Edgespots, more important, how they look in stacks or face of chip? (1 Viewer)

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Ive always wondered which way people lean when looking at edgespots.

On the one hand, when you are designing, you are probably 80% looking at the face of the chip and how it looks with your inlay, while only 20% is devoted to looking at how they look in stacks.

Most people are probably going to agree that its somewhere in the middle, they have to look good on the face of the chips AND look good while in stacks.

I actually think I lean the other way, how chips look in stacks are probably a tiny edge on the look of the face of the chips. I'm probably the outlier here.

Something interesting to think about and I'm curious if people even take this into consideration at all, especially with customs
 
I think your 80/20 number is probably right for me. Sometimes I find myself looking at other peoples stacks and thinking how amazing they look from the sides.
 
Examples:

Edgespot view
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Face view
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i definitely agree that the appearance of stacks is more important, but if i'm being honest i spend a lot more of my time looking at the face.

my basic process is to find a progression that i like on the face of the chips and then make sure that it works well and is sufficiently distinguishable in stacks. i should probably spend more time and sooner in the design process checking out the look in stacks.
 
I want my chips to look best in stacks. The way edgespots look on the face of the chip is important to me, but I'll be seeing my chips from the sides most of the time. That's just me.

Consider also all the great sets that don't really allow you to see the spots on the face of the chip (PNYs, Vineyards) but look awesome in stacks.
 
Something interesting to think about and I'm curious if people even take this into consideration at all, especially with customs

Good question! Also, love the gratuitous Donkwood's stack pr0n. Those are pre-oil, yes?

I only look at the edgespots in stacks for functional purposes to prevent dirty stacks, not aesthetic. I'm not a particular fan of alternating 818 spots or 8v spots from a stack perspective as I think the edges look too busy, but that would never keep me from designing a chip with alternating 818 spots (such as the $20 chip in my upcoming Armory cash set) if it worked within the set, and if I had the money I would snap buy Liftapint's Condado set regardless of that alternating 8v chip (which I think looks dope on the face anyway).

In unrelated news, Dope on the Face would be an interesting band name.
 
Isn’t there a third consideration, how the chips look together in a pot?

I say this because if the chips are designed properly, you can easily distinguish one denomination from another in a pot so you can separate them easier.

This actually gives more consideration to chips with smaller labels with more chip surface showing, but with that said I love giant inlays and I cannot lie.
 
Consider also all the great sets that don't really allow you to see the spots on the face of the chip (PNYs, Vineyards) but look awesome in stacks.

That's part of the reason I stay away from such sets. Some people absolutely adore them, but I'm not among their ranks. Can't deny that they look phenomenal in stacks, though! I'd put the Mardi Gras v2's up there as well.
 
Isn’t there a third consideration, how the chips look together in a pot?

I say this because if the chips are designed properly, you can easily distinguish one denomination from another in a pot so you can separate them easier.

This actually gives more consideration to chips with smaller labels with more chip surface showing, but with that said I love giant inlays and I cannot lie.
I agree with this with the only exception that the inlay should not obscure the spots on the face. Some of the giant inlays that BCC did (WCB 1 Chips for example) sucked when you looked at the face of the chips in a pot. For me it's all about being able to count the chips in a pot and a stack first. So I agree with the 80/20 comment.
 
Since I don't win very often, my stacks are small.....I'd rather see the faces on the money I throw away each hand than the stacked spots :confused:
 
edge spots are good when you have to count up someone's stack
 
I didn't think the edge spots were too important until I went to a casino where the chips were really hard to distinguish because of the edge spots. I don't remember where this was but it was really tough to get a good count going. Now l feel it is 50-50, both are equally important to me.
 
I only think a few people answered the question at hand, when designing a set or purchasing a set. which one do you gravitate towards more? Stack edge spots or face of chip edgespots?
 
During design, probably more the face.... which in turn reflects on how they will look in pots. But the underlying stack vision is always present, too.

How the spots look (or don't look) on the chip face has deterred more than one purchase on my part..... and almost always due to an overly-large inlay that obscures what would otherwise be totally awesome chips/spots. Ritz, Vineyards, Olivia's, Mardi Gras v2, just to name a few.
 
20% face, 80% stacks.

Wait, we're talking about chips? In that case, closer to 50/50. ;)
If it's THAT coversation id say 40/60. I mean you still have to see the face but a killer body does cover some up. Just say no to the brickyard body with a shipwreck face.
 
If it's THAT coversation id say 40/60. I mean you still have to see the face but a killer body does cover some up. Just say no to the brickyard body with a shipwreck face.

Haha 80 face / 20 stacks.

You cant change a face ( yes I know you can, but it never turns out well )

You can always change those stacks though

Funny story, I have this friend who has this fetish with crazy in-shape girls, like if they dont have a 6pack he wont even look at them. Then you move up to their face and its grotesque. Hes dated a million of these girls. And everytime they breakup, I tell him, you cant change a face, but you can get a girl in the gym with you.
 
Haha 80 face / 20 stacks.

You cant change a face ( yes I know you can, but it never turns out well )

You can always change those stacks though

Funny story, I have this friend who has this fetish with crazy in-shape girls, like if they dont have a 6pack he wont even look at them. Then you move up to their face and its grotesque. Hes dated a million of these girls. And everytime they breakup, I tell him, you cant change a face, but you can get a girl in the gym with you.
I dunno about 80/20 face to body. I don't care how pretty the face is if the body is totally jacked! Guess you need a little of both in this scenario
 
For my BCC set I was probably 50/50 face and stacks, but this is difficult to quantify. The Chip Factory shows face and stack together, and I took both into account at the same time. Therefore, I have to give equal weight to face and stacks. Fortunately, I lucked out -- IMHO they look just as great in pots as they do in stacks.

For my ASM set I was 50/50 for a while until it occurred to me to mock up a pot shot:

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These are not the final versions, of course, and some of the subsequent changes were influenced by this particular mockup. I heartily recommend doing this. Measured by time and giving equal weight to faces and stacks, my ASM set was probably 47% face, 47% stacks, and 6% pot. However, each element has veto power over the others, so in terms of importance each element is 100%. Don't settle for less.
 
Ok so here's a thought, what quantifies a sexy side profile on a chip?

Although not necessarily sexy, my requirements are that the chips are easily distinguishable from one another, that stacked chips will be relatively easy to count by their spots, and that the spot patterns are pleasing to the eye both in individual stacks and as stacks within a set. The base colors as well as the spot colors work together to make chips distinguishable. ymmv
 
Giant inlays are all about the face. Bold statement, if done well. Yes, they obscure the edge spot partially, but if the inlays themselves are somewhat colored to match the base chip color, it would help with the problem of distinguishing them in a pot. Examples of this would the Vineyards, and the BCC High Rollers Club.

Many people know of Paulson’s giant inlay, but I don’t know if people have seen the edge-to-edge “humongo” inlay. The center graphic covers the entire face of the chip, including edge spots, such that the inlay itself has to print some “fake” edge spots to match, sort of like Chipcos. Here are some examples. The mermaid chip's base color is actually black, same as the left one.

I’m not sure if any casinos have ordered these edge-to-edge inlays. They are kind of ridiculous IMO… but then again, that mermaid is kind of mesmerizing.


 

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