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Not Mine Holy poop, do Paulson Vineyards really sell for this much? (1 Viewer)

It's the condition that makes them valuable. You could easily put together those 12 chips at a fraction of that price, but not mint.
 
The $500 chip is where much of that cost is coming from. I think I paid $150 for mine, can't quite recall. That was before about a barrel of them surfaced and sold as individual chips at a little less than this, I think. But to complete a sample set, some of those chips are hard to come by. ($10, $25, and $500)
 
liftapint said:
The $500 chip is where much of that cost is coming from. I think I paid $150 for mine, can't quite recall. That was before about a barrel of them surfaced and sold as individual chips at a little less than this, I think....
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Good memory, Mel -- it was 21 of them, actually. I know where they live... :cool:
 
I do have a soft spot for the Vineyards, as I love the color scheme (and wine). As others have mentioned, most of the price of that full sample set is in the $500 chip, followed by the $10 and $25. As Larry mentioned, that set hasn't moved in several years on eBay.

In general, the Vineyard chips are not available very often, and get snapped up quickly when they appear. The casino was only open for 10 months back in 1996, and the chips are in fantastic (or un-played) condition as a result. Having closed 20 years ago in January, the chips are tough to locate, and there are a few active collectors still filling out sets/obsessions. I am still looking for one more rack of $5s! There are about 150k Vineyard chips in the wild. Many of the denominations are rather limited, so a single rack of some denoms might be 15-20% or more of all the chips in existence (e.g., $0.50 small font version). Folks who own them tend to keep them. The counts that I believe are correct are as follows:
  • $0.50 = 3,600 (and only 500-800 of those are the small font version)
  • $1 = 43,133
  • $2 = 14,736
  • $3 = 11,783
  • $5 = 33,388
  • $10 = 2,025
  • $20 = 13,338
  • $25 = 4,485
  • $100 (4 spot version) = 9,566
  • $100 (8V) = 4,960
  • $500 = around 200 or so (probably) <---Larry owns ~10% of the world's supply
  • NCV (tourney) = 9,721
As my chip tastes expand in other areas (e.g., some TRK sets), I'm actually debating letting go of a rack or two of the $100 (4-spot version), but I know how hard they will be to replace. They just don't get much play at my place, and I feel a little guilty about keeping those 43mm beauties locked in the vault. I've also debating selling my racks of $0.50s, since I can't find enough of them to support a large group. The fracs would be impossible to replace, but I've gone with the Lakeshore Inn red quarters instead and like them a lot. We shall see....
 
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Mr. Cheese said:
Well I said "might be" because I wasn't sure if you had a huge set or not :)
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I didn't think there was any question that Inca's set reigns supreme!

I have just under 3000, I think, and maybe 1500 BCCs. Plus a few racks of Chipco quarters (that I actually prefer to use instead of the Paulson hotstamps). Since I can't figure out how to use mine, really, I sure can't figure out how he's going to use his gargantuan set. Just the number of people needed to get that entire set in play would seem statistically certain to include a few bad apple types so that some chips would walk off.

And who is it -- I've forgotten -- who has the six or more racks of 8-spot hundos that he uses as $1s? On one hand, I think that's great -- on the other hand, I think that's criminal. I feel strongly both ways... :cool:
 
pltrgyst said:
I didn't think there was any question that Inca's set reigns supreme!

I have just under 3000, I think, and maybe 1500 BCCs. Plus a few racks of Chipco quarters (that I actually prefer to use instead of the Paulson hotstamps). Since I can't figure out how to use mine, really, I sure can't figure out how he's going to use his gargantuan set. Just the number of people needed to get that entire set in play would seem statistically certain to include a few bad apple types so that some chips would walk off.

And who is it -- I've forgotten -- who has the six or more racks of 8-spot hundos that he uses as $1s? On one hand, I think that's great -- on the other hand, I think that's criminal. I feel strongly both ways... :cool:
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Haha I wouldn't have been surprised to hear that you owned like 30k of them or so ;).

Those 8 spot hundo's are one of my favorites. Well its hard to choose because I like the $10, 5, 1, 20, 25, 100, 500... oh who am I kidding I like all of them!
 
I've seen Larry's pictures, so I'm not sure if he really knows his Vineyard chip count! :p

pltrgyst said:
I sure can't figure out how he's going to use his gargantuan set. Just the number of people needed to get that entire set in play would seem statistically certain to include a few bad apple types so that some chips would walk off.
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Last year's WCB saw a large percentage of the set in play across 4 tables. It was fantastic! I didn't bring the limit sets of $3s and your favorite green pea soup $2s. With the @Jeff group, we fielded 300 "quarters" (technically the $0.50s), ~800 ones, ~400 fives, two racks of 20s, and got almost a barrel of $100s in play. Every chip made it home, so Jeff is clearly a good judge of character. I actually changed quarters and bought another rack of Lakeshores for this year's WCB quarterpalooza event. I don't like making change at a game.
 
