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Largest Main Event ever (1 Viewer)
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HughDrackman
3 of a Kind
That is quite the pay jump between 2nd and 1st!
I’ve been watching Dnegs and Lexy Gavin’s vlogs, and they’ve both been getting beat up. I’m glad to see Pokerface Ash doing so well, though. Playing in the main event is on my bucket list, but with that many people, it’s akin to buying a $10,000 lotto ticket.
I’ve been watching Dnegs and Lexy Gavin’s vlogs, and they’ve both been getting beat up. I’m glad to see Pokerface Ash doing so well, though. Playing in the main event is on my bucket list, but with that many people, it’s akin to buying a $10,000 lotto ticket.
Any idea how many of those 10043 entries are rebuys?
I always recommend people who haven't been before to try the Monster Stack, it gives the best overall WSOP experience in my opinion...
$1500 buy-in is in that sweet spot, not too small, but not too big, and it used to be a freeze out, now you can only re-enter Day 1B if you bust 1A, as I did this year....so it's not a multiple re-entry 'fiasco'.....like Colossus or whatever....
1 Hour levels make it a much better structure overall
50,000 starting stack with the blinds similar to the ME makes it very good (ME gets 60,000 starting and 2 hr levels, but structure is almost identical....)
And finally they usually hit around $1 million for 1st, so still a very decent payout, obviously not $12 million, but I would take it....
Anyway, I've been playing in the WSOP since 2006, so I've seen quite a bit....
Should be none......... The ME is a freeze out, 1 and done..... Unless you're thinking people sneak in somehow....??
Frogzilla
Straight Flush
Any PCF’ers to root for on day 3?
The card capper they handed out on day 2 to commemorate the largest field ever looks cool
The card capper they handed out on day 2 to commemorate the largest field ever looks cool
i originally thought it was a blatant attempt to make it the largest 1st place prize in history, but that jump is actually less than 2006. still way more top heavy though.
| 1st | Jamie Gold | $12,000,000 |
| 2nd | Paul Wasicka | $6,102,499 |
| 3rd | Michael Binger | $4,123,310 |
| 4th | Allen Cunningham | $3,628,513 |
| 5th | Rhett Butler | $3,216,182 |
| 6th | Richard Lee | $2,803,851 |
| 7th | Douglas Kim | $2,391,520 |
| 8th | Erik Friberg | $1,979,189 |
| 9th | Dan Nassif | $1,566,858 |
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Oh I didn’t know that. I just assumed someone could do multiple day 1s to try to hit day 2.
I always recommend people who haven't been before to try the Monster Stack, it gives the best overall WSOP experience in my opinion...
$1500 buy-in is in that sweet spot, not too small, but not too big, and it used to be a freeze out, now you can only re-enter Day 1B if you bust 1A, as I did this year....so it's not a multiple re-entry 'fiasco'.....like Colossus or whatever....
1 Hour levels make it a much better structure overall
50,000 starting stack with the blinds similar to the ME makes it very good (ME gets 60,000 starting and 2 hr levels, but structure is almost identical....)
And finally they usually hit around $1 million for 1st, so still a very decent payout, obviously not $12 million, but I would take it....
Anyway, I've been playing in the WSOP since 2006, so I've seen quite a bit....
I really enjoyed the 2 day structure of the $800 and $500 events this year. 30-40k starting stacks and 30 min levels kept things interesting without wasting an absurd amount of time for nothing or next to nothing.
I like the pay jump. Really puts some incentive between first and second (unless the players agree to chop the money or something beforehand). Hopefully it discourages random all in play like Luckbox Cada vs Darvin Moon.
Yup, I like the big jump. I'm much more used to tournaments with a big jump from second to first.
And for what it's worth, for the WSOP, regardless of the payouts, the Player of the Year points seem to double from second place to first place. Wins are supposed to be worth a lot.
Adjusting for inflation, that $10k buy-in today is only $6,628 compared to 2006. Not nearly the hit it was.
Amazingly $10k in 1972 is $72,757 today. Those early players paid a fortune to enter.
Amazingly $10k in 1972 is $72,757 today. Those early players paid a fortune to enter.
The fields and players for those early main events is probably similar to super high roller or one drop today.
From Wikipedia, 1972 the first year, 12 people were supposed to play but due to more attractive cash games, only 8 played.
Amazing to think the WSOP as a single table sit-n-go.
Amazing to think the WSOP as a single table sit-n-go.
Venturalvn
Full House
Just a simple 2 outer for ~ $4 mil in EV. NO big deal...
Marc Hedrick
3 of a Kind
I've always been dumbfounded by these EV calculations. The numbers always seem too high. How is there a 4 million dollar EV pot when that's 3rd place money with 14 left. I don't get it.
I can’t get my mind around outlasting 8,000 people and still only 5x’ing my buyin
I know the win is important. But you really have to enjoy the journey. (I do not enjoy an 8+day journey.)
doctorchips
Pair
The payout structure seems pretty brutal.
Frogzilla
Straight Flush
It probably came from an ICM calculator I think? Generally that calculator estimates probability of finishing; multiples by payout structure, voila EV. (its probability of 1st times 1st place prize + probability of 2nd times 2nd place prize etc). Most ICM calculators have no adjustments for things like big stack leverage advantage, positional matchups etc but it’s a good starting point. Chip leader stacks are worth more than ICM generally though and middle stacks are worth less.
And yes you’re in a vast majority where your intuition underestimates stack value.
doctorchips
Pair
Really good final table so far.
Frogzilla
Straight Flush
Looks like a great day for the Americans who managed to survive past all six Euros. They’re deep stacked headed into tonight, just over 100bb avg stack. Glad they played an extra 30-40 min yesterday going down to 3 instead of 4 because it could be a long one.
doctorchips
Pair
Jachtmann blew up in the last 30 min of that table. All in KJo with like 25bb out of position and runs into AA. Ouch.
Frogzilla
Straight Flush
he was active and he was getting coolered. I didn’t see any errors. The squeeze shove from KQo from BB is fine against active CO open and BU flat just really unlucky that BU was trapping AA. I think that was at least 3rd maybe 4th time BU had flatted pre, it’s a wide range.
It also looks like from body language that the Americans might have made some swaps but didn’t see any suspicious collusion hands. I was looking for it but they played standard.
doctorchips
Pair
I didn't pick up on any collusion at all.
He did run poorly in the last 4-5 hands he had. Personally, I'm not jamming KQo at the final table with more than 20bb, but I'm also not a GTO/ICM master so maybe there is a legitimate case to be made for that play.
doctorchips
Pair
What are the chances that these guys made a 3-way deal at 7.33 million each?
FDLmold
Royal Flush
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Marc Hedrick
3 of a Kind
Almost zero. Not sure what the penalties are for an agreed chop, but without looking it up I assume disqualification from the tournament would be high on the list. Doesn't seem worth it if you already have four million locked up.
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