Seeking opinions for odd-denom Mardi Gras v.2b set (2 Viewers)

[Mental Nomad]

So I'm considering building a Mardi Gras cash set. I commonly play three games: $.25 NLHE, $1 NLHE with a $.50 blind, and $2 NLHE with a $1 blind.

The Mardi Gras have a split-spot problem with the $1 chip, and it's a blue single, and I'm not fond of blue singles. But they offer a lot of denominations, and they're available at $1.29 a chip new from http://www.holdempokerchips.com, which is still a good deal. So I can buy large numbers.

Refresher pictures:

Here's my weird question. I have 20 Matsui Hundo Plaques on the way. I'm considering building a set with the following Mardi Gras chips to go with:
25c
50c
$5
$20 or $25

Here, the 50c and the $5 would be the workhorse chips. The progression works for me - barrel of 50c is $10, barrel of $5 is $100, and the plaque is the bank chip at $100. Very easy. I'll have a small number of $20 or $25 to use as as the bank chip in the 25 cent game, but I won't need much of them. In the $1 and $2 games, I'd plan to use the plaques as the bank denom.

My problem: the face of the 50c and the $5 have a very similar color. I think they'll blend in splashed pots. They look very different in stacks, but the inlay art is very similar.

Option two:
25c
50c
$2
$10

So the 50c and the $2 become the workhorses for the small game, but the $2 and the $10 are the workhorses for the bigger games. With a $10 chip, I don't feel the need for a $20 or $25. I have the 20 hundo plaques, and I can buy lmany racks of $10s.

But I have the same problem of color similarity! The $10 and the 50c, in stacks, are very similar. I see dirty stacks galore.

I suppose a third option might be:
25c
50c
$2
$20

But, for some reason, the jump from $2 to $20 seems weird. It's also weird that this seems weird to me, since it's the same multiple as from 50c to $5, but I'm OK with that.

Thoughts? Are my color-match concerns misplaced? Other suggestions?

(With the split-spop problem, buying singles isn't an appealing option.)

 

[pltrgyst]

I've used the 50c and $5 together numerous times, both Riverboats and Mardi Gras, and no one has ever mentioned any problem. I think the red is evident enough on the 50c to prevent any confusion.

I've also used the 50c - $3 -$20 / $25 sequence, but I can see why the combo of the orange 50c and pink $3s might seem jarring to some.
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[Mental Nomad]

Had to go look up the Riverboat cash set - hadn't seen it - very nice!

I've often thought of doing a quarter pie set, and at $1.82 per inlaid chip on the Circle Square mold, I'd rather do that than buy Riverboats for $1.29.

 

[pltrgyst]

My Riverboats are the V1s, identical colors and spots to your Mardi Gras.

 

[Mental Nomad]

Sigh. Quarter pie experiment. This rabbit hole runs deep.

 

[BGinGA]

I'd use $25 chips as quarters, and the white $100 chips as singles. Combine 'em with the awesome $5 and $20 chips.

That's a lot less tilting to me than any of the scenarios you describe. I'd rather play with the blue split-spot singles than any of that silliness, too.

 

[Mental Nomad]

I'd use $25 chips as quarters, and the white $100 chips as singles. Combine 'em with the awesome $5 and $20 chips.

I like that setup in stack shots, though the $25 and $20 look a bit close... Especially liking that white $100 as a single. Not too fond about the $25 and $100 being the only two chips playing at 1/100, but that doesn't tilt me as much as the split spots would.

 

[BGinGA]

I like that setup in stack shots, though the $25 and $20 look a bit close... Especially liking that white $100 as a single. Not too fond about the $25 and $100 being the only two chips playing at 1/100, but that doesn't tilt me as much as the split spots would.

After giving this more thought, I think using the $25, $100, and $500 as quarter/one/five is a better solution. You already have the $100 Matsui plaques coming, so all you really need to work out is a $20 or $25 chip/plaque.

The proposed $20 bill plaque would work perfectly; if the Matsui option falls through, I'd go with GOCC's cut-corner plaques (small size). Just got samples in, and they are sick - the artwork printing is incredible. Could even make it hybrid mardi gras currency.

 

[liftapint]

The $500 chip has a terrible split-spot rate. As bad as the $1s.

 

[BGinGA]

lol, just full of good news.....

Thanks for the heads-up, Mel. You may have just saved Mental from going mental upon receipt of said chips.

 

[liftapint]

I was so upset when I ordered >$2000 of these chips, and the $1 and $500 arrived with split spot rates approaching 1.0 (all chips). Since it was both ends of the spectrum, it pretty much screwed up my plans for both the cash and tourney set ideas. It was the worst moment of my chipping experience when those arrived, because I couldn't live with split spots, and here they were.

