Need Help From The Math Folks on BBJ (1 Viewer)

[Anthony Martino]

Need some help from the math folks on this one. The Lodge has a massive bad beat that's over 230K and growing daily by 1K

To win the BBJ you have to lose with the following (must use exactly two hole cards)

Hold Em - quad 10's or better
Omaha - Straight flush (must be flopped)
Big O - 9-high straight flush (must be flopped)

You can be counterfietted (and it's already happened once). So we had someone flop a King-high SF and another the bottom end, only to have the Ace of the suit arrive on the river, fouling the BBJ hand.

I've got a group of players trying to get a fixed-limit game going (probably 5/10) and just trying to see what our best game(s) to play are

I need to verify, but assuming if we tried to play 5-card high-only Omaha that it would require the 9-high straight flush beaten (having that for Big O with the hi/lo split element seems pretty silly since the middle cards aren't generally played)

So should we play

limit hold em
limit 4-card omaha high only
limit 5-card omaha high only?

 

[DrStrange]

Or - - - should you even bother making a special effort to win the BBJ?

Let's say there are eight of you chopping $240K - that is $30k per person pretax or ~$24K post tax. Only you guys can decide what the opportunity cost for your time is. By definition the cumulative income from playing is negative ---> the time charge plus any other fee - the wins and losses average out unless you win the BBJ. < to be sure, some folks will win while other lose vs each other > It isn't even obvious that this is profitable at all but see below.

One possibility is to go full degenerate, never even playing a full hand for hours and hours. for example: in the BigO game there are almost no flops that could qualify for the bad beat. If everyone agrees to fold every hand that can't make the bad beat - so folding all flops that aren't qualifying. The group might be seeing a hundred hands per hour. It might be considered against the rules, best to check and see. The dealers aren't going to like being stiffed for tips - the team will need to pay something for the dealer's time while they don't play poker but rather mine for the BBJ.

The math depends greatly on how hard the team games the promotion and how far the house will let you go. Are you even trying to play poker? Is there a plan to chop win/losses?

Might be more profitable to take a job at Walmart. Most often, the group pours in many hours only to get less than nothing back.