flopped trips with action out of SB (1 Viewer)

[grebe]

This happened at @Seeking Alpha Social Club, hopefully he will chime in from another seat's perspective. I will post up streets as the day progresses.

Game is .50/1 and we are both around $300 and doing well. Main villain is a strong player with a wide range and plays aggressive. I would tag him as the best player at the game and he has been putting moves on me and other big stacks. He has also been the only one straddling at the table and does it every orbit (utg). He plays noticably weak from a straddle though.... Which is where we pick up.
Hero is SB with As6c several limps in, I follow suit for 2 bucks... Villain checks option. Pot $12. Flop: 8d6d6h Checks to MP that bets 7 folds to hero, I call. BB clears and villain raises to 35. MP folds. I'm thinking no way he limped pre-flop with 88, so thinking we both have sixes. I flat.

Pot $89

 

[arch3r]

Odds are he does not have the 6.
So he probably has a straight or flush draw? Or hell, the straight flush draw.
Over pairs would have 3-bet preflop.
You don't block any of the draws he could have.
His $35 bet is probably trying to protect his draws while saying he has a 6.
You are probably best right now, but you will have to fade a ton of outs if you continue.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

This happened at @Seeking Alpha Social Club, hopefully he will chime in from another seat's perspective. I will post up streets as the day progresses.

Game is .50/1 and we are both around $300 and doing well. Main villain is a strong player with a wide range and plays aggressive. I would tag him as the best player at the game and he has been putting moves on me and other big stacks. He has also been the only one straddling at the table and does it every orbit (utg). He plays noticably weak from a straddle though.... Which is where we pick up.
Hero is SB with As6c several limps in, I follow suit for 2 bucks... Villain checks option. Pot $12. Flop: 8d6d6h Checks to MP that bets 7 folds to hero, I call. BB clears and villain raises to 35. MP folds. I'm thinking no way he limped pre-flop with 88, so thinking we both have sixes. I flat.

Pot $89

First off...I was way too drunk to provide an adequate assessment...sorry. Second, I never straddle...so your best player at the table assessment is flawed...LOL!!

I all seriousness, the general consensus from everybody in attendance was that you were awesome to play with, and you are more than welcome anytime!!

 

[grebe]

First off...I was way too drunk to provide an adequate assessment...sorry. Second, I never straddle...so your best player at the table assessment is flawed...LOL!!

I all seriousness, the general consensus from everybody in attendance was that you were awesome to play with, and you are more than welcome anytime!!

You were up so much getting rebuys and making drinks, I never got a good read on you!

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

If you're talking about

You were up so much getting rebuys and making drinks, I never got a good read on you!

Strategy worked!!...LOL

You missed some good late night (early morning) action. I trapped Rich and busted him for a giant pot. Patience paid off

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

So I'm assuming the villan is Stan? Just asking so I can get an idea of how this played out. I honestly do not remember the hand (or how it ended), but if it was Stan, being the new guy might have screwed you here. The rest of the table would have puckered up on that flop against Stan.

His favorite hand is....


Because nobody sees it coming.

 

[grebe]

So I'm assuming the villan is Stan? Just asking so I can get an idea of how this played out. I honestly do not remember the hand (or how it ended), but if it was Stan, being the new guy might have screwed you here. The rest of the table would have puckered up on that flop against Stan.

His favorite hand is....


Because nobody sees it coming.

It was Rich. You dealt this one...

 

[grebe]

Alright, I guess most people are actually working today.....action's on the turn:

turn gets dealt: 5c . Straight gets there, but I am not worried about a straight. I do not want this to get out of hand in case he has 68, so I check. It gets out of hand and he bets $85.

 

[BGinGA]

I dunno why you aren't shoveling money into the pot on both the flop and the turn holding trips with ace kicker. Putting villain on 88 or 86 (or 97/74 after the turn) is seeing monsters under the bed imo.

 

[Legend5555]

I can see an argument for just calling down if all the villain can have are bluffs or better made hands. It's so hard for them to have the case 6 that you can't assign a lot of weight to that as part of their range. Though it can exist given the pot was limped.

 

[Darson]

Villain checked his straddled option so likely doesn't have a very strong hand - he could have anything.