Anyway, I just want people to go into these chips with eyes wide open....that the $1 and $500 pretty much all have split spots. if you don't care about split spots...fine. But I just don't want anyone to have the experience that I did. I was so sad.

 

[BGinGA]

Yeah, you pretty much killed my plan of eventually owning a set....

I absolutely love the cash chip colors/spots (especially $5/$20), and have only hesitated because a) nobody around here plays cash games, and b) I never really cared for the cali-colored tournament chips (I like the hundo, but really don't like the 1K chip colors at all). Knowing that the $500 also has split spots pretty much ices this set. Love the T-mold, but never a big fan of oversize inlays (although J5's art here is priceless). My sample chips are all perfect and stack like rocks. Pity.

I do recall that BCC had splitting issues occasionally with some molds when using 614 spots and certain base colors (white in particular). Surprised that the $3 chips in this set aren't also affected.

 

[Mental Nomad]

Yeah, the $1 and the $500 are why these chips are still in stock.

But I'm seriously considering a set with the $25 and $100 playing as quarter and single, and then the $5 and the $10 playing as $5 and $20. The $20 and the quarter feel too close to play together, but I just won't need to play the $20 chips in my quarter game. Worst case, if the game runs really big, I'll go straight to a hundo plaque replacing a barrel of fives.

In the dollar game the $20 might need to play, but I won't be using the $25 as a quarter there. Instead, I'd actually use the 50 cent chip.

But going back and forth between 1/100 and regular will be annoying... and the prices are that much less than customs. Or, if I go ceramic, the prices are more than customs!

Maybe these chips are just best for making a limit set with huge numbers of a particular denom, or two.

 

[Forty4]

Can someone show me a pic of a split spot? I want to confirm my mental image I've created. Thanks in advance.

Edit: okay zoomed in on the pic and confirmed, but would still like a closer pic if possible.

 

[BGinGA]

 

[Forty4]

Thanks that was exactly what I thought.

 

[stocky]

What about using $2s and $10s? Instead of $2s and $20s

Or 25¢/50¢/$3/$20

 

[detroitdad]

sorry for thread jacking. If its a problem let me know and I'll start another thread. Figured it was a similar to your needs/request so I was hoping to just hijack your thread

I had a decent win last night at Chaos's game (see game thread in cash games). I also love these chips and am contemplating purchasing a 1 table cash set. I love the blue ones. Would hate for half of them to be fucked up.

I already have the Samurai Palace set for a .25/.50 game. I'll have a custom set in the future that will cover .25/.50 to 1/1 stakes. I'm contemplating building this as a .50/50 set with .50, 2, 5, and 20.

Thoughts? suggested break downs? .50/.50 game with a 100.00 buy in.

I was thinking of

100 x .50
150 x 2
150 x 5
50 x 20

This would give me 10 starting stacks of 100 bucks and 11 rebuys.

starting stacks

10 x .50
15 x 2
13 x 5

100.00's

@ChaosRock showed me his mardi gras set. I like them even more after seeing them in person.

 

[detroitdad]

I'm back to contemplating a set of these. Just trying to determine if I could handle the split spot problems. Wanting a .50/1 or 1/1 set.

damn addiction.

 

[MD Mike]

I'm back to contemplating a set of these. Just trying to determine if I could handle the split spot problems. Wanting a .50/1 or 1/1 set.

damn, I love this addiction.

FYP

 

[Meddler2]

The $500 chip has a terrible split-spot rate. As bad as the $1s.

Should not have been a surprise:

"In the manufacturing process of these chips most all of the 8 spot chips have a "split spot" appearance. This has affected most all of the $1's and $500's in this chip line. There is no issue with the quality of these chips, only a cosmetic look where the spots were "split" with the base color. If you are ordering these chips expect most if not all to have this appearance to them. This effect could also appear on other chips but we have not seen them yet. These are the chips this set has and there is no choice but to pass if this may bother you. This is a situation that happens in the manufacturing process not only to these chips but others including chips in casinos. We do not exchange or refund in this circumstance "

My first custom asm set had a high split rate of a particular denom, and even though ASM also did not consider them a defect, Jim remade them. Because of his customer service, I went on to order 2 more custom sets over the years but avoided the spots that have potential split problems.

 

[liftapint]

Should not have been a surprise:

"In the manufacturing process of these chips most all of the 8 spot chips have a "split spot" appearance. This has affected most all of the $1's and $500's in this chip line. There is no issue with the quality of these chips, only a cosmetic look where the spots were "split" with the base color. If you are ordering these chips expect most if not all to have this appearance to them. This effect could also appear on other chips but we have not seen them yet. These are the chips this set has and there is no choice but to pass if this may bother you. This is a situation that happens in the manufacturing process not only to these chips but others including chips in casinos. We do not exchange or refund in this circumstance "

It was a surprise, because that warning was NOT on the website when I ordered my chips. It was on the website BECAUSE of *MY* response to receiving my chips!

