Tourney Do I need T 25K? (2 Viewers)

[maxim_666666]

Very briefly, is a 25K chip really necessary for a T25 tournament?
If you have a “classic” t25 tournament set (12*12*5*6) and have additional t5000, then everything is fine and it seems that having additional t25k is unnecessary. But, some guys do it and have these chips in sets....
Today I tried a tournament with a T25 structure for the first time and it was amazingly smooth, comfortable... And even my group, who previously played tournaments with cash chips 1-100$ (levels 1-1, 1-2, 2-4, 4 -8,...) very rarely used a chip with a face value of $100 (=2,500) and never a chip with a face value of $500 (=12,500), already by level 400/800 we were playing calmly and realized that there were enough chips. Although, at first they were frightened by the bet of 25, instead of the usual 1/2...
But, there were always a maximum of 6 players and mostly family members...

Do I need 25,000?

I have now placed an order with CPC... (I decided not to delay and respond to the company’s call to place an order now) But, there is a little time to add an additional chip... But is it worth it? It's not cheap... But, to be honest, I don't regret the money, but the chips... I sincerely don't want them to become covered with dust in the case...

 

[BGinGA]

T25K chips are not needed in a single-table T25-base set.

 

[JMC9389]

If you play with only T10,000 base stacks, you only need about a barrel or two of 5,000 chips, never mind 25,000 chips.

How many players, rebuys, etc will determine how many 1,000 and 5,000 chips you will need.

If you play with T20,000 base or more starting stacks or go with a T100 base blind structure and omit the T25's, 25,000 will almost certainly be needed.

 

[doublebooyah85]

I’d add a barrel or two bc why not? Or maybe an add on down the road. Or plaques!

 

[maxim_666666]

T25K chips are not needed in a single-table T25-base set.

I have:
120 t25
120 t100
50 t500
75 t1000
35 t5000

 

[maxim_666666]

If you play with only T10,000 base stacks, you only need about a barrel or two of 5,000 chips, never mind 25,000 chips.

How many players, rebuys, etc will determine how many 1,000 and 5,000 chips you will need.

If you play with T20,000 base or more starting stacks or go with a T100 base blind structure and omit the T25's, 25,000 will almost certainly be needed.

I have:
120 t25
120 t100
50 t500
75 t1000
35 t5000

 

[maxim_666666]

I’d add a barrel or two bc why not? Or maybe an add on down the road. Or plaques!

It's a shame they don't make them out of clay.

 

[joeyshin]

I just hosted a 3 table t20k starting at 25/50. We allow rebuys first 6 levels and there is optional addons. We ended up using less than 2 barrels of t25k chips but mostly becasue we end up with a total of 50-60 buy ins.

If you’re doing STT then I don’t think you’ll need it

 

[maxim_666666]

I just hosted a 3 table t20k starting at 25/50. We allow rebuys first 6 levels and there is optional addons. We ended up using 2 barrels of t25k chips but mostly becasue we end up with a total of 50-60 buy ins.

If you’re doing STT then I don’t think you’ll need it

I don't plan to play games for significant amounts of money; at the moment, poker for me is nothing more than a social game. And I don't know what the next chip should be if 5.000 looks like this....

 

[ovo]

I like to use the 25k chip as a rebuy chip, helps to keep track of rebuys

 

[maxim_666666]

I like to use the 25k chip as a rebuy chip, helps to keep track of rebuys

How does this work if the starting stack is 10k?

 

[BGinGA]

How does this work if the starting stack is 10k?

It has no value, but can be exchanged for a replacement starting stack (5k, 10k, whatever).

 

[RocAFella1]

T25K chips are not needed in a single-table T25-base set.

What about a three table T25-base set? T20-25k starting stacks.

 

[BGinGA]

What about a three table T25-base set? T20-25k starting stacks.

Extremely unlikely to ever need more than half a barrel.

Best way to determine 'need' is to calculate how many are needed to color-up the T1000 chips (if any). In your example:

30 stacks of T25k (8/8/4/7/3) = 210 x T1000 = 210,000 requiring just 8 x T25k chips (and two T5000s) to replace. Even if adding extra T1000 chips used to color-up the T25 chips, no more than ten T25k chips are ever needed.

 

[ovo]

I like to use the 25k chip as a rebuy chip, helps to keep track of rebuys

it don't, was thinking 25k and up

 

[Nine_high]

I hosted a 13 player tournament recently with 5 rebuys, starting at 60k (T100 base). I used less than a barrel of 25k chips. Two per rebuy and another couple during color up. They definitely weren't necessary but I wasn't going to let that stop me!

 

[Tonystark137]

I feel like "need" is the wrong word to use here.. maybe... "How can I justify buying more chips"

 

[maxim_666666]

What about a three table T25-base set? T20-25k starting stacks.

I will only have one table. It's just about him. I could never gather more than 6-8 people. But these were mostly always games among relatives. For games with more players, I can always buy another set.

 

[maxim_666666]

Right now CPC is making such a set 120(25)*120(100)*50(500)*75(1000)*35(5000)
Probably you should just add 5 t5000 chips. And then I will cover a table for 10 people (with a starting stake of 10,000) and the possibility of 10 rebuys. Because right now there are 7.5 rebuys possible.

 

[maxim_666666]

Thank you guys so much for the advice!

 

[BPTDirector]

Only for show is what I was going to say. As for use, sincerely doubt I’ll ever use the barrel I have.

 

[DeeVee8]

Its like a show of force in war. No, you don't need them. But damn, they're cool.

 

[buzzmonkey]

A 25k can be useful if your going to have 1million+ on the table(s), which would be very rare in a T25 base game.

 

[DeeVee8]

Extremely unlikely to ever need more than half a barrel.

Best way to determine 'need' is to calculate how many are needed to color-up the T1000 chips (if any). In your example:

30 stacks of T25k (8/8/4/7/3) = 210 x T1000 = 210,000 requiring just 8 x T25k chips (and two T5000s) to replace. Even if adding extra T1000 chips used to color-up the T25 chips, no more than ten T25k chips are ever needed.

imho, go with like 3-4 25k plaques. When it gets down to the final 3 or 4, you can put one in each players stack. Players love plaques, in my experiences.

 

[andrebttx]

I’ll agree with a single table, the odds of you needing a T25K are very low, unless y’all are just really blasting off with your rebuys. My tournaments are usually two tables, with about 25ish entries overall, so I do end up getting some T25Ks in by the end, but it’s more of a nice thing, they aren’t needed explicitly.

To put it another way, my current tournament set is a cards mold set from Tina, and so it was worth it to throw in some T25Ks. But my next tournament set will either be a CPC or Paulson set, and so once I am dealing with a much higher price point, I will probably only pick up a few, if any, T25Ks, and instead will probably slightly rework my structure to make it so it never needs to progress past T5K.

 

[TexRex]

I have 2 tournament sets that start with T25 that have both T25,000 and T100,000 chips. Both sets were designed for 30 players with a starting stack of T40,000. So the answer depends on how many tables, what your starting stacks are like, your blind structure, and how long you want the game to last. We almost always have T25,000 chips in play near the end. I'm a believer in buying sets that can be used for multiple structures and that your game will likely use higher starting stacks over time, at least for some games.

 

[allforcharity]

Take the entire value of all the starting stacks among all tables, plus the maximum expected numbers of rebuys and add-ons, and then divide everything by 25000. If this ends up to be a trivial number, e.g. less than 10, then you do not need any T25k chips.

You'll find that you might start needing them with base T100 sets and definitely needing them with base T500+.

 

[louBdub]

Need? No.

Want? Yes. I understand….