PAHWM - 10nl Blitz 89s on Button facing 3-bet from SB (1 Viewer)

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Not enough hands on villain for HUD to be relevant. Plus, I don't usually use my HUD anyway.

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Facing a smaller than typical 3 bet in this configuration, what should Hero do?
 
Could go either way. I assume it’s a mix between 4bet and flat with us flatting at least 75% of the time.
 
Part 2

At work so going to continue in text format.

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Hero calls.
Pot: 20.2bb
Eff stack: 194.5bb
Flop: :qs::3s::td:

Villain checks.
HERO?
 
Check and hope to pick up some equity on the turn.
 
Semi-buff bet 40% pot since the Villain check and hope we can steal the pot right away with a Gut-shot

If the V call, we prob should just check at turn unless we improve and take the free card
 
I think it is unlikely he X a pair (PP or made hand) here facing the FD unless he has a pair + FD (e.g. :as::ts:) which he plans to flat or raise.
I like betting 1/2 pot here and giving up if he calls and we dont improve.
 
I am going to put a bet in here as well. It just seems to be villain should be c-betting anything he could 3-bet pre with except for pocket pairs under 10. Two broadway cards probably call for a c-bet here (either having made a pair or gutshot with overs.) Any kind of combo draw (flush plus pair or flush plus gutshot) should be c-betting here as well.

I think this check is often a give up and really the opportunity for hero to steal this one. Also, I don't think we know if we even want to make the straight here. As tempting as the free pull may be, one of our outs completing a flush, not to mention all of them complete AK. (or K9 for that matter.) I think the only way to play this pot now is to steal it, and I don't think checking the flop tells any credible story that we outflopped two eights by the end unless we catch cards that further scare villain.

I say bet-fold if raised is the best line here. Low-risk high reward, and not a devastating fold if necessary given how bad this board is for us. If villain just flats, going to re evaluate whether or not to fire a second bluff on the turn. If called my perceived rage is still the pairs under ten, ten-x, and maybe a-hi gutshots that he decided not to c-bet for some reason.
 
Part 3

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Hero calls.
Pot: 20.2bb
Eff stack: 194.5bb
Flop: :qs: :3s: :td:

Villain checks.
HERO checks.

Pot: 20.2bb
Eff stack: 194.5bb
Turn: :qs::3s::td::tc:

Villain checks.
HERO?
 
This is where I take a stab at it. Bet half pot to charge any Spade draws, insta-fold to any check-raise
 
Part 4

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Hero calls.
Pot: 20.2bb
Eff stack: 194.5bb
Flop: :qs: :3s: :td:

Villain checks.
HERO checks.

Pot: 20.2bb
Eff stack: 194.5bb
Turn: :qs::3s::td::tc:

Villain checks.
Hero bets 10.5bb.
Villain thinks for a bit and calls.

Pot: 41.2bb
Eff Stack: 184bb
River: :qs::3s::td::tc::6s:

Villain checks.
HERO?
 
Well I guess what were we really representing by X flop and betting turn other than a T, and now the likelihood of a T is lower, or a steal attempt.
I dont think we have a Q here so even bombing it when the flush comes in could see a call given the action.
I think he has something like 88, 99 or JJ and we're not getting him to fold so sadly I'm just X here and giving up.
 
My first thought is to give it up, but I also wonder, could villain have KJ?

If we bluff at this, it's the only had that makes sense to target and get him to lay down. My instinct is villain has a pair and is stationing after the board paired. But I suppose if we check back maybe there is some air we could be shown that would fold to a bet.
 
Part 5 - Conclusion

Hero bets 33bb.
Villain folds.

I'm trying to figure out more spots to bluff without using a solver. I thought villain couldn't have AA or KK, and could only easily call with JJ and maybe 99. I on the other hand can have a lot of Qs and Ts and some flushes, though admittedly less Qs given the flop check back. So I just decided to go for it and see what happens.

Looking back at my notes. I also now realize I have the suits of the flop Q and turn T backwards.

So final board was actually:
:qc::3s::td::ts::6s:

I think this makes my line a bit more believable for the flush. And is probably what I was actually thinking.
 
My gut is that villain ended up having air with a suited ace, where a 10 and flushes are certainly in your calling range to a 3 bet in position.
 
I think a stab on the flop is good. We block a lot of the bluff 3Bs that hit or can call with draws with our 9 and 8 of clubs. I’m betting the turn but not because we have blockers to the Ten, because the Ten of clubs came out we don’t block T8s or T9s anymore.

Like the bet with on the river there. Card is much better for us.
 

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