Not Mine Someone here pick this up? (Sundowner $500) (1 Viewer)

I'm thinking/hoping it was Danny. I know he is a fellow Sundowner collector. Either way I'm glad to at least know it was someone in the community.

I've never seen one in the wild but I'm glad to know they do exist. I'll have to keep an eye out from now on.
 
I have a possibly off-point question regarding this casino’s name.

In the early- to mid-20th Century, some racist town governments put up signs announcing that they were a “Sundown” community as a threat to African-Americans not to remain within the town limits after dark.

Given that history, it always strikes me as kind of weird that a casino would brand itself “Sundowner.” Maybe the owners were not aware of the connotation?

https://www.uua.org/racial-justice/history/engaging/sundown-towns
 
I have a possibly off-point question regarding this casino’s name.

In the early- to mid-20th Century, some racist town governments put up signs announcing that they were a “Sundown” community as a threat to African-Americans not to remain within the town limits after dark.

Given that history, it always strikes me as kind of weird that a casino would brand itself “Sundowner.” Maybe the owners were not aware of the connotation?

https://www.uua.org/racial-justice/history/engaging/sundown-towns
Sundowner is a term that has been used in a lot of ways, particularly for events that occur at night (like gambling at a casino).

Some nighttime winds in California and elsewhere are called sundowners, and there's even a Metal Gear character called Sundowner.

It doesn't seem like there's any intentional connection here.
 
Sundowner for Canadians (southwestern Ontario) :LOL: :laugh:

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Sundowner is a term that has been used in a lot of ways, particularly for events that occur at night (like gambling at a casino).

Some nighttime winds in California and elsewhere are called sundowners, and there's even a Metal Gear character called Sundowner.

It doesn't seem like there's any intentional connection here.
This is what it brings to my mind

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I certainly hope not, but for an older establishment it might have been an subtle message about who they wanted coming in the door (or didn't want).
It could have just been the last hotel on the westernmost street in town. It’s named sundown in almost any town in the US.
 
I certainly hope not, but for an older establishment it might have been an subtle message about who they wanted coming in the door (or didn't want).
Theoretically, sure, but absent other evidence, it's a big stretch.

I'm trying not to get this thread pushed into Politics, so I'll leave it at that.
 
I certainly hope not, but for an older establishment it might have been an subtle message about who they wanted coming in the door (or didn't want).
It could just as probably be a haven for vampire fearing people, the westernmost place in town the last rays of the sun hit, the last refuge.
Actually more probable.
 
Or, maybe it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

It might not be. But it is the first thing I think of every time I see that casino’s name. And I bet others of a certain age and demographic visiting Reno wondered about it, too.

FWIW, one of the original owners per Wikipedia “had been named in several civil suits, accusing him of fraud, owing money, and causing pollution to water in Lake Tahoe.” The operators pulled a big switcheroo on their initial backers, who were not aware they were financing a casino.

The Sundowner also quickly “became the focus of a federal grand jury investigation” in relation to Reno water and sewer regulations.

It also lost a $4.4 million lawsuit (big money in 1982) brought by one of its construction workers who got paralyzed, and a bunch of other big lawsuits over the years regarding other questionable practices, thefts in hotel rooms, etc. Its final years were extremely troubled.

Doesn’t prove malice in the naming, but the possibility that such disreputable characters would be above giving their casino a name with such connotations is hardly beyond the realm of possibility IMHO.
 
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It might not be. But it is the first thing I think of every time I see that casino’s name. And I bet others of a certain age and demographic visiting Reno wondered about it, too.

FWIW, one of the original owners per Wikipedia “had been named in several civil suits, accusing him of fraud, owing money, and causing pollution to water in Lake Tahoe.” The operators pulled a big switcheroo on their initial backers, who were not aware they were financing a casino.

The Sundowner also quickly “became the focus of a federal grand jury investigation” in relation to Reno water and sewer regulations.

It also lost a $4.4 million lawsuit (big money in 1982) brought by one of its construction workers who got paralyzed, and a bunch of other big lawsuits over the years regarding other questionable practices, thefts in hotel rooms, etc. Its final years were extremely troubled.

Doesn’t prove malice in the naming, but the possibility that such disreputable characters would be above giving their casino a name with such connotations is hardly beyond the realm of possibility IMHO.

FWIW I was looking for a chip, not a debate on racism.
 
It might not be. But it is the first thing I think of every time I see that casino’s name. And I bet others of a certain age and demographic visiting Reno wondered about it, too.

FWIW, one of the original owners per Wikipedia “had been named in several civil suits, accusing him of fraud, owing money, and causing pollution to water in Lake Tahoe.” The operators pulled a big switcheroo on their initial backers, who were not aware they were financing a casino.

The Sundowner also quickly “became the focus of a federal grand jury investigation” in relation to Reno water and sewer regulations.

It also lost a $4.4 million lawsuit (big money in 1982) brought by one of its construction workers who got paralyzed, and a bunch of other big lawsuits over the years regarding other questionable practices, thefts in hotel rooms, etc. Its final years were extremely troubled.

Doesn’t prove malice in the naming, but the possibility that such disreputable characters would be above giving their casino a name with such connotations is hardly beyond the realm of possibility IMHO.
Yes, by today’s standards, all of this has to equal racism. Absolutely nothing about race mentioned in anything you posted, but yes, racism. For sure.
 
“FWIW, one of the original owners per Wikipedia “had been named in several civil suits, accusing him of fraud, owing money, and causing pollution to water in Lake Tahoe.” The operators pulled a big switcheroo on their initial backers, who were not aware they were financing a casino.”

Skimmed through this thinking the founder of Wikipedia was doing shady shit and was mildly intrigued.

A casino owner with loose ethics though? Boring.


One up side here is from looking up the sundowner I found a card room / strip club in California with these chips…

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Visalia?

Isn't that where Crash Davis went looking for an opening as a manager after he left Durham and broke the minor league HR record in Asheville?

Edit: Yep.

So I heard that Cal Ripken kicked his ass after Costner had a little too much fun with Ripken’s wife.
 

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