Milano / Modiano (1 Viewer)

[Stibnite]

They have arrived. We are thrilled.

Next project is oiling spree.

 

[CraigT78]

I've found that a wipe down with a damp (not soaking) dish rag with warm soapy water does wonders for removing the China stink that comes with those. Apply oil after the wipe down, or the smell lingers for weeks. Enjoy the chips!

 

[tj7885]

great chips! We play with modianos and milanos every week

 

[Stibnite]

We actually love the smell. Smells like natural clay.

 

[Psypher1000]

Careful w/the oil there, boss. The CC chips don't absorb the oil nearly as well as Paulsons. Definitely do what Craig says - wipe'em down with a wet rag first. Even if you like the smell, this will help to remove some of the dust from the chips. Once they're dried, then if you still really want to oil them, use a LIGHT, light coating. Less is more here. If you put on too much, you may find yourself giving them all a bath and starting from scratch (and you wouldn't be the first person on PCF to find themselves in that exact position, either).

 

[Stibnite]

Careful w/the oil there, boss. The CC chips don't absorb the oil nearly as well as Paulsons. Definitely do what Craig says - wipe'em down with a wet rag first. Even if you like the smell, this will help to remove some of the dust from the chips. Once they're dried, then if you still really want to oil them, use a LIGHT, light coating. Less is more here. If you put on too much, you may find yourself giving them all a bath and starting from scratch (and you wouldn't be the first person on PCF to find themselves in that exact position, either).

Thanks, that is how I was approaching it. Someone already explained that to me, and I watched a youtube tutorial showing the difference. I will definitely be following those protocols.

I do very little without thoroughly researching or asking lots of questions.

 

[Ellasdaddy]

More power to you. I couldn't deal with the smell for long before I got the baby oil with fragrance out.

 

[Stibnite]

They definitely smell, but it's just not unpleasant for me. I've made a lot of clay vessels over the years, so I guess it is just a common odor.

Don't care whether or not it is there, but I will still probably work to remove it in case visitors are offended. Plus, as stated above, once I clean them, it'll probably fix itself.

Can't wait to see the final outcome. Of course my kids are out of town for a week, so I gotta wait to use them. I know they'll want to be the first to break them in.

 

[Ellasdaddy]

They're gonna look sparkling. My daughter loved playing with them.

 

[Trihonda]

I love the Milanos.

Great setup!

Can I ask where you snagged them? Also, what is your game format?

Yours Looks like the standard "assortment" of denoms that comes with a 1000 chip set. Little late for this go around, but there are vendors that allow you to pick and choose the amounts to better suit your game/setup.

I love the Milano blue colors, but find that the $50 denom fairly worthless. A general chip denom rule of thumb is to have the denoms 4-5x the value of the chips before them. Otherwise you don't get as much bang for your buck, and having chips 2x the value of the lower denom doesn't always "play" well...

Standard can progression for instance .25/1/5/25/100 etc... When people introduce a $10 or $50 chip, it's a sign they're newish to chipping. When I play at a few of my neighborhood games, they often insert unecessary chips into the starting stacks. These just clog up the game.

There are some rare cases, where folks use 10/50 chips in their custom set denoms, but these folks are doing so for specific reasons, and these sets seem to work ok... But it's the exception.

 

[CLKin]

I love the Modiano's! Favorite card to play with....see the av....

 

[keshaldra]

More power to you. I couldn't deal with the smell for long before I got the baby oil with fragrance out.

I killed two birds and used eucalyptus oil. I guess, technically three birds....apparently eucalyptus has an anti-microbial effect as well.

 

[Stibnite]

I love the Milanos.

Great setup!

Can I ask where you snagged them? Also, what is your game format?

Yours Looks like the standard "assortment" of denoms that comes with a 1000 chip set. Little late for this go around, but there are vendors that allow you to pick and choose the amounts to better suit your game/setup.

I love the Milano blue colors, but find that the $50 denom fairly worthless. A general chip denom rule of thumb is to have the denoms 4-5x the value of the chips before them. Otherwise you don't get as much bang for your buck, and having chips 2x the value of the lower denom doesn't always "play" well...

Standard can progression for instance .25/1/5/25/100 etc... When people introduce a $10 or $50 chip, it's a sign they're newish to chipping. When I play at a few of my neighborhood games, they often insert unecessary chips into the starting stacks. These just clog up the game.

