Play This BBotB Hand with Me For Fun and Profit! (1 Viewer)

[gopherblue]

[Note: This thread is for those PCF'ers who weren't at BBotB. If you were there, and thus know how this hand played out, please refrain from posting until after I have all the action posted. We'll analyze how I played and whether I should've played it differently once we get the whole hand out there.]

Caveat: Stacks/playernames/bets/potsize are approximate, based on memory.

So, I'm at Bounty Battle on the Border with the usual rogue's gallery of drunken aggro action junkies, running over each other every hand.

Game is Big O, high only.

I'm in late position, card dead most of the night, playing a bit tight/passive. I have just under $500. Beelzebub and Prince of Darkness are in early position with stacks that definitely have me more than covered; both are enjoying a lovely IPA from Treehouse. Voldemort is on the button with about $425; he's drinking some sort of schmancy beer from somewhere schmancy.

Price of Darkness pots for $3.

Incredibly Good-Looking-and-Witty-Hero's hole cards are suited KKQQx.

Action?

 

[manamongkids]

repot

 

[gopherblue]

Ok, obvs action was obvs.

IGL&WH (me) repots for $10.

Voldemort calls. Beelzebub and Prince of Darkness both call.

$40 in the pot.

Flop: K85r

Checked to me. Action?



...And I promise, the hand gets more interesting.

 

[manamongkids]

25-30ish.

 

[detroitdad]

Pot. You'll have at least one drunken caller if not both of them

 

[gopherblue]

Clearly you've never played in MA/NH games...

IGL&WH pots. Three callers.

[Here's where it starts to get interesting]

Turn: 7h, putting two hearts on board.

Prince of Darkness pots.

Action?

 

[jbutler]

So it's $200 for you to call and you have $450 behind at the moment, correct?

 

[gopherblue]

So it's $200 for you to call and you have $450 behind at the moment, correct?

Just under $450. Call it $440. You did read the first line of the OP, right?

 

[snooptodd]

Do you have hearts? Obviously it's a non-nut heart draw if that's the case, but still important information to know.

 

[jbutler]

Just under $450. Call it $440. You did read the first line of the OP, right?

I am astonished at how little of BBotB I remember so naturally I have no idea if I was in this hand or present for it, though given our email exchange just now I'll bow out of my analysis since I may have played a part in the debacle and/or quintupling up of the gopher here.

 

[bentax1978]

Do you have hearts? Obviously it's a non-nut heart draw if that's the case, but still important information to know.

I don't believe OP had two hearts (was sitting to his right).

 

[detroitdad]

Turn: 7h, putting two hearts on board.

You don't say what your suits your suited cards are?

Being that its Big O. A good chance one of them has the straight and/or nut flush draw. The question is are you up for gambling your stack. If your on a non heart draw I probably fold. If you have top set with a second nut flush draw then I probably gamble.

 

[gopherblue]

Do you have hearts? Obviously it's a non-nut heart draw if that's the case, but still important information to know.

I do not.

 

[ssanel54]

Turn: 7h, putting two hearts on board.

plus a few straights...

 

[gopherblue]

Clearly you've never played in MA/NH games...

IGL&WH pots. Three callers.

[Here's where it starts to get interesting]

Turn: 7h, putting two hearts on board.

Prince of Darkness pots.

Action?

So...action?

 

[Mr. Cheese]

I shove and prepare for a rebuy but hold onto a sliver of a hope that I will win and the other two are just drunk and have nothing.

 

[krafticus]

So, that completes a straight draw, and puts a flush draw out there. It's 45% of your stack to call. Knowing these guys, you are way behind odds wise, because they play any 5 cards. Hell, some can probably only see 2 of the 5. Gamble and repot, or fold.

Btw, I suck at poker. The more cards, the worse I get.

Man, I hate poker

Mark

 

[Chicken Rob]

I'm thinking you're behind an need boat outs. I also think you're up against berg, Guinness and chippy if I read the op correctly.

This spot sucks. None of these guys are potting into this field without having you beat. You're not getting the right price to fill up, but you're probably close if you call and get 2 callers.

Fold.

 

[courage]

It's 5 Card Omaha not Big O it sounds like if you were playing high-only.

Hero can call turn with probable implied odds if either Beel or Vold or both will call behind. Hero cannot call but fold to any reraise on turn so we're committed. However hero can fold river if he doesn't boat and POD pots. Or hero can fold turn and preserve his stack. I'd base the decision on how much guinness can loan me if I busto.

 

[gopherblue]

I'm thinking you're behind an need boat outs. ...
This spot sucks. None of these guys are potting into this field without having you beat. You're not getting the right price to fill up, but you're probably close if you call and get 2 callers.

Fold.

Hero can call turn with probable implied odds if either Beel or Vold or both will call behind. Hero cannot call but fold to any reraise on turn so we're committed. However hero can fold river if he doesn't boat and POD pots. Or hero can fold turn and preserve his stack. I'd base the decision on how much guinness can loan me if I busto.

Good analyses.

Back to the action:

I Can't Believe It's Not Butter (IGL&WH) tanks for a few minutes, knowing he has to be waaaay behind at this point, then spewtard calls, hoping for callers behind and boating up.

Voldemort pushes all in for another $175 (which doesn't re-open betting). Beelzebub is focused on UConn and punishing his liver, so he folds. Prince of Darkness calls. IGL&WH crying calls.

River is a blank. Prince of Darkness bets whatever remnants remain of ICBINB's stack.

IGL&WH knows he's beat but only has chicken feed left and calls.

Prince of Darkness and Voldemort both show a straight (duh) and split the pot.

Incredibly Stupid & Fishy Hero rebuys.

Now...commentary on my play, especially at turn?

 

[jbutler]

No commentary, but it was a pretty mean tease in the subject line to promise that we could play a hand with you for profit.

 

[gopherblue]

No commentary, but it was a pretty mean tease in the subject line to promise that we could play a hand with you for profit.

It's a hand I was involved in--how could I possibly profit? I don't play to win the moniez.

 

[Psypher1000]

it was a pretty mean tease in the subject line to promise that we could play a hand with you for profit.

Possibly the best analysis of the thread.

 

[jbutler]

Real talk: you need to make a little better than 4:1 on your money to make the turn call. So there's $400 in the pot and it's $200 for you to call with $250 behind. I think you can count on getting one more caller in this spot, but I wouldn't count on two. If you do boat the river, you'll need to get called for your stack to make the turn call profitable. And while you can obviously safely fold the river if the board doesn't pair, you may end up having to call off the rest of your money if one of the players behind you on the turn raises after your flat. In which case you will most certainly not be able to get 4:1 on the money you put in on the turn.

So I would say it's a clear pot preflop, a clear pot on the flop, a bummer of a fold to the first pot bet on the turn, and an obvious sigh call of the extra $175. It's also a really, really clear fold on the river imo. I know you only had $75 behind, but that's 150 BBs in the game and 75 BBs even with the straddle on. Easy to come back with that amount.