denoms to buy up some of its 1s/5s for another table when it opens, if absolutely necessary. Part of my thinking that maybe all four don’t need mega breakdowns.

 

[toothpic]

My sense is that if one table is especially action-y, with lots of rebuys soaking up too many workhorse chips, this could be remedied by having enough high denoms to buy up some of its 1s/5s for another table when it opens, if absolutely necessary. Part of my thinking that maybe all four don’t need mega breakdowns.

Agreed. 300-400 workhorse chips per table is plenty. This is especially true for self dealt tables. If dealer dealt you can go higher without too much issue as long as your players aren't crap at stacking their chips when they win a big pot.

 

[doublebooyah85]

This isn’t gonna be another thread where you you ask for suggestions and then debate the best answers, right? lol ;-)

If it’s only two tables I’d go deep at both, and if there was a third to open it would be very scarce etc.

If she goes the Tina route I bet everything will be within budget anyway!

 

[ArielVer18]

just straight multiples?

No, not if you have an "efficient" breakdown. For example, you want to have a little bit more lower denoms because they rarely get split evenly among the tables.

Doubling your 160/340/200/80/20 is fine since you can probably "get away" with as little as 80 $1s at an 8-handed 1/3 table.

 

[allforcharity]

I would treat each table separately, and get a 600-chip set for each table based on stakes to be played.

If all 4 tables are going to spread a variety of stakes from game to game, then I can see requiring 800+ chips per table. Efficiency vs. Flexibility at this number of tables can be convoluted.

 

[PokerSenpai]

Background: I’m trying to help a friend in another area who has ambitious hosting plans — maybe too ambitious, but I am hoping to steer her in a reasonable direction without being discouraging.

The questions I’ve been fielding may have usefulness to others, hence the post.

Her hope is to host as many as four tables of cash at a time. She thinks she can fill two or three tables of $1/$3 and one or two tables of $2/$5 a couple times a week.

So typically say a minimum of two eight-handed 1/3 tables and one 2/5… With sometimes a fourth table of either her lower or higher stakes.

(I find getting even one table of 2/5 a struggle at times in my rural area, but she lives in a more densely populated city and sincerely thinks she can fill four. )

I'd be down for some $1/$3.

 

[ontheriver51]

I think if you just added and extra 300-500 $5s and maybe 100 extra $1s you should be good. That will give enough for $1k per player without touching your $500s. If the game plays super deep maybe add 1 extra barrel of $500s

 

[LeLe]

Seem like a good chance to use 2 different chips set for 2 tables, esp since most of us own multi sets

 

[philhut]

First I would explain that Rome wasn't built in a day.

Someone running games like this is typically taking a rake. I would inquire about it with her, I would also find out if she plans to have a dealer.

I would likely build for a 2/5 and then add additional chips for the 1/3.

For one table of 2/5 I would look for (this assumes a rake)

1 x 200
5 x 1400
25 x 300
100 x 100

For a second table of 2/5
1 x 100
5 x 600
25 x 100
100 x 100

That should cover 2 tables and the rake for say 9 hours, that will take about 550 $5 chips off the table, its likely a second table will not go that long.

This works out but I would emphasize the need for more 1/5 value chips if raking. The last thing you want to do at an event is to open the rake box to recirculate chips....at least not in the same room.
If you have 2 boxes your dealers could take them out and swap them as part of their change procedure.

 

[Taghkanic]

I assume she is planning to take a rake if some sort if organizing that large a game, but she hasn’t said.

So good point that it would require more small chips.

(Some dealers are adept if there is no drop box at reserving a slot in their box for tips and coloring up each time they hit $25, but that seems less ideal.)

 

[Taghkanic]

I think my working recommendation for four tables total of 1/3 and-or 2/5 is:

500 $1s = $500
800 $5s = $4,000
400 $25s = $10,000
200 $100s = 20,000
40 $500s = 20,000

(1,940 chips, total bank $54.5K, or ~34.5K excluding the $500s)

Might bump things up slightly to make it a round 2,000-piece set.

 

[allforcharity]

My own rough calculations would have used 600× $1 and 1000x $5, with the rest the same for about 2200 chips total