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I'm still relatively new to this community. What is everyone's thoughts on pirates gold chips? I got some samples when I was looking for a set a while back.

https://pirategoldpoker.com/pages/shop

Are they too gimmicky? I think I would hate playing with them. I'm keeping the samples and will use them for cars protectors, but don't think I would ever purchase an actual set.
 
Metal chips have always been a bad idea,

Mostly too heavy. Though I have seen some that were way too light. Rough enough to ding the cards and even the table top sometimes.

As a card protector, heavy is fine. Just not as chips.

Of course, old school poker with pocket change is a different matter. I have done that when an emergency poker game breaks out and we don't have any chips. Better as a limit solution though.
 
I see ads for these on FB and then read the comments about how they're the best chips people have ever played with.

Made me lose hope in humanity.
 
I see ads for these on FB and then read the comments about how they're the best chips people have ever played with.

Made me lose hope in humanity.
HAHA! I'm sure the reviews are bogus. I have been burned by FB ads in the past and try not to fall victim to them anymore. Although about once a year something inevitably piques my interest.
 
I just read a bunch of those Facebook reviews. A whole lot of the reviews say they’re great, except they don’t stack well.

In my opinion, poker chips only need to do two things - be distinguishable from one another and stack well. These do neither so they are garbage.
 
An ad for these just popped up on my Facebook feed so I decided to hop on over here to see if any of y'all had given them a try. I have zero doubt that this set would make for a poor experience during actual game play because the chips are very likely going to look too similar to each other from across a table. Plus in that older thread from a year ago it sounds like the items may be nowhere near as nice as they look in the photos... big shocker LOL. Although I will say that it looks like they have redone the dealer button to make it a lot more substantial than it was back in March 2023, so apparently they are listening to their customer feedback at least a tiny bit.

All in all, even though I am certainly not expecting to like these very much I just couldn't resist getting the sample set of all 4 "coins" for $7.42 including shipping just to satisfy my curiosity about them. I mean hell, if my worst impulse-buy of the week only cost $7.42 then that means I actually behaved for once. LOL
 
I received my samples of the "Pirate Gold Poker Chips" a couple of weeks ago and figured that I might as well post my thoughts on them. Just as I had predicted I think their cons outweigh their pros, I believe they'd be somewhat impractical to use during an actual game of poker, and so overall I'm not a huge fan.

As shown in the attached picture there are only 4 different coins or chips in this set which the manufacturer refers to as gold, silver, copper, and gunmetal. All of them are the standard poker chip size of 39 mm in diameter so they should fit in most chip racks or cases just fine. But at 2.5 mm thick these are noticeably thinner than typical chips which are 3.5 mm thick. I would therefore expect that each row in a rack should probably hold about 27-28 of these pirate chips rather than the typical 20 chip barrel that fits in a row with more "normal" chips. The copper and gunmetal chips both have holes in the center and weigh about 13 grams each, whereas the gold and silver chips do not have any hole and are therefore a bit heavier at approximately 15.6 grams each. And very importantly, please note that there are no denomination markings on any of the four chips, which could be seen as either a good thing or a bad thing depending on your preference. Just speaking personally, I tend to prefer chips that do have denominations clearly marked on them. But I can absolutely understand how chips without denominations might be a bit more versatile and so I won't consider that to be either a pro or a con.

Pros:

1. The chips certainly are "cool" looking. I think they did a pretty good job giving them a pirate/Caribbean/Mayan/Aztec type vibe.

2. They seem well made and since they are metal I'd expect that they will hold up fairly well over time. They do have quite a bit of texture on them though, which makes me wonder if they might get dirty pretty easily. But the good part is if they ever do get dirty then they should be extremely easy to clean with just a bit of dish soap and warm water. Heck, you might even be able to throw these guys in a dishwasher LOL. I mean you certainly don't have to worry about any labels coming off, nor would there be any fear of plastic or clay melting.

