Tourney Specific T100 Breakdown & Structure (4 Viewers)

[Rieguy]

Yes there are threads on this already. Yes I read them. Yes I am making another one. Yes, I appreciate the work that has gone into those prior responses. No, I have not found a definitive one I am going with as of now, as it appears to me there are just too many scattered threads with information all over the place.

That said, I genuinely suck with tournaments, hence why I am making this thread. I own a cheap T25-400ct plastic tourney set, but before CPC shuts down I would like to make/have a single clay set JIC, which is why I'm asking.

1) I am looking to make a T100 set that utilizes a T100, T500, T1K, T5K, and T25K (although I realize the latter may be used extremely sparingly or only a handful of them see felt).​

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2) I want the set to be relatively efficient (aka just simply not an absurd size) while simultaneously not having a starting stack or stacks that are going to result in having to constantly make change.​

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3) If I can make it a MTT w/ a simple add-on of ~200 or so chips, please include.​

Thanks y'all, I appreciate it!

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

@BGinGA

 

[Sparkynutz]

Your ideal playtime will dictate quantities and starting stack.
My guys like to play more shorter tournaments over one long one with deep stack. It really depends on what your guys like too.

 

[Rieguy]

Your ideal time will dictate quantities and starting stack.
My guys like to play more shorter tournaments over one long one with deep stack. It really depends on what your guys like too.

~5 hours max sounds ideal. Not sure if this qualifies as shorter, but I assume planning for that would result in also having a more turbo-friendly set ready to go as a backup?

 

[buffalojim]

I have a few suggestions, and all of them are based off of @BGinGA's posts I've found across the forum. All credit to him for these screen shots. My ideal starting stacks for the tournaments I like to run are usually 200BB's (big blinds), which I think is considered a semi deep stack. My current T100 set is a rack of each 100-5K, which has worked fine.

I prefer to use:

100 x 10
500 x 8
1000 x 10
5000 x 5

This equals a 40,000 stack, and if you start with 100/200 as your first blind, this equals 200BB's.

I had a STT Tiger hot stamped set I built similar to this breakdown below, worked very well except I didn't really get T25K's in play often. You could theoretically double this for two tables but might be overkill as you definitely won't get 100% re-buys unless you're playing with complete maniacs.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...own-for-t25-tournament-set.57225/post-1107661

I've seen other builds like this for two tables, which is a bit more economical.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...and-lowest-starting-denom.114458/post-2355830

Some advice he has also posted which I think is useful.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/starting-stacks-breakdown-t100-base.52967/post-1006296

I have a structure I use which has proven to be pretty good I think. The STT tournament will usually last between 4-5hrs and ends around level 14 when the BB equals roughly 5% of the chips in play.

Hopefully more people can chime in with suggestions, breakdowns, etc.

 

[BGinGA]

^ BGinGA approved.

However, I've recently settled on 40k starting stacks (15/7/15/4, 200bb with 100/200 blinds), using T5000s for all color-ups.

10-player set:
150 x T100
70 x T500
150 x T1000
80 x T5000 (40x for color-ups)
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450 chips

Expanding that to include 5 re-buys, add another 40x T5000 chips (and top off with 10x T25k chips if desired), bumping the total to 500 chips.

The advantages are minimal change-making, and the ability to easily support BBA tournaments (probably a good long-term idea).

If wanting to also support a 2-table event with the set, see below.

A 20-player set will require a bare minimum of 500 chips (10/4/7/2 = 20k stacks, 200bb with 100/100 blinds):
200 x T100
80 x T500
140 x T1000
80 x T5000 (40x for color-ups)
----------
500 chips

So to combine the two (while also rounding up to full barrels), go with:

200 x T100
80 x T500
160 x T1000
120 x T5000
20 x T25000
----------
580 chips

Add 20x bounty chips and you're looking at 600 chips all-in.

 

[Rieguy]

Yuge thanks to you both. This is basically exactly what I was asking for; efficiency while maintaining a nice sized starting stack. Will lock in a structure to laminate and we're golden.

