Tourney Rebuys....What's a good structure for a Tournament? (3 Viewers)

[Vice]

With a 10k starting stack, what is a good structure for rebuys?

Full price rebuy for the starting amount or half price for the starting stack or is something else good?

Thanks

 

[justsomedude]

With a 10k starting stack, what is a good structure for rebuys?

Full price rebuy for the starting amount or half price for the starting stack or is something else good?

Thanks

I went through a variety of different test runs on Rebuys over the years, and having a firm cutoff point with a full price rebuy is probably the best way to go. Discounted rebuys encourages aggressive play early, which can significantly increase the total number of chips in play as players jam and bust out (and then rebuy). While this may sound like "fun," since it makes the game "loose" and gives everyone more chances to re-enter, all you're doing is effectively lengthening the total run time of the tournament by keeping players in the game and putting more chips on the tables. I learned this lesson the hard way.

Remember: tournies have to end. You just can't have endless addons and rebuys. Make a firm end time for rebuys, and I'd suggest keeping the rebuy price the same as the original entry.

 

[Beakertwang]

I usually only have rebuys for the first 3, maybe 4 levels. I limit it to one rebuy, to keep the game from being a bingo fest.

You could do a 10K stack 12/12/7/5, and give everyone a 5K chip that's not in play, but functions as a rebuy chip. They would get one half price rebuy. If they have their chip after the rebuy period, the 5K is in play as a free add-on. I suppose you could do that with 2 5K's as well, and offer two half-price rebuys/add on.

 

[DoubleEagle]

Remember: tournies have to end. You just can't have endless addons and rebuys. Make a firm end time for rebuys, and I'd suggest keeping the rebuy price the same as the original entry.

That. We limit “re-entries” to three 20 min levels. No add-ons. Re-entry buy-in the same as initial. No discount.

 

[Darson]

Is this a tournament where you have multiple tables and need to manage lots of people and have it finish by a certain time? Or is this a tourney style home game where your main objective is to have some fun and keep as many people on the table for as long as possible to keep it social?

The answer will change the response. For my home game, I have the blinds go a little slower initially and allow rebuys as long as people are willing. There comes a point where the rebuy is only 20 or 10BB and people stop rebuying.

 

[DarPodo]

We offer 1 rebuy OR add on within the first 4 levels. The rebuy amount in cost and chips = the add on amount (1/3 of starting stack / buy in).

 

[Schmendr1ck]

Is this a tournament where you have multiple tables and need to manage lots of people and have it finish by a certain time? Or is this a tourney style home game where your main objective is to have some fun and keep as many people on the table for as long as possible to keep it social?

The answer will change the response. For my home game, I have the blinds go a little slower initially and allow rebuys as long as people are willing. There comes a point where the rebuy is only 20 or 10BB and people stop rebuying.

Spot on - a weeknight game where everybody has to be home and in bed by midnight is a different beast than a Saturday all-day game.

My Kiwanis club does a couple fundraising tournaments each year, and we do discounted rebuys and add-ons. It doesn't make a significant difference in the length of the tournament because the blind structure is so ridiculously aggressive, but it does get a lot more money in the bank for our organization because people are more willing to rebuy at a discount.

 

[JoeBGo]

Here’s the rebuy structure my crew uses:
1st buy in $20 for 3,000
You can rebuy for $10 if you’re at 1,500 or below
You can rebuy for $20 if you go broke for another 3,000
Unlimited rebuys for the first 80 minutes
At the break $20 add on gets you 5,000
If you’re broke at the break you can double and add on for $40
Blinds start at 25/50 and 20 minute levels.

I currently own the record for rebuys....at the break I owed $410.....and of course I bubbled that month

 

[Philia]

We offer rebuys till the level, where a rebuy has at least a worth of around 25 big blinds. Otherwise it makes not a lot sense anymore for the player and the game, too much all-in shortstack play. Rebuy-ends could be at level 3 or 4, but out latest rebuy possiblity is level 7 in the deeper weekend tournament with 8 to 9 hours. Depends on the structure.

Btw: We still have rebuys, but we skipped all addons during the first break, because this really extended our tournaments.

