PAHWM: 25NL @ Bovada (2 Viewers)

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Played a hand earlier tonight, thought I'd get some thoughts.

At a full ring table that is five-handed. I'm sitting on the button with $30.46. Folds to cutoff, who limps.

I look down at my cards and see :kd: :qd: .

Pot has $.60.

SB and BB are both sitting on $55+. Cutoff sitting on a full buy-in of $25.

Next?
 
KQs short handed, on the button is a good ---> excellent hand. Time for some aggression.

Make your standard sized raise / steal attempt. As I recall you make remarkable money from steal position(s). Maybe this time too.

Any reads on cutoff? Is he a regular who might want to snap off your expected steal attempt? Open limping five handed isn't commonly a winning strategy from good position. Not going to like getting limp-raised. KQs shrivels up vs a limp/three bet range. Position remains good though.

DrStrange
 
No real reads on the cutoff, and going back through the player, it actually wasn't a limp. It was a blind post for their first hand at the table.

I do make the raise to $1, which is my standard 3x, plus 1BB for the limper.

Big blind makes the call, the cutoff folds, and we go to the flop heads-up with $2.35 in the pot. Villain with $54.99 behind.

Flop: :4s::2d::qs:

Villain checks over to me.
 
Bet $1.50, BB has a pretty big range on what they could be playing, you have no blockers so hopefully no more spades come.
 
Other than the flush draw, this board is quite dry. Vision shouldn't have many straight draws here. And the only ones he would have are gutshots. Still, I think a downbet is not the best option. Need to protect a bit against A high gutters and flush draws.

I'd fire $1-1.50.
 
Definitely going to continue on this board. Feel pretty good about my hand, so I fire out $1.25 to make the pot $3.60.

Villain opts against calling, instead deciding to flex with the check raise to $4.50, making the pot $8.10.
 
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gotta hate that, it's possible BB could have called with something like 22,44,A4, or A2 or even 42 protecting his blind. Could also be on a flush draw

Wouldn't expect him to be holding a Q, Hard to tell with the BB and not having any clue what kind of player he is. I probably call i for npothing else to get a read on him for later.
 
Hit him back with another raise. He doesn't have you outkicked because AQ is an easy 3 bet preflop. If he has a set, good for him, but he can easily have a worse queen and he was checking to the raiser.

Make it somewhere around $9 - $10.50 and let's dance.
 
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He either has a set and there is nothing you can do or you have him dominated. come over the top.
 
You're not going to fold top 2 pair here (or are you?), and calling leaves you with less than a half pot bet left for the river. Get it all in now, and if he shows a low set then hope for a boat to sail by and prepare to rebuy. My guess at this point is pocket kings (this is online poker after all, and why would you be posting if you won the hand), which puts you behind even if you do boat up. But folding top 2 pr is a pretty big hero fold, and odds are that you have him dominated with the more likely AA or AK.

But then again I suck at online poker and the numerous unlikely winning hands that show up (got knocked out of a tournament yesterday when my AA all in preflop was called by 49s and the flop was 994).
 
Thinking more about this, what is V likely to have flatted PF, check raised on the flop, and led out with a pot size bet on the turn? KK is in range, but I would have expected some kind of action PF (unless V likes to slow play PF). Middle pair (55-TT) seems possible, as does AK, or even AsXs trying to buy the pot with a flush draw semi-bluff.
 
Call to flip x/r is good. No sense in raising back because you want to keep his bluffs in, and you have position.

Easy jam on the turn. It may end up being a cooler turn for you, but assuming villain has some flush draws or combo draws in his range, you can't fold. Given he just flatted pre, and that you have KQ, it is basically impossible for villain to show up with QQ or KK. So it's 22, 44, KQ as well, or a flush draw with our without a gutshot. We are ahead of that range, but just slightly.

If the stack depth was greater, then I could get behind a just call for pot control and to keep his bluffs in. But we are so shallow at this point that we don't want to be tempted to fold river for less than pot when a bad card hits.
 
Preflop suggests that BB does not have AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ in range and we block many of these combos.