Cons:

1. I feel like the single biggest problem with these chips is that the four different types all look fairly similar to one another. There are the copper and gunmetal chips that have holes in the center, and then there are the gold and silver chips that have skulls in the center. But other than that they are basically all the exact same design. Yes they are technically four different colors, that's true of course. But those four colors aren't really radically different from each other like say white, red, blue, green, pink, etc. would be. Instead, these four are all fairly muted metallic colors and unfortunately they kind of all blend together in low lighting situations such that the two chips with holes become easy to mistake for each other and the two chips with skulls become easy to mistake for each other. I mean there is a darn good reason that standard poker sets differentiate between their various chips in multiple ways by coming in different colors, having differing edgespots, having denominations printed on them, and sometimes even having different artwork and/or label shapes on each chip (like Pharaoh's chips). But with these pirate chips it's really just center hole versus center skull and slightly different colors of metal. So if someone splashes the pot and chips go everywhere then you are going to have to pay very close attention to figure out what stakes are on the table.

2. Speaking of splashing the pot, these pirate chips are loud. Just tapping two of them together gives off a high pitched metallic clinking sound, so I can only imagine how annoyingly raucous it would be if someone truly did sprinkle a pot with dozens of these or if someone's stack accidentally got knocked over. Granted you might normally like the sound of coins clinking together... I know I do. But I think the noise will get pretty darn abrasive during a game going 3, 4, 5 hours or even longer.

3. Having just four different chip denominations kind of limits what you can do with them. Yes it should be enough for most basic tournament games. But you aren't going to have a ton of options when it comes to things like multiple color-ups or deep starting stacks. And the basic set comes with only 300 chips, so you'd need to purchase extra chips or multiple sets if you plan to have any type of cash game or offer tourney rebuys.

4. At about $0.93 per chip these pirate chips are certainly not cheap. In fact, as far as I'm aware that price point actually makes them more expensive than virtually everything other than Paulsons and CPC.

5. I know they advertise the heaviness of these pirate chips as being a pro, but I think most of us would agree that it's really a con. I mean casinos tend to know what they are doing when it comes to gaming, and if they have almost universally settled on chips weighing about 10 grams then there's probably a damn good reason for that decision. But by my math a set of 300 of these pirate chips likely weighs in at over 9 pounds, versus just 6.6 pounds for the same number of standard 10 gram chips. So if you have to travel around with your poker supplies at all then you are absolutely going to need to buy a heavy duty case like an Apache, Nanuk, or Pelican because any of the cheap cases available on Amazon will almost assuredly bust wide open with these hefty guys weighing it down.

When all is said and done I think the idea of a pirate treasure themed poker set is cool, so props to the creators for coming up with a solid concept. But the sad reality is that they made some fairly obvious mistakes in the design process that will negatively impact most people's enjoyment during actual gameplay. Ideally they really should have consulted with experts like the fine folks here at PCF to help avoid some of those mistakes from the get go. Or if anyone from the manufacturer ever stumbles across this site in the future and is open to constructive feedback then I really believe that we'd be able to collectively help them improve the product to the point that it might become great. But in the meantime I don't think I could ever justify purchasing a full set of these pirate chips unless I had $300.00 seriously just burning a hole in my pocket and absolutely nothing better to splurge on instead.
 

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@Bikshu - Thanks for your in depth analysis. I agree that the cons outweigh the pros. I also got a sample set, and think they are pretty cool, very impractical in actual game play, but cool nonetheless. I may use my samples as card cappers or see if I can get 20 to use as bounty chips.
 
I think they are definitely cool looking but not practical for chips. Hard to see how many are stacked up, hard to shuffle, just a mess.

That's exactly right. It's like the set was designed by people who don't actually play poker. So they were much more concerned with making something that looks nice on a coffee table and sounds cool when you describe it to your friends, and they didn't really concern themselves with with the usability aspect at all. Whereas if you ask any expert product designer they will assuredly tell you that the first rule of thumb is form always follows function.
 
