Home Game & Tournament Set (1000ct) (1 Viewer)

[cadams13]

Good afternoon PCF!
I am completely new to this forum, as of today, and had a question that I have been contemplating for the past month or two... I am looking into purchasing a 1000ct (perhaps 750 or 500ct if it'll do the job) set of poker chips for my home games and tournaments that I throw at my "Cabin in the Woods". Now here is the dilemma... I am pretty sure I would not have any use out of a $1.00 chip seeing as we currently play with the ever-so-famous dice chips in denominations of $5, $10, $25, $50, $100, and $500. We typically play T1000 split up as follows: 16-$5, 12-$10, 12-$25, 6-$50, 2-$100. My question is, does this set-up utilize too many chips? Should I cut it down to using only $5's, $25's, and $100's? What do people here enjoy playing with? We've always used the $10 and $50 just to make blinds a single chip... pointless?

Also, when purchasing new chips, what quantities of each denomination chip would be a good starting set for both? Here are my amateur thoughts:

1000ct.
200 - $5
100 - $10
200 - $25
100 - $50
200 - $100
100 - $500
100 - $1,000

750ct.
250 - $5
250 - $25
150 - $100
50 - $500
50 - $1,000

Apologies for this, more-than-likely common questions, just wanted to get feedback from some "experts".
Thanks guys!

 

[Psypher1000]

First off, welcome - to the forum, and the rabbit hole!

Before we dive into recommendations, a few questions for you.

• Do want the same set to be used for cash games and tournaments?
• How many people are in your tournaments?
• What cash games do you play? What stakes? Are they fast and loose with the rebuys, or are they tight and conservative?
• What's your budget?

 

[atomiktoaster]

First off, welcome - to the forum, and the rabbit hole!

Before we dive into recommendations, a few questions for you.

• Do want the same set to be used for cash games and tournaments?
• How many people are in your tournaments?
• What cash games do you play? What stakes? Are they fast and loose with the rebuys, or are they tight and conservative?
• What's your budget?

Welcome! Psypher has the right questions, so please let us know the details. I'll give two quick pieces of general advice: You don't need anything besides T5, T25, T100, T500 (we can convince you later) and get samples before you buy. I'm a big fan of T1000/T2000 tournaments, so it's cool to plan another set for that structure.

 

[MaxB]

1000ct.
200 - $5
100 - $10
200 - $25
100 - $50
200 - $100
100 - $500
100 - $1,000

No to the 10's and 50's ........you can get those amounts with the 5's and 25's

If you are looking to use this as a cash set, you may want some 1's as well (unless you are a 5/10 high roller )

 

[cadams13]

Psypher,
Thanks for the response... here is some more info:

Same set for both: Preferably... wanting to get one, nice set
# of People: home games usually get between 6 and 10, the "tournaments" I hold are usually on the smaller side so we are looking at maybe 15 - 20 people (3 tables).
Cash games played: We almost exclusively play NLTH @ low stakes T1000 - T5000, anywhere between $10 and $50 (usually $20). One buy-in at specified blind-level (usually about an hour in) and 2nd gets money back. Usually only see about half the players re-buying at home games. We enjoy playing cash equivalents so the $5 is actually $0.05 (100x less the chip denom) but the chips on the table represent the money put into the pot... if that makes sense.
Budget: $300 - $500

Appreciate it!

 

[cadams13]

No to the 10's and 50's ........you can get those amounts with the 5's and 25's

If you are looking to use this as a cash set, you may want some 1's as well (unless you are a 5/10 high roller )

... I kind of thought so. I'm actually not sure why we use them now besides the fact that we have enough colors of chips. I may look in to picking up some $1.00 for the cash games as well. As I mentioned though, we like to play 100x less the chip denom so that the $5 chip is actually $0.05... this is a simple way for us to have the chips and cash equivelent... perhaps there is a better way to do this, other than throwing more money down

 

[JFCJ]

Welcome to the forum!


I think @Ben recently listed a set in the classifieds that may fit your needs and budget.

 

[MaxB]

I was the same way with my first big set ..... wanted 10's, 20's, 50's, 250's, 2500's and all the others. All got scrapped Relabeled some matching mold chips into 5k's and 25k's for rebuys and chip ups.

 

[Psypher1000]

Same set for both: Preferably... wanting to get one, nice set
# of People: home games usually get between 6 and 10, the "tournaments" I hold are usually on the smaller side so we are looking at maybe 15 - 20 people (3 tables).
Cash games played: We almost exclusively play NLTH @ low stakes T1000 - T5000, anywhere between $10 and $50 (usually $20). One buy-in at specified blind-level (usually about an hour in) and 2nd gets money back. Usually only see about half the players re-buying at home games. We enjoy playing cash equivalents so the $5 is actually $0.05 (100x less the chip denom) but the chips on the table represent the money put into the pot... if that makes sense.
Budget: $300 - $500

Your answers leave me slightly confused on the cash game aspects of your poker exploits, so my responses will make a few assumptions. You say "home games" are between 6-10, but tournaments are as high as 20. You also say you play "low stakes" tournaments in the low thousands (I think here you're actually referring to starting stacks), with a buyin of $20.