X/R on flop suggests 22, 44 or FD maybe to the nuts (AXs) or maybe KXs or SCs. X/R with a set on a FD board makes sense as does a combo draw. Maybe KQo but that would be a wide X/R IMHO.

Turn play suggests that either turn doesn’t adversely impact V’s perceived chance of wining the hand (set) or it improves his hand (KsXs). Or he’s playing his draw aggressively as he doesn’t really otherwise have equity (AsXs, SCs).

So on the turn V’s range is polarized and bet size aligns with that:

22: 3 combos
44: 3 combos
KQo: 3 combos
AsXs: 9 combos excluding AKs and AQs
KsXs: 9 combos
SCs: 16 combos

So much, much more likely a FD than a set based on combos.

If V has a set (6 combos), we are behind with 4 outs (2K + 2Q) or 8% equity.
If V is on a draw (34 combos), we are ahead and V has about 8 outs to improve. In the case of AsXs or SCs Ks gives us a boat when V makes his flush.
We chop with 3 combos.

Hero has just under $25. Pot is about $22 I think facing an $11 bet. Calling leaves him $14 looking at a pot of about $33.

A raise wont get better hands (sets) to fold but I think it is likely the draws will call. Given the strength V has shown I dont think we have FE. Jamming is definitely an option here but I think it removes our positional advantage on the river and doesnt get us more money only higher variance. I think a jam gives V over 3:1 odds so he is calling (pot = $47, $14 to call). Is this what we want?

If we flat and V jams spade rivers we can fold (except on Ks) - so 16% of the time we save $14 vs a jam.
If we flat and V jams non-spade river we can call and lose to a set or bluff-catch. This is equivalent to us jamming with this river.
If we flat and V jams non-spade river we can fold. We save $14 vs a jam. Maybe V is bluffing but IMHO not likely at these stakes.
If we flat and V checks a non-spade river we can bet for value but V likely folds. In this case we leave $14 on the table versus a jam.

Honestly I know stacks arent deep but in position against a polarized range I'm flatting here as I dont think a jam has any FE and I want to play my position on the river. At these stakes on Ignition 85%+ of the time they have the set when they bet like this. I have jammed into the nuts too many times. My style is lower variance than jamming here ...

Edit: just put this in PokerSnowie and on turn Snowie jams 87% and calls 13% so a mixed strategy. Snowie calls jams on all rivers, 4x, 2x, even spades which IMHO is optimistic at these stakes. Probably owing to MDF. I would snap fold a spade river here given my experience on this site.
 
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Let’s finish it up.

I am not really sure what villain has here, but I sort of figure if I get got, I get got, and at this point I am living or dying with my hand.

I think for a bit, then wager all of my remaining chips in a single bet.

Villain doesn’t instacall, which makes me feel like I’m at least not dead in the water. Villain does decide to make the call.

River comes the :ts:.

Villain shows :4c::2c: for a flopped two pair.

I scoop the $60+ pot.

Since it is Bovada, there is no chat only chat hot keys, and villain decides to express himself by hot keying “hahaha” twice at the end of the hand. From what I’ve seen, people who do that probably aren’t really laughing, but usually attempting to mock the play of their opponent. That’s what it definitely felt like here.
 
Well played! Certainly didnt put that hand in his range.
X/R makes sense with the draw on the flop. Then when spades doesnt hit he blasts turn as well assuming he is still ahead!
He must have called your jam thinking you were on a spade draw or had a one pair hand.
 
I'd be making a note on that player that they are super wide. Then continue to bludgeon them with bets if you're involved in hands with them in the future.
 
The unfortunate thing about Bovada (or maybe fortunate?) is that the tables are anonymous, so no note taking possible.
 
42 isn't surprising to me, like I said earlier in the thread I see people protect BB with almost anything at that level.

regardless you played it right, IMO.
 
What about thoughts on villain’s defense to the button raise with that hand? Worth defending?


Not good enough to play in a cash game IMO but I see it all the time from BB. you have a lot of people who play cash games like they would a tournament and think "always defend your BB".
 
One of things I’ve been working on is reducing BB defense, but sometimes it’s hard not to play some speculative hands with nut potential when you’re getting 3 or 4 to 1. I’m working on it, though.
 

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