Post flop, his aggression is to put you off your hand. If you had 86 then you can let him do the betting and take his money. With a limped pot, there's likely to be another 6 out there and maybe it's in his hand but he's unlikely to have a better kicker. But every additional card you give him allows him to fill up. If's he's holding 56 then you're screwed on the turn unless you catch an ace.

The confident play would be to respond to his $35 flop raise with a re-raise to $100.

Personally, being chicken-shit, I would have folded

 

[grebe]

Villain checked his straddled option so likely doesn't have a very strong hand - he could have anything.

Post flop, his aggression is to put you off your hand. If you had 86 then you can let him do the betting and take his money. With a limped pot, there's likely to be another 6 out there and maybe it's in his hand but he's unlikely to have a better kicker. But every additional card you give him allows him to fill up. If's he's holding 56 then you're screwed on the turn unless you catch an ace.

The confident play would be to respond to his $35 flop raise with a re-raise to $100.

Personally, being chicken-shit, I would have folded

Spoiler alert, but this is VERY spot on.

 

[Steve Birrer]

My two cents, and its probably worth less than that, is that he has a straight or flush draw. He could easily hold 97 and want to see the flop.

And really who cares if he has the case 6. The only hands we are worried about would be 86. IF he has a 6 its the spade so he has no flush draw. You have the best kicker. Would he have just limped preflop with 88 or a higher pocket pair? If you don't think so then I'd never let him draw on me.

 

[JScott]

Maybe he's like me and his favourite hand is 69. In which case you've got to fade the remaining 9's or a 7. I also love the snowmen so this would be an easy pot for me to steal with my image.

Based on SASC's post, he's probably got big lick and caught his 7, or he had 88 or 56 suited and you lost this one.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

Maybe he's like me and his favourite hand is 69. In which case you've got to fade the remaining 9's or a 7. I also love the snowmen so this would be an easy pot for me to steal with my image.

Based on SASC's post, he's probably got big lick and caught his 7, or he had 88 or 56 suited and you lost this one.

I was actually thinking it was a different player...Stan. who's favorite hand is 86

 

[JScott]

I was actually thinking it was a different player...Stan. who's favorite hand is 86

AHHH. Well my favourite hand is 69 suited. I've won a lot of hands based on holding AND table image whenever 6's or 9's hit the board. Starting to win less when I actually have it though haha

All my predictions are now out. Continue on.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

Villain checked his straddled option so likely doesn't have a very strong hand - he could have anything.

Post flop, his aggression is to put you off your hand. If you had 86 then you can let him do the betting and take his money. With a limped pot, there's likely to be another 6 out there and maybe it's in his hand but he's unlikely to have a better kicker. But every additional card you give him allows him to fill up. If's he's holding 56 then you're screwed on the turn unless you catch an ace.

The confident play would be to respond to his $35 flop raise with a re-raise to $100.

Personally, being chicken-shit, I would have folded

Spoiler alert, but this is VERY spot on.

@Darson , this is a pretty good assessment of how the villain plays. He plays $5/$10 NLHE at MGM regularly, he's single with a good job, and he loves to gamble. That's a long way of saying that his range is beyond wide (he has no range), and he will put your will to survive to the test on every hand by betting giant with the stone cold nuts, or with absolutely nothing. Hyper aggressive player who loves to gamble.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

As a wise man once said....he looks into your soul on every hand...LOL!!

 

[detroitdad]

@Darson , this is a pretty good assessment of how the villain plays. He plays $5/$10 NLHE at MGM regularly, he's single with a good job, and he loves to gamble. That's a long way of saying that his range is beyond wide (he has no range), and he will put your will to survive to the test on every hand by betting giant with the stone cold nuts, or with absolutely nothing. Hyper aggressive player who loves to gamble.

Is this the same guy that I doubled up through early on in the cash game when I held K's. We got it all in pre flop and he had some shitty hand? I think it was a 3'ish way all in pre flop lol.

I was like, wtf kind of game am I at

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

Is this the same guy that I doubled up through early on in the cash game when I held K's. We got it all in pre flop and he had some shitty hand? I think it was a 3'ish way all in pre flop lol.

I was like, wtf kind of game am I at

Yes...it's Rich...LMAO!! I was getting ready to tag you

 

[Hornet]

Yes...it's Rich...LMAO!! I was getting ready to tag you

Is there a seat open at the next game?

