New Here, Paulson FLV Questions (2 Viewers)

[Lee I.]

Hey there. I'm new here after someone suggested I come here to post about selling some Paulson Fabulous Las Vegas chips I have that are in perfect condition. Just wondering what makes these so valuable? Are they considered custom chips? I'm a little clueless but do know they are worth a decent amount! Thanks for the help.

 

[Jeff]

edited my post. Not wading into this pond.

 

[Lee I.]

I posted quantities and pictures! I have no idea why they didn't show up. I'm so sorry. New here, like I said. LOL. I will try to edit and add. Here they are though.

.50 chips - 25 total
$1 chips - 150 total
$5 chips - 150 total
$25 chips - 25 total

 

[Lee I.]

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[Lee I.]

And if I'm being honest, I'm told they could be worth $3 to $4 a chip... Especially the $1 chips.

 

[jbutler]

And if I'm being honest, I'm told they could be worth $3 to $4 a chip... Especially the $1 chips.

While you're being honest, are these the chips that were listed previously on Craigslist and which someone agreed to buy at your advertised price before you reneged and decided to come see how much you could get here?

 

[Lee I.]

While you're being honest, are these the chips that were listed previously on Craigslist and which someone agreed to buy at your advertised price before you reneged and decided to come see how much you could get here?

Yeah I just posted on his post that I admitted it was me. I have nothing to hide. I contacted a few people who are interested in buying and the first thing I told them was that I did that. I made a mistake. Would you sleep well at night knowing you listed your 1961 Chateau Lafite bottle of wine for $100 when it's worth $1000? It's not like I took the guy's money. I refunded his ultra fast paypal payment immediately. And I told him straight up about why I was doing it. I didn't lie.

 

[Jeff]

Welcome to PCF and good luck with your sale.

Edited.

 

[Lee I.]

Then I think you should list them at $4 a chip then if you think that's what they're worth.

Just giving you my two cents. I don't have a set of them, and this set is not enough to play with, so you're either selling them to someone building on the chips they already have or someone who wants to label 160 nice blue chips for another set. I got my number because I have a set of the Viva Las Vegas chips and I paid between .70 and 1.60 per rack for another one of these thinly traded sets and I figured you auction them to get the maximum price.

Welcome to PCF and good luck with your sale

And I know $4 a chip is pushing it.

 

[BGinGA]

I refunded his ultra fast paypal payment immediately.

That's about as a douche move as you could make. A deal is a deal. I hope you choke on 'em.

 

[Kyle]

Intrested in the $1's and $25's. Welcome to PCF. I am from Centennial CO and would by in person if you are selling them.

Let me know.

 

[ssanel54]

Welcome to PCF. I don't know any of the background story. You have some nice chips but they are not Chateau Lafite. These are home paulsons, and although they are somewhat rare, they aren't really considered collectable. Given that you have you have a small set and not the best breakdown for playability, your pool of buyers will most likely consist of others who own these chips and want to add on, or someone who is looking to put custom labels on them.

The way pricing usually works is that you may be able to sell a rack or a single denomination for $3-4 per chip, but then the other chips will decrease in value as they are no longer a set. I would guesstimate you could sell them all for $1.50 - $2.50 per chip?

Good luck.

 

[jbutler]

Yeah I just posted on his post that I admitted it was me. I have nothing to hide. I contacted a few people who are interested in buying and the first thing I told them was that I did that. I made a mistake. Would you sleep well at night knowing you listed your 1961 Chateau Lafite bottle of wine for $100 when it's worth $1000? It's not like I took the guy's money. I refunded his ultra fast paypal payment immediately. And I told him straight up about why I was doing it. I didn't lie.

Yes, I would sleep just fine. The onus is on the seller to investigate the value of his own product before he advertises the sales price imo. You are selling within a very small community. People will (or should at least) remember how you handled your first transaction and be guided in dealing with you going forward.

If you have any interest in the actual hobby or in chips generally, the best thing to do imo would be to honor whatever price was originally agreed upon. If you don't have any interest in the community apart from this sale, feel free to burn whatever bridges are necessary to get whatever price you think necessary. I would guess you'll get something in the range of $450 to $800 for your chips depending on who here is interested. I hope your sense of business ethics is worth whatever the difference is between that and the price you originally negotiated.

 

[Ronoh]

I remember a story about some little old lady who listed a bunch of figurines on eBay. One was a butterfly something or other that she listed BIN for like twenty bucks. It was immediately bought and just as quickly she received tons of messages from people telling her it was worth like twenty grand.

She did not send it to the $20 buyer.

Who is the asshat? Her for not sending it to the guy or the guy who attempted (and failed) to acquire it through legal channels at the $20 price point?