And to be fair, holdempokerchips.com took care of me. But no, I was unaware of the split spot problem when I ordered several thousand dollars worth of those chips...and was not happy when they arrived.

Edit: and again to be fair, not everyone considers it a problem. It doesn't bother some people. It bugged the hell out of me!

 

[Meddler2]

It was a surprise, because that warning was NOT on the website when I ordered my chips. It was on the website BECAUSE of *MY* response to receiving my chips!

And to be fair, holdempokerchips.com took care of me. But no, I was unaware of the split spot problem when I ordered several thousand dollars worth of those chips...and was not happy when they arrived.

Edit: and again to be fair, not everyone considers it a problem. It doesn't bother some people. It bugged the hell out of me!

Gotcha. I think it bugs most people; otherwise there wouldn't be any inventory of these otherwise great chips. And I think it totally makes the chip defective...regardless of what the manufacturer or retailers say.

 

[detroitdad]

Why do the ones have to be screwed up damnt.

Trying to figure out a .50/.50 10 player set with a 150 max buy in (would like to go 1/1 but can't). Using .50, 3, 20, and 100 denominations. Just messed around on the chip calculator and it looks all fucked up.

I could maybe go .50/2/5/25 or .25/3/10/20 or .50/2/5/25/100. Starting to hurt my brain. At least its going to be awhile before I can consider it anyways.


I've decided that whenever my bankroll gets to 6k I'll buy a set, lol. Cuz well, why not.

 

[ChaosRock]

Why do the ones have to be screwed up damnt.

Trying to figure out a .50/.50 10 player set with a 150 max buy in (would like to go 1/1 but can't). Using .50, 3, 20, and 100 denominations. Just messed around on the chip calculator and it looks all fucked up.

I could maybe go .50/2/5/25 or .25/3/10/20 or .50/2/5/25/100. Starting to hurt my brain. At least its going to be awhile before I can consider it anyways.


I've decided that whenever my bankroll gets to 6k I'll buy a set, lol. Cuz well, why not.

I don't think there's a reason to go $2>$5... You could do 50¢ / $2 / $10... Then you could get a few $25s or $100s for re-buys...

 

[BGinGA]

You could do 50¢ / $2 / $10... Then you could get a few $25s or $100s for re-buys..

The problem with this approach is that the $1, $3, $5, and $20 chips are the nicest in set imo (although the $10 is nice, too).... and I can't seem to put together a decent blind structure that uses $3, $5, and/or $20 chips without using either the $1 or $500 chip, both of which suffer the split-spot problem. Ugh. I guess it's destined to be a huge 10c/20c limit set playing 1/100 with tons of $5 and $20 chips and a few hundos......

 

[ChaosRock]

The problem with this approach is that the $1, $3, $5, and $20 chips are the nicest in set imo

I agree 100%!!! For me it's all about the $1, $5 and $20...

 

[Ronoh]

I don't think there's a reason to go $2>$5... You could do 50¢ / $2 / $10... Then you could get a few $25s or $100s for re-buys...

I considered something similar... my problem was I can't see it being a good idea to have the .50 and $10 on the table together. And not being able to use both just screws the idea. Drop down to quarters and you have an 8x jump to the $2. Eliminate the $10 and you really have to go with the 2 and 5.

 

[detroitdad]

I agree 100%!!! For me it's all about the $1, $5 and $20...

I agree. I just can't order 200+ ones and have half, or more than half fucked up. I just can't do it. I'm trying to wrap my head around a different break down. Honestly, I'm not a fan of any of them.

I considered something similar... my problem was I can't see it being a good idea to have the .50 and $10 on the table together. And not being able to use both just screws the idea. Drop down to quarters and you have an 8x jump to the $2. Eliminate the $10 and you really have to go with the 2 and 5.

I don't really want the gray quarters. I already have gray quarters in my Samurai Palace set. Maybe I'm just destined to not own one of these sets.

Doesn't matter. I'll probably lose four buy ins on SAT. anyways, lol. I don't have a solid history of doing well on my Birthday Weekend Celebration Poker Games, lol.

 

[Ronoh]

I don't really want the gray quarters. I already have gray quarters in my Samurai Palace set.

If you don't want split 1s it doesn't matter anyways unless you want a ton of quarters on the table... 6 of them every hand at .50/1 just to post blinds.

All I was saying was I couldn't find an alternate denomination breakdown that worked for me due to stacks of halves and stacks of $10 being way too close in appearance. Shame.