How long until Casinos no longer have clay chips? (1 Viewer)

[Chris Flynn]

I have been a member here for about 8 years, I have seen so many casinos in that time replace their classic Paulson chips with cheaper plastic chips - mind you I am not necessarily complaining but it seems that clay chips aren't replacing any plastic chips anywhere and plastic chips are replacing clay chips everywhere.

Wondering if in 5 or so years if any casino will have clay chips?

 

[AlbinoDragon]

Five, yes. Ten, probably still yes, but a whole lot less.

Chips are a business expense to a casino and with the prices of chips at Paulson going up, places will find cheaper yet still secure alternatives.

When a $1 chip cost more than $1 to have made, they're going to look to spend less. That, or eliminate $1 chips altogether. It's happened before. That's why it's so hard to find clay fractional chips, they just aren't being made and used anymore (for the most part).

 

[Darthhoodie]

Not sure about this but the casinos near me( Foxwoods, Mohegan Sun, Twin River, Encore) all use clay Paulson chips.
Would like to see some data on the percentage of clay vs plastic in US casinos. I haven't been to Vegas in a while but last time I went I don't think I went anywhere that didn't use clay. Maybe someone who has been recently can speak to this. Kind of sad to think about a world without clay poker chips.

 

[upNdown]

I wouldn't be surprised if they’re gone within a decade, and I would be surprised if they're not gone within two. With the RFID and other technologies that we have today, the idea that chips need to by physically unique to be secure is kind of laughable. (Which I think has been the biggest selling point for Paulson over the last 50 years?)
If they’re actually concerned about security I’m pretty sure they can put a chip in a plastic ship for really cheap these days.

And how much longer are casinos going to be using chips at all? If they continue to use chips in the future, I’m betting it would be as a table token, like roulette chips, which can be exchanged for digital cash before you leave the table. I mean Christ, paper checks have been pretty dead for a while now; why would we think casinos will continue to use cheques?

 

[Darthhoodie]

 

[TheYeti]

Silver lining...? If casinos stop buying Paulsons, maybe they would open up sales to the public again.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Chips also serve the purpose of forgetting your gambling w cash. Not sure what alternative option you could go with.

 

[nosediceochate]

just make sure the children get hooked as well, otherwise is gg

 

[Jimulacrum]

The real question is at what point in the decline of clay casino chips Paulson will open its business back up to the home-game market.

 

[Sparkynutz]

I wouldn't be surprised if they’re gone within a decade, and I would be surprised if they're not gone within two. With the RFID and other technologies that we have today, the idea that chips need to by physically unique to be secure is kind of laughable. (Which I think has been the biggest selling point for Paulson over the last 50 years?)
If they’re actually concerned about security I’m pretty sure they can put a chip in a plastic ship for really cheap these days.

And how much longer are casinos going to be using chips at all? If they continue to use chips in the future, I’m betting it would be as a table token, like roulette chips, which can be exchanged for digital cash before you leave the table. I mean Christ, paper checks have been pretty dead for a while now; why would we think casinos will continue to use cheques?

I can see chips turning to something like a hotel room key but chip form. Scannable and all digital transactions linked to the chip. Voice activated transactions. I raise 25 etc.
Maybe a digital readout if really fancy but most likely just displayed somehow when placed near the display at a table, machine etc.

 

[doublebooyah85]

I can see chips turning to something like a hotel room key but chip form. Scannable and all digital transactions linked to the chip.
Maybe a digital readout if really fancy but most likely just displayed somehow when placed near the display at a table, machine etc.

Hmmm I think seeing your total bankroll isn’t ideal.

 

[upNdown]

The real question is at what point in the decline of clay casino chips Paulson will open its business back up to the home-game market.

Probably right about the point where they downscale operations so significantly that you can choose from 8 colors and 10 spot patterns on some mold that we all hate.

 

[Taghkanic]

When a $1 chip cost more than $1 to have made, they're going to look to spend less.

Agreeing with the rest of your reply, I don’t get the logic of the above.

The price of manufacturing a low-denom chip compared to its face value should not really matter… because that chip earne the casino far more than $1 over its lifespan.

As a common medium of rake and tips, it earns its keep more than high denoms. The lowly $1 may help the casino take money off the table more than any other chip.

If every mint $1 chip were getting harvested the instant it first hit a rack, then the casino would lose money on its manufacture. But I’d bet the percentage harvested is far below 1%.

IDGI

 

[ekricket]

I can see chips turning to something like a hotel room key but chip form. Scannable and all digital transactions linked to the chip. Voice activated transactions. I raise 25 etc.
Maybe a digital readout if really fancy but most likely just displayed somehow when placed near the display at a table, machine etc.

It would have to be easier than chips to make bets, call, raise, or splits, or tips, or paying the rake in an inconspicuous manner. Chips facilitate all those things. The material may change, and Paulson may have to come down to competitive prices, or maybe CPC buys their chip production business.
There’s always a struggle between function and form. Function wins until it’s too sparse, then Form takes over as people want more “experience” than just the basic. Then a new idea on how to save money is conceived, and Form is diluted into Function, etc….

 

[Taghkanic]

Silver lining...? If casinos stop buying Paulsons, maybe they would open up sales to the public again Jim @TheChipRoom will become a billionaire.

FYP

 

[surfik]

Golden Nugget 1s....how the mighty fallen

 

[buzzmonkey]

Not sure about this but the casinos near me( Foxwoods, Mohegan Sun, Twin River, Encore) all use clay Paulson chips.
Would like to see some data on the percentage of clay vs plastic in US casinos. I haven't been to Vegas in a while but last time I went I don't think I went anywhere that didn't use clay. Maybe someone who was been recently can speak to this. Kind of sad to think about a world without clay poker chips.

Cheap chips and a fake Native American. This country really has gone to hell. lol

 

[Phoe9x]

In most of the California casinos they use those shitty plastic chips. You would think with a $7 drop on every poker hand and $1 required bet to even play half of the table games they would have enough money to afford decent clay chips.

 

[chippitydoodah]

Agreeing with the rest of your reply, I don’t get the logic of the above.

The price of manufacturing a low-denom chip compared to its face value should not really matter… because that chip earne the casino far more than $1 over its lifespan.

As a common medium of rake and tips, it earns its keep more than high denoms. The lowly $1 may help the casino take money off the table more than any other chip.

If every mint $1 chip were getting harvested the instant it first hit a rack, then the casino would lose money on its manufacture. But I’d bet the percentage harvested is far below 1%.

IDGI

A chip is a unit whether it leaves the casino or not.

 

[jamesjkim]

In most of the California casinos they use those shitty plastic chips. You would think with a $7 drop on every poker hand and $1 required bet to even play half of the table games they would have enough money to afford decent clay chips.

If you’re referring to Bud Jones chips, I have to respectfully disagree. Sure, they’re not Paulson clay, but I very much enjoy premium plastics over ceramics.

 

[Annorax]

I too prefer Bud Jones over ceramics.

 

[allforcharity]

I too prefer Bud Jones over ceramics.

I would just further qualify this by saying "higher end Bud Jones" plastics because the older publicly available suits mold plastics were really not good.