 

[detroitdad]

Yes...it's Rich...LMAO!! I was getting ready to tag you

That was such a crazy game. I was too his left. First too act in this specific hand. .50/1. I wake up with Poket Kings early. I make it 5 bucks. Before it gets back to me there are three players all in (including Rich). One of the guys was playing light. I called, and my KK's held up. Nobody had aces.

 

[justsomedude]

jammity jammity jammity jam

 

[grebe]

OK, so I left it at the turn 5, I check and he bet $85. I talked myself up to stop being a nit...you have the best kicker and if he's got it, he's got it. I shoved over top for about $110 more.

He calls and the crowd goes wild. People are standing up around the table and yelling out predictions and stuff, he quietly asked if I had a boat and I say no.....no cards have been flipped yet (it was chaotic). In the middle of all this, @Seeking Alpha Social Club turns and burns the magic in a bottle Ac and I respond "now I do" and show my hand. He flips over 56 offsuit for the 3 outer over 3 outer.

 

[detroitdad]

OK, so I left it at the turn 5, I check and he bet $85. I talked myself up to stop being a nit...you have the best kicker and if he's got it, he's got it. I shoved over top for about $110 more.

that's the right play imo.

 

[grebe]

My after thoughts on this hand, which I talked out with @Lil Tuna (thanks, bud!)

-I was goofing off with a bunch of limpers and not prepared to play for my stack. I absolutely did not want to be involved with this villain, as he was clearly good and not afraid to put pressure on bigger stacks. I normally don't like playing A6 off from any position much less early. All that led to me playing the flop in a daze.

-after the flop, I thought about the action this far, and I knew he had to have a 6. That gave me the third best....86, which honestly was the most likely hand to me... Then 56. Betting large in to 6 people on a paired board with a draw made no sense either, but I guess he could have. I leveled myself and got the money in maybe a Street to late. (Also, I have been told that I am wrong on this line....that he could have totally had a draw here and played the same way...which makes betting big on the flop even more correct).

-going forward, I think what I should have done was re raise to 100 on the flop after his raise to 35. He would have called or shoved, no matter.... And it would have all gotten in on the turn either way.

-I am a TAG by nature and I am trying to open up my range. I played well over all last night, but this is the hand that has really been bugging me... Even though I won it, I know I didn't play it well.

Also, don't feel bad for villain, I dumped a good chunk of it right back to him a few hands later.

Also also, I did not realize that Villain plays MUCH bigger until this thread.....which probably would have helped my decision making at the time had I known.

Thanks for playing along! Love to hear more thoughts...

 

[Darson]

@Darson , this is a pretty good assessment of how the villain plays. He plays $5/$10 NLHE at MGM regularly, he's single with a good job, and he loves to gamble. That's a long way of saying that his range is beyond wide (he has no range), and he will put your will to survive to the test on every hand by betting giant with the stone cold nuts, or with absolutely nothing. Hyper aggressive player who loves to gamble.

I wish I could credit it to analytical poker knowledge but I have a buddy who is exactly the same. He used to play $20/$40 online in the good old days and though he's since married with kids, he's still the definition of a aggressive. I'm on to him now so don't let him push me around quite as much as I used to but it still raises the blood pressure when I'm in a hand with him as I know all my money is going in if I'm to put him off any hand.

Sometimes he still gets his way - for example:

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

OK, so I left it at the turn 5, I check and he bet $85. I talked myself up to stop being a nit...you have the best kicker and if he's got it, he's got it. I shoved over top for about $110 more.

He calls and the crowd goes wild. People are standing up around the table and yelling out predictions and stuff, he quietly asked if I had a boat and I say no.....no cards have been flipped yet (it was chaotic). In the middle of all this, @Seeking Alpha Social Club turns and burns the magic in a bottle Ac and I respond "now I do" and show my hand. He flips over 56 offsuit for the 3 outer over 3 outer.

The funny part is I honestly don't remember how the hand played out. I'm not usually one to ponder past hands, plus this type of action is fairly common.

I tell everybody who plays with us, "after playing here, you will never be surprised or intimidated when you go to a casino."

 

[grebe]

If that was runner runner, that is seriously painful to look at.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

And fyi...Rich has the highest variance between wins and losses. It is not uncommon for him to be down or up $1000 for the night. Pretty tough to achieve in a .50/$1 game, but he pulls it off regularly.