Interestingly, someone at Pirate Gold Poker Chips reached out to me looking for constructive criticism on how they can improve their product going forward. In his own words he said:

"When we first designed the set, our focus was on creating a unique novelty item for collectors. However, feedback from passionate players like you has highlighted some areas where we can improve, especially for those who value high-quality poker chips. We're excited to let you know that we're already working on a new design that addresses these points."

And to their credit I can see that the makers have already completely redesigned at least the dealer button and the playing cards since this product line was initially launched, so they definitely do appear to be somewhat open to customer suggestions.

I therefore went ahead and reviewed every single post in both this thread and in the other PCF thread about the Pirate chips yet again so that I have a pretty good idea of what our collective "hive mind" liked - and didn't like - about the Pirate Gold stuff. I know the majority of PCF folks think that any type of metal chip stands absolutely no chance of ever being great right off the bat. And although I do completely understand that mentality, I also believe that the target customer demographic for Pirate Gold poker chips probably isn't as hardcore about the divine superiority of compressed clay as we are LOL. But beyond the metal chip issue I really think that there are a number of changes that they can realistically implement which will drastically improve the usability (and desirability) of their product line. So I definitely look forward to staying in contact with the creators going forward, and seeing if - and how - the products continue to evolve.
 
That's exactly right. It's like the set was designed by people who don't actually play poker. So they were much more concerned with making something that looks nice on a coffee table and sounds cool when you describe it to your friends, and they didn't really concern themselves with with the usability aspect at all. Whereas if you ask any expert product designer they will assuredly tell you that the first rule of thumb is form always follows function.
This crap popped up on my Facebook feed again today. I read some of the comments. You wouldn’t believe how many people said something to the effect of “I don’t play poker, but I want these.”

They’re selling a toy. These should be in the gift shop at the end of Pirates of the Caribbean in Disney world.
 
The comments crack me up. I have to wonder how much time it took to create all those fake accounts and post those inane comments.

Nobody gets that excited about plated pot metal slugs.
 
I could print some similar designs with higher contrasting filament and still probably be better than these chips.

I made Robux coins and Ducktails coins for my kids and a few of my friends kids they loved them lol.
 
The comments crack me up. I have to wonder how much time it took to create all those fake accounts and post those inane comments.

Nobody gets that excited about plated pot metal slugs.

I don't know about that. We live in a world where some people pay $2,000.00 for designer jeans that come with a million holes from fake "wear & tear" precut into the denim. Never underestimate how materialistic people with disposable income can be. LOL!
 
I can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but.....

The best thing they could do to improve the playability of their metal chips is to encase them in injection-molded plastic. Okay, when finished with the guffaws, hear me out.....

Not totally encased like 11.5g sluggos, but rather a redesigned metallic coin-like center wrapped up in a plastic wrapper. Sorta a cross between coin-in-center design and a reverse of the old Tangiers brass/plastic chips, and where the chip-to-chip surfaces are strictly plastic-to-plastic but with the added weight and arguably added style of adorned metal.

This actually might fly with a lot of PCFers, both players and collectors. Adding plastic corrects a lot of the Pirate Gold chip problems, including size, weight, sound, colors, feel, and stackability... while maintaining the theme and original metal content characteristics.
 
I can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but.....

The best thing they could do to improve the playability of their metal chips is to encase them in injection-molded plastic. Okay, when finished with the guffaws, hear me out.....

Not totally encased like 11.5g sluggos, but rather a redesigned metallic coin-like center wrapped up in a plastic wrapper. Sorta a cross between coin-in-center design and a reverse of the old Tangiers brass/plastic chips, and where the chip-to-chip surfaces are strictly plastic-to-plastic but with the added weight and arguably added style of adorned metal.

This actually might fly with a lot of PCFers, both players and collectors. Adding plastic corrects a lot of the Pirate Gold chip problems, including size, weight, sound, colors, feel, and stackability... while maintaining the theme and original metal content characteristics.

Ok, who are you and how did you hack into BGinGA's account?
 

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