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It's the only one I have seen and I missed it
It's the only one I have seen and I missed it

Sundowner is a term that has been used in a lot of ways, particularly for events that occur at night (like gambling at a casino).I have a possibly off-point question regarding this casino’s name.
In the early- to mid-20th Century, some racist town governments put up signs announcing that they were a “Sundown” community as a threat to African-Americans not to remain within the town limits after dark.
Given that history, it always strikes me as kind of weird that a casino would brand itself “Sundowner.” Maybe the owners were not aware of the connotation?
https://www.uua.org/racial-justice/history/engaging/sundown-towns
This is what it brings to my mindSundowner is a term that has been used in a lot of ways, particularly for events that occur at night (like gambling at a casino).
Some nighttime winds in California and elsewhere are called sundowners, and there's even a Metal Gear character called Sundowner.
It doesn't seem like there's any intentional connection here.
It doesn't seem like there's any intentional connection here.
It could have just been the last hotel on the westernmost street in town. It’s named sundown in almost any town in the US.I certainly hope not, but for an older establishment it might have been an subtle message about who they wanted coming in the door (or didn't want).
Theoretically, sure, but absent other evidence, it's a big stretch.I certainly hope not, but for an older establishment it might have been an subtle message about who they wanted coming in the door (or didn't want).
It could just as probably be a haven for vampire fearing people, the westernmost place in town the last rays of the sun hit, the last refuge.I certainly hope not, but for an older establishment it might have been an subtle message about who they wanted coming in the door (or didn't want).
This is actually the inspiration behind the tribute set I did for my son.
Or, maybe it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.I certainly hope not, but for an older establishment it might have been an subtle message about who they wanted coming in the door (or didn't want).
Or, maybe it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
It might not be. But it is the first thing I think of every time I see that casino’s name. And I bet others of a certain age and demographic visiting Reno wondered about it, too.
FWIW, one of the original owners per Wikipedia “had been named in several civil suits, accusing him of fraud, owing money, and causing pollution to water in Lake Tahoe.” The operators pulled a big switcheroo on their initial backers, who were not aware they were financing a casino.
The Sundowner also quickly “became the focus of a federal grand jury investigation” in relation to Reno water and sewer regulations.
It also lost a $4.4 million lawsuit (big money in 1982) brought by one of its construction workers who got paralyzed, and a bunch of other big lawsuits over the years regarding other questionable practices, thefts in hotel rooms, etc. Its final years were extremely troubled.
Doesn’t prove malice in the naming, but the possibility that such disreputable characters would be above giving their casino a name with such connotations is hardly beyond the realm of possibility IMHO.
But were you tho?........ I'm not so sureeeeeFWIW I was looking for a chip, not a debate on racism.
Yes, by today’s standards, all of this has to equal racism. Absolutely nothing about race mentioned in anything you posted, but yes, racism. For sure.It might not be. But it is the first thing I think of every time I see that casino’s name. And I bet others of a certain age and demographic visiting Reno wondered about it, too.
FWIW, one of the original owners per Wikipedia “had been named in several civil suits, accusing him of fraud, owing money, and causing pollution to water in Lake Tahoe.” The operators pulled a big switcheroo on their initial backers, who were not aware they were financing a casino.
The Sundowner also quickly “became the focus of a federal grand jury investigation” in relation to Reno water and sewer regulations.
It also lost a $4.4 million lawsuit (big money in 1982) brought by one of its construction workers who got paralyzed, and a bunch of other big lawsuits over the years regarding other questionable practices, thefts in hotel rooms, etc. Its final years were extremely troubled.
Doesn’t prove malice in the naming, but the possibility that such disreputable characters would be above giving their casino a name with such connotations is hardly beyond the realm of possibility IMHO.
So I heard that Cal Ripken kicked his ass after Costner had a little too much fun with Ripken’s wife.Visalia?
Isn't that where Crash Davis went looking for an opening as a manager after he left Durham and broke the minor league HR record in Asheville?
Edit: Yep.