Some of you are a tad bit high and mighty in my opinion... no need to make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[BGinGA]

Who's to say that the guy trying to buy it had any idea of its worth either?

Not a matter of high and mighty, in my opinion. It's a matter of ethics on the part of the seller (who has none). His agreed word is shit.

 

[stocky]

I remember a story about some little old lady who listed a bunch of figurines on eBay. One was a butterfly something or other that she listed BIN for like twenty bucks. It was immediately bought and just as quickly she received tons of messages from people telling her it was worth like twenty grand.

She did not send it to the $20 buyer.

Who is the asshat? Her for not sending it to the guy or the guy who attempted (and failed) to acquire it through legal channels at the $20 price point?

Some of you are a tad bit high and mighty in my opinion... no need to make a mountain out of a molehill.

BAN ALL LITTLE OLD LADIES!!!!!!

 

[jbutler]

I remember a story about some little old lady who listed a bunch of figurines on eBay. One was a butterfly something or other that she listed BIN for like twenty bucks. It was immediately bought and just as quickly she received tons of messages from people telling her it was worth like twenty grand.

She did not send it to the $20 buyer.

Who is the asshat? Her for not sending it to the guy or the guy who attempted (and failed) to acquire it through legal channels at the $20 price point?

Some of you are a tad bit high and mighty in my opinion... no need to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Not quite the same thing. If it's a matter of thousands of dollars, that's a different scenario imo. If it's a matter of a couple hundred dollars, it's just a dick move.

 

[Ronoh]

Not quite the same thing. If it's a matter of thousands of dollars, that's a different scenario imo. If it's a matter of a couple hundred dollars, it's just a dick move.

From an ethics standpoint I'm not quite understanding the difference?

 

[Weckedy]

From an ethics standpoint I'm not quite understanding the difference?

Couple of extras Zero makes a difference i guess.

 

[stocky]

Remember that the buyer is also taking a risk here that an unknown will follow through and send the chips or that the chips are not stolen. What is this risk worth compared to the actual perceived value?

 

[jbutler]

From an ethics standpoint I'm not quite understanding the difference?

Couple of extras Zero makes a difference i guess.

Yes, they do. Principles of ethics are informed by real world impact. The real world impact of a couple thousand dollars in the vast majority of circumstances will make a much bigger difference than a couple hundred dollars.

 

[Tommy]

Hundreds of dollars can be a lot of money to someone less fortunate.

 

[ssanel54]

@Lee I.

Simple solution would be to honor your initial sale, and now that you are a new PCF member, enter raffle here: http://www.pokerchipforum.com/threa...fs-birthday-giveaway.10569/page-2#post-154790

If you win one of the prizes, you can then list them on CL and recoup the delta.

 

[Ronoh]

Yes, they do. Principles of ethics are informed by real world impact. The real world impact of a couple thousand dollars in the vast majority of circumstances will make a much bigger difference than a couple hundred dollars.

So you're saying what he did would be perfectly fine if the value had crossed an imaginary line that everyone is going to assign a different variable to. You say it's okay for a couple grand but not for a few hundred... someone else would say it's fine for five figures but not for a couple grand. Everything is relative, no need to make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[jbutler]

Hundreds of dollars can be a lot of money to someone less fortunate.

Yeah, hence:

The real world impact of a couple thousand dollars in the vast majority of circumstances will make a much bigger difference than a couple hundred dollars.

So you're saying what he did would be perfectly fine if the value had crossed an imaginary line that everyone is going to assign a different variable to. You say it's okay for a couple grand but not for a few hundred... someone else would say it's fine for five figures but not for a couple grand. Everything is relative, no need to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Everything is always relative. That doesn't mean everything is equally permitted.

 

[bergs]

Hundreds of dollars can be a lot of money to someone less fortunate.

Less fortunate people don't spent hundreds on poker chips.

 

[Lee I.]

Less fortunate people don't spent hundreds on poker chips.

My last post on the topic. I appreciate a little defense. And the one guy (BGinBA) going around posting about me being a douche and a piece of shit, thanks. Glad you know me and my 37 years of existence from a few posts in a few hours. And feel the need to take time out of your day to find every post I made and comment on it. I was just trying to get to 10 posts to list my chips. Turns out I don't need to.

By the way, I had them listed at $100 total. I have sold them now for $600 total and am ready to move on from this. It's not easy being told you're such a horrible human being when people don't know you. I brought it upon myself though and will try to make it right with the original buyer privately. I apologize for all that I caused. But thanks for letting me into the forum for today! Peace.

 

[DrStrange]

Kind of sad. I had hoped this would turn out relatively good like the John Boy story.

DrStrange

 

[BGinGA]

Unfortunately, no. Good riddance.

 

[Lee I.]

Unfortunately, no. Good riddance.

You too, cyber bully.