(Going to go with the latter MTT breakdown for just an extra ~130 chips, regardless of the unlikelihood of hosting one anytime soon. It's a no-brainer with CPC's uncertain future.)

 

[CallingStation614]

^ BGinGA approved.

However, I've recently settled on 40k starting stacks (15/7/15/4, 200bb with 100/200 blinds), using T5000s for all color-ups.

10-player set:
150 x T100
70 x T500
150 x T1000
80 x T5000 (40x for color-ups)
-----------
450 chips

Expanding that to include 5 re-buys, add another 40x T5000 chips (and top off with 10x T25k chips if desired), bumping the total to 500 chips.

The advantages are minimal change-making, and the ability to easily support BBA tournaments (probably a good long-term idea).

If wanting to also support a 2-table event with the set, see below.

A 20-player set will require a bare minimum of 500 chips (10/4/7/2 = 20k stacks, 200bb with 100/100 blinds):
200 x T100
80 x T500
140 x T1000
80 x T5000 (40x for color-ups)
----------
500 chips

So to combine the two (while also rounding up to full barrels), go with:

200 x T100
80 x T500
160 x T1000
120 x T5000
20 x T25000
----------
580 chips

Add 20x bounty chips and you're looking at 600 chips all-in.

Amen.

 

[Uscfan81]

I have a few suggestions, and all of them are based off of @BGinGA's posts I've found across the forum. All credit to him for these screen shots. My ideal starting stacks for the tournaments I like to run are usually 200BB's (big blinds), which I think is considered a semi deep stack. My current T100 set is a rack of each 100-5K, which has worked fine.

I prefer to use:

100 x 10
500 x 8
1000 x 10
5000 x 5

This equals a 40,000 stack, and if you start with 100/200 as your first blind, this equals 200BB's.

I had a STT Tiger hot stamped set I built similar to this breakdown below, worked very well except I didn't really get T25K's in play often. You could theoretically double this for two tables but might be overkill as you definitely won't get 100% re-buys unless you're playing with complete maniacs.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...own-for-t25-tournament-set.57225/post-1107661
View attachment 1433170

I've seen other builds like this for two tables, which is a bit more economical.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...and-lowest-starting-denom.114458/post-2355830
View attachment 1433173
Some advice he has also posted which I think is useful.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/starting-stacks-breakdown-t100-base.52967/post-1006296
View attachment 1433177

I have a structure I use which has proven to be pretty good I think. The STT tournament will usually last between 4-5hrs and ends around level 14 when the BB equals roughly 5% of the chips in play.
View attachment 1433180

Hopefully more people can chime in with suggestions, breakdowns, etc.

You think this blind setup would work with a starting stack of 15-30k?

 

[BGinGA]

You think this blind setup would work with a starting stack of 15-30k?

Sure. Just keep in mind that 30k stacks are 1500bb (which is fine for an intermediate-depth/length tournament), but 15k stacks are just 75bb and become short-stacked pretty quick (best used for fast turbo events, or for low-cost entry events with low-cost re-buys, or for freeze-outs with very long blind level times).

 

[buffalojim]

Sure. Just keep in mind that 30k stacks are 1500bb (which is fine for an intermediate-depth/length tournament), but 15k stacks are just 75bb and become short-stacked pretty quick (best used for fast turbo events, or for low-cost entry events with low-cost re-buys, or for freeze-outs with very long blind level times).

150 BB

Beat me to it! I've used 30K and it was just fine.

 

[Uscfan81]

Sure. Just keep in mind that 30k stacks are 1500bb (which is fine for an intermediate-depth/length tournament), but 15k stacks are just 75bb and become short-stacked pretty quick (best used for fast turbo events, or for low-cost entry events with low-cost re-buys, or for freeze-outs with very long blind level times).

We usually have between 18-24 people at our tournaments and I meant to say 15-20k stacks or at the most, 100bb. We have rebuys but I I think 20k starting stack will limit them since we don’t have crazy people playing for the most part.