Ah, a meat-up, the WCB -- about as trustworthy a group as you could choose, considering we all share and understand our insanity.

But even that was only 400 $5s -- didn't I see ~1800 $5s in your last picture?

As far as security is concerned, I was thinking more along the lines of using the entire set at a charity event or something similar{shudder}.
 
inca911 said:
I do have a soft spot for the Vineyards, as I love the color scheme (and wine). As others have mentioned, most of the price of that full sample set is in the $500 chip, followed by the $10 and $25. As Larry mentioned, that set hasn't moved in several years on eBay.

In general, the Vineyard chips are not available very often, and get snapped up quickly when they appear. The casino was only open for 10 months back in 1996, and the chips are in fantastic (or un-played) condition as a result. Having closed 20 years ago in this January, the chips are tough to locate, and there are a few active collectors still filling out sets/obsessions. I am still looking for one more rack of $5s! There are about 150k Vineyard chips in the wild. Many of the denominations are rather limited, so a single rack of some denoms might be 15-20% or more of all the chips in existence (e.g., $0.50 small font version). Folks who own them tend to keep them. The counts that I believe are correct are as follows:
  • $0.50 = 3,600 (and only 500-800 of those are the small font version)
  • $1 = 43,133
  • $2 = 14,736
  • $3 = 11,783
  • $5 = 33,388
  • $10 = 2,025
  • $20 = 13,338
  • $25 = 4,485
  • $100 (4 spot version) = 9,566
  • $100 (8V) = 4,960
  • $500 = around 200 or so (probably) <---Larry owns ~10% of the world's supply
  • NCV (tourney) = 9,721
As my chip tastes expand in other areas (e.g., some TRK sets), I'm actually debating letting go of a rack or two of the $100 (4-spot version), but I know how hard they will be to replace. They just don't get much play at my place, and I feel a little guilty about keeping those 43mm beauties locked in the vault. I've also debating selling my racks of $0.50s, since I can't find enough of them to support a large group. The fracs would be impossible to replace, but I've gone with the Lakeshore Inn red quarters instead and like them a lot. We shall see....
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Thanks for the history. I love this kind of info.
 
RainmanTrail said:
Over rated chips imo
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pltrgyst said:
And just what does that comment contribute here?

And I thought you had settled in after the "Best Full Casino Sets of All Time" thread...
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I think color wise it would be top 3 sets of all time, for me personally and probably Rainman I think the giant inlays kill it, just like the Ritz and PNY inlays do. Just my $.02. I even like the inlay design though some don't, just not giant slippery inlays.
 
kmccormick100 said:
I think color wise it would be top 3 sets of all time, for me personally and probably Rainman I think the giant inlays kill it, just like the Ritz and PNY inlays do. Just my $.02. I even like the inlay design though some don't, just not giant slippery inlays.
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Most definitely NOT a fan of huge ass inlays myself. All that goes out the window though when you get those beauties in stacks in front of you. Playing with @inca911 's set at WCB drastically changed my opinion of the Vineyards for the better.
 
tommythecat said:
Most definitely NOT a fan of huge ass inlays myself. All that goes out the window though when you get those beauties in stacks in front of you. Playing with @inca911 's set at WCB drastically changed my opinion of the Vineyards for the better.
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I agree, the only thing I don't like about them is that I sometimes had a hard time noticing the difference between $1s and $20s quickly in pots. That could've also had something to do with the fact that I was dealing/playing for 40 some hours that weekend...
 
upNdown said:
i guess this set has flown under my radar. And there it should stay, apparently.
$310 for 11 chips? Is that for real?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Vineyard-Casino-Paulson-Hat-and-Cane-poker-chips-/232200216005?hash=item3610361dc5:g:jxcAAOSwcBhWaIBi&_trkparms=pageci%3Ae91fdc3d-d5f2-11e6-b701-74dbd1805ae7%7Cparentrq%3A8039e5b21590a2b143dae4e2ffc2e2e9%7Ciid%3A1
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They have been getting top dollar for a while now. If people are paying that much then I suppose that's what they are worth (I would NOT be included in those people)
 
kmccormick100 said:
.... for me personally and probably Rainman I think the giant inlays kill it, just like the Ritz and PNY inlays do. Just my $.02. I even like the inlay design though some don't, just not giant slippery inlays.
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And I have no problem with your holding that opinion, or stating it. I share it to some extent, since I'm not at all attracted to either PNYs or Ritzes.

But that can be stated in a way, and in language, and in appropriate threads, so that it doesn't imply that there's something wrong with the opinions of other people who happen to like them.

It's the difference between saying "I don't care for Islay whiskies, myself" and saying "Laphroaig sucks!"
 
I thought Forrest and Larry owned all of the Vinyards that exist. We played with Forrests metric crap ton of them and only a few of us realized they were all worth more than face value.
 

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