 

[Beakertwang]

Here’s the rebuy structure my crew uses:
1st buy in $20 for 3,000
You can rebuy for $10 if you’re at 1,500 or below
You can rebuy for $20 if you go broke for another 3,000
Unlimited rebuys for the first 80 minutes
At the break $20 add on gets you 5,000
If you’re broke at the break you can double and add on for $40
Blinds start at 25/50 and 20 minute levels.

I currently own the record for rebuys....at the break I owed $410.....and of course I bubbled that month

Let me get this straight—you spent $410 on buy-ins, rebuys, and add-ons in one twenty dollar tournament??!!!

 

[JoeBGo]

Let me get this straight—you spent $410 on buy-ins, rebuys, and add-ons in one twenty dollar tournament??!!!

We get crazy.......2 table tourney and that month there was over $3,200 in the pot.

 

[Poker Zombie]

Here’s the rebuy structure my crew uses:
1st buy in $20 for 3,000
You can rebuy for $10 if you’re at 1,500 or below
You can rebuy for $20 if you go broke for another 3,000
Unlimited rebuys for the first 80 minutes
At the break $20 add on gets you 5,000
If you’re broke at the break you can double and add on for $40
Blinds start at 25/50 and 20 minute levels.

I currently own the record for rebuys....at the break I owed $410.....and of course I bubbled that month

I no longer consider myself to be the worst player on PCF.

By the way there's a meet-up right next door in Colorado a week from now. You should go.

 

[JoeBGo]

I no longer consider myself to be the worst player on PCF.

By the way there's a meet-up right next door in Colorado a week from now. You should go.

Wow...thanks. I consider myself pretty solid. I’ve been playing over 15 years. It was a crazy night, I kept getting mediocre hands and was trying to catch a stack. I’d also won $300 in the cash game before the tournament, it was ALMOST a free roll.

 

[Poker Zombie]

Zombie Poker Club rebuy rules:

• Rebuys are limited to 1 per player. This prevents deep pockets from bullying recreational players on a budget.
• The rebuy period is open for the first 2 hours. This nearly guarantees 2 hours of play for everyone. Since some players drive 2 hours (round trip) it is only fair that they get at least 2 hours of poker for their effort. Even so, we have had 20 instances where a player lost their 2nd buy-in before the rebuy period expired, out of 39 events)
• You do not need to be felted, but you forfeit any chips you have remaining in play. This prevents the shove-fest with any two cards when the rebuy period is about to expire.
• Rebuys are for the buy-in amount ($20), and you get 110% of the starting stack. This encourages rebuys especially from short-stacks during the end-of-rebuys break.
• I try to make it so a rebuying player has at least 20 BB. I've seen events (and hosted them) where the rebuying player might still be short-stacked. This was fine in the early days when poor players would play 10 BB the same way they would play 50 BB, but as players became more skilled, they would get 1 jam for their rebuy, which is not a good value.

 

[JoeBGo]

I no longer consider myself to be the worst player on PCF.

By the way there's a meet-up right next door in Colorado a week from now. You should go.

I’ll also brag a little to make myself feel a little better. I only bested the rebuy record by $60 that night. The previous record was held by my friend who has made multiple WPT and WSOP final tables. So I guess I can’t be THAT bad?

 

[Poker Zombie]

I’ll also brag a little to make myself feel a little better. I only bested the rebuy record by $60 that night. The previous record was held by my friend who has made multiple WPT and WSOP final tables. So I guess I can’t be THAT bad?

Just say "alcohol may have been involved". It makes losing $410 in a $20 tournament sound like a great night somehow.

 

[RagsPoker]

My tourney is $10 buyin, get 10K chips. Unlimited rebuys first hour only (must be felted) at cost of $10 for another 10K in chips.
Each player can add-on one time only in the 1st hour for $5 and get 5K in chips.

 

[DaneWoj]

Our league does half price rebuys for 2 hours($80/$40). We start with 8000 chips. You can rebuy whenever under half a starting stack. We also do a $20 addon for 5k chips.

Our league(Aptly named League of Extraordinary Degenerates) is designed to promote rebuys. Our league sends players to the WSOP $1500 Monster Stack each summer. This past year we sent 9 players.