There are some rare cases, where folks use 10/50 chips in their custom set denoms, but these folks are doing so for specific reasons, and these sets seem to work ok... But it's the exception.

Yeah, denom progression is important. Same reason I have no use for the 10k chip other than simply having it.

I did get the 50, only because of a certain tourney style where the first rounds have a 50 ante.

Outside of that, the $10 chips look like a much nicer blue to me than the stock 50s, so I intend to get those as blanks and make them into a 25000 chip with a custom label.

I got mine from pokerchipmania.com. Very fast shipping, best price, and wrapped and shipped very professionally. Highly recommend from me.

As for format, cash games are simple. 1/5/25/100.

Then, a few variable tournament styles which will utilize the higher denoms. In fact, I'm planning on getting some plaques made for the much higher denoms.

 

[Trihonda]

I got my first Milanos from PCM too. Highly recommended.. Even tho the owner is a Vikings fan. Meh.

I might advise some caution in using the same set for both cash and tourney play. Not that your crew is untrustworthy, but simple game security instills confidence. Only exception is if the denoms will NEVER see both formats. I sold off all my Milano cash chips for that very reason.

 

[Stibnite]

I got my first Milanos from PCM too. Highly recommended.. Even tho the owner is a Vikings fan. Meh.

I might advise some caution in using the same set for both cash and tourney play. Not that your crew is untrustworthy, but simple game security instills confidence. Only exception is if the denoms will NEVER see both formats. I sold off all my Milano cash chips for that very reason.

Correct, they won't be seeing both formats. The 4 cash chips will never see tourney play.

Although, that said, this is just the beginning of my collecting--of which I am the traditional sort. I'll be starting my search for other sets as well for both show and alternative purposes.

 

[Wils]

There are some rare cases, where folks use 10/50 chips in their custom set denoms, but these folks are doing so for specific reasons, and these sets seem to work ok... But it's the exception.

I'd love to see tourney chip progressions standardised to:

1
5
25
100
500
2,500
10,000 etc

Here's to the 2.5k chip!

 

[mummel]

Im so jealous. I love new chips. Oiling is half the fun so take it slow in front of the TV. I oiled my Milanos from the get go, no wet rag. They came out perfect. But go light on the oil and keep the oil away from the label. I left them sit for 2 days, turned them over, then another 2 days. No rush at all. Then I wiped them down with a dry towel. At first they will feel too slippery, nearly plasticky like, but once you wear them in, they will sort of return to that clay type texture. The non oiled powdery texture felt the best, but the pop in the colors outweighs that.

The black $100s pop the most. I love that chip.

 

[Trihonda]

I'd love to see tourney chip progressions standardised to:

1
5
25
100
500
2,500
10,000 etc

Here's to the 2.5k chip!

Or even a 2k chip. I am a huge fan of this, but wrestled with my Fat Tire customs. I eventually went with a 1k chip due to consistency with local casino and other established tourneys. I almost wish I'd done the 2k chip instead.

 

[Stibnite]

Im so jealous. I love new chips. Oiling is half the fun so take it slow in front of the TV. I oiled my Milanos from the get go, no wet rag. They came out perfect. But go light on the oil and keep the oil away from the label. I left them sit for 2 days, turned them over, then another 2 days. No rush at all. Then I wiped them down with a dry towel. At first they will feel too slippery, nearly plasticky like, but once you wear them in, they will sort of return to that clay type texture. The non oiled powdery texture felt the best, but the pop in the colors outweighs that.

The black $100s pop the most. I love that chip.

I soap and wateres them last night. No oil yet, and they already look fantastic.

Im undecided on what oil i want to use yet. But hope to figure that out soon.

 

[mummel]

Mineral oil at target.

 

[Stibnite]

Which one is the best?

 

[mummel]

 

[Stibnite]

I went with JJ Baby Oil.

Finished cleaning my 1000 chips last night.

Did various sample oiling methods.

It would seem everything from a simple wipe down with light oil to a full dip and wipe off gives the exact same results. Now, I am letting some sit per other instructions I've read with oil being allowed to dry and see if that makes a difference with CC.