I'm going to interpret all this in the following manner.

Cash games: $.25/$.25 NL Texas Hold'em with 6-10 players
Tourneys: T2000 starting stack, for up to 20 players

You've also listed a budget of $500 or less, which is somewhat limiting when it comes to quality chips, but this can definitely be done.

Based on the assumptions I've made and the constraints given, here's what I'd look at

200x 5
200x 25
400x 100
100x 500
100x 1000

Plus a handfull of extras for each denomination to allow for loss/breakage.

This assumes a T2000 starting stack of 10/10/7/2

For cash games, the numbers would represent pennies. The 100s are loaded up the highest because in a .25/.25 game, the 100 would be your workhorse chips - you'll probably want lots of them.

As for chip options, I'd look at a few different things...

Nevada Jacks - These would put you a little over budget, but worth it IMO.

http://www.customizedpokerchips.com...-series/500-nevada-jacks-saloon-series-chips/


Scrolls - A nice ceramic option within your budget

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bulk-Lot-of...299286?hash=item418997c556:g:gnUAAOSwcu5UUEdg


Veneratis - while these are personally my second least-favorite ceramic chip, some people absolutely love them. Another great option within your budget...

http://www.buypokerchips.com/Venerati-Poker-Chips-p/set-vnrti.htm


Majestics - While orders are temporarily halted while the group buy is close to being fulfilled, Apache will soon start taking orders again for their newly-developed line of China clays.

They can be seen here - http://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/coming-soon.5517/page-13#post-75246

And ordered here (when the time comes) - http://www.apachepokerchips.com/majestic-poker-chips.html


Without knowing more, that's the best I can do for you for now. I'm sure others will have additional thoughts and recommendations, all of which should be listened to and considered. If nothing else, this group is knowledgeable and helpful!

Be sure to fire off any other questions you may have, and let us know when you're ready to make a custom set!

 

[atomiktoaster]

Some clarification will help, like psypher said. If I borrow his assumptions, it might make the tournament vs cash trade off clearer. For a 3 table tournament, 200/200/150/50/100 should work great. A t2k chip might be a good idea here.

For a one table cash tournament, 100/200/400/100/0 is probably fine. A 2000 chip played as $20 might help here too.

 

[Psypher1000]

A 2000 chip played as $20 might help here...

That thought crossed my mind.

@cadams13 - If you have no use for nickles in your cash/non-tournament games, you could do a custom set with Old West Poker Supply, switch your denoms to 25/100/500/2000, and get a nice, flexible CUSTOM set for around $500. You'd have to have someone make up some art for you, of course, but that wouldn't add much to your total expense, if anything at all (if you can't do it, you might know someone who can, or maybe a member of the community would do it gratis).

A chip breakdown for something like this might look like...

200x 25
400x 100
120x 500
80x 2000

Starting stacks for a T10k tournament would be 8/8/6/3. At .63/chip plus allowing $26 for shipping, that puts you at $530 before accounting for extras and/or artwork.

To place a custom order through Old West at the member discount price of .63/chip, you'll need to send an email to oldwestps@gmail.com and include your PCF user name, the exact order you want, full name and shipping address, and your Paypal or Square email address for invoicing. Sal at Old West is great to work with!

If you'd like to take a look at Old West's website, it can be seen here - http://www.oldwestpokersupplies.com/shop

 

[MD Mike]

Well looks like everyone else did a great job answering your question so I will just say welcome!!

My only advice: once you buy your first nice set, tell a friend to dig a hole somewhere and bury your wallet in there and don't let you get to it for at least a month.

If you spend any time here you will start to want a thousand sets...

Wish someone would hold on to my money for me

 

[cadams13]

Psypher, your assumptions were accurate. Our buy-ins are typically $10 or $20 for our home games in which we play with the appropriate number of chips (penny on the dollar). So, essentially I am looking for a set that would work for these home games as well as T1000 - T2000 tournaments with 15-20 people. I'm now thinking of a set such as this:
300 x 5
300 x 25
200 x 100
100 x 500
100 x 1000

Interested to see the explanation behind doubling the $100 chips... typically we do not utilize these very often during our home games. I can see where more would be useful in a tournament but that seems like a large amount of $100's. I would think the $25's would be the workhorse. Perhaps this is my ignorant thinking...

BTW, the more I am on this forum the more I am wanting to invest in a CPC/ASM custom set ... I think I caught the bug.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I would suggest starting any tournament with a T25 as the lowest denomination. This gives you the most bang for the buck, because when coloring up, your first color-up exchanges 4 chips to 1 (as opposed to the T5 5:1 ratio). If you've every wondered why most casinos start tournaments with T25 as the smallest denom, now you know.

The savings could then allow a dedicated cash game set, which would prevent the possibility of a chip finding it's way from the tournament table (where it's value is almost nil) to the cash table (where it suddenly has cash value).