Otherwise, so far, it seems a quick wiping of these is more than sufficient to make a difference. Some sample photos thus far:


First is no oil--just the soapy water wipe down comparison. Here the stock $25 tray on left, and clean chips on the right. For most people, this is probably good enough. Time duration for initial chip cleaning was 12-15 minutes per rack of 100 wiping down each chip individuallly. That included me popping off some factory debris I found occasionally. Side note: most chips were near flawless from 1-1K, but the 5k and 10k chips were sloppy. Smudges, missing or overlapping colors, etc. Guess these don't sell often, so the batch I got of 5k-10k doesn't compare with the quality of the others--perhaps an older, less QCI set from earlier stages.

Here is a stock rack next to a clean rack of $5. In addition, there are 2 chips which were oiled sitting in the clean rack. One was dipped and soaked for 15 minutes. Other was wiped with very little oil on a microfiber cloth. Both look the same on the edges, and the only difference is the dipped one looks a "fraction" more uniform. The difference is so small, you can't tell unless you search for the little smudges on the face of the wiped one. Can you find the 2 oiled chips?

This photo shows cleaned black 100s next to oiled ones. I used 3 different methods of instant oiling here, and 2 methods of dipping with an instant dip and a 15 minute soaking. Can you tell the difference? So far Milanos benefit about the same from any method of oiling. The next test, only time will tell. I will be comparing the differences between letting oil dry in the chip as opposed to oiling and drying the chip. We will get to see which works best with Milanos.

 

[mummel]

Nice test results TY. Yeah oiling Milanos is definitely the way to go.

 

[12thMan]

Looks great!!

I have found that all chips just need a quick and light wipe down with oil. It absorbs what it is going to absorb very quickly and it doesn't take much. The last rack of chips I did I would just put a little drop or two of oil in my palms and rub my hands together, then take hand fulls of chips and just kind of work them in my hands running my fingers over the edges, then I would throw them on a towel.

Clay chips are oil magnets, take a half barrel of new, chalky Paulsons and shuffle them for twenty minutes with nothing on your hands then look at them compared to the rest of the barrel.


Love Milanos, I think they are one of the top china clays in a very tight race with Pharaohs.

 

[Stibnite]

The oiled chips shown above, the oil wasnt allowed to dry, but was all wiped and removed with a microfiber cloth--leaving the clear matte finish above.

I am going to guess that the drying it on method adds a little shine. We will know in a few hours.

 

[mummel]

Love the Milanos!!!

 

[Stibnite]

Ok, the result is interesting.

ALL of the chips I oiled yesterday, and wiped off, lost their shine after 24 hours. Now, they look no different than the cleaned ones.

However, the chips which were lightly oiled and NOT dryed off and allowed to air dry have not just maintained their oily shine, they are dried off and do not need to be wiped off.

Oil did not stick or dry onto the stickers and wiped away at a touch. No apparent damage to the stickers.

Final conclusion:

Step 1) Clean chips from the factory dust. Water with a few drops of dawn dish liquid worked fine for me.

Step 2) Apply oil and let air dry for 12-24 hours.

Step 3) Wipe excess oil off of sticker. Admire and play.

Was a fun experiment.

All tutorials suggesting wiping off excess oil after oiling were plain wrong. Maybe that works with Paulsons, but China Clays, the oil needs to air dry to seal in and shine.


Next day, the only one you can tell is oiled is the single air dryed method. I guess the rest evaporated. Can you see the only one standing out still?

 

[Trihonda]

I'd exercise some caution allowing a labeled chip to soak in ANY liquid for 15 minutes... These are stickers, and stickers that are prone to coming off from time to time. Usually a quick dunk will suffice.

I've oiled 1000's of Milanos. I had a very large set at one point (3,500). Now I only have around 2000 of them. I never had any trouble with them losing their sheen so quickly. After a time they do dry out, but I found that playing with them will re-oil them naturally, and a simple wipe down of the rolling edges of each barrel with a very lightly oil soaked rag will quickly bring them back too.

 

[Stibnite]

Yes, it was more of a test between oil and wipe, and oil and let air dry.

I didnt leave oil puddled on the sticker for the above reason. I wiped it away before letting them dry, but there was still a little I had missed and it didn't dry or cause any damage.

Pretty sure leaving it puddled, though, would cause it to get under the sticker.