Strategy tips for short stack/fast level tourneys? (1 Viewer)

[upNdown]

i prefer a format like 25k stacks, 25/50, 30 min levels.
Today I played a 12k, 25/50, 15 minute levels, and the blind schedule was on the agressive side.
I wonder how I could have done better.
My table had a couple of certified loose passive calling stations.
The rest of the table played smarter, but there was still a whole lot more limping than I would have expected.
One example - 200/400 blinds, 5 limpets, I look down at AK, and I think I had about 13k at the time.
I raised to 2100 and got 3callers.
The flip was terrible - possible straight and flush draws, none of them mine. What do I do at that point? I've already put almost 20 percent of my stack in. Donking out a big bet doesn't seem like a good idea at that point, given the liklihood that somebody hit something, others have draws, and there's a calling station in there. I check, somebody puts in a good raise, somebody calls, and that's it.
Was my preflop raise sizing wrong? Is limping an option given this format? I'm befuddled.
I was above average for the first 8 levels, but I always felt shortstacked.
Do you just need to play this like a shove fest?

 

[BGinGA]

Do what everybody else isn't. If everybody else is a limping rock, widen your range and see a lot of flops for cheap, and play them hard when you hit. If everybody else is a manic, be the nit.... and make them pay to play. Only play garbage hands in the blinds.

Under your described conditions, you should:

• see a lot of flops for cheap with decent hands
• only raise with made hands, and raise hard
• don't be afraid to shove your stack with equity
• never slow play (unless you have everything)
• don't c-bet with air against calling stations

You need to double or triple up pretty quickly, and can't really afford to play speculative hands (like AK) for largish portions of your stack. Busting out early via bad beat is preferred to a slow death by blinds/antes. Most 'M' calculation decisions carry far less weight, you should get concerned at 30xBB and shove to get back above 60-70xBB levels.

 

[detroitdad]

I like turbo events. Especially if its a sit n go with a winner take all prize. I do what Dave suggests. Adjust to what the table isn't doing. In my experience aggression work better in a turbo style event than being a nit.

 

[trever]

For your specific example, with 5 limpers in front of you, just shove preflop. Most likely, you win right there (good) or end up racing vs one caller (also good). Regardless of the outcome, AK has plenty of equity against any limped hand so pound it while you still have it.

As played, check/fold the flop.

 

[GrumpyCatMalaka]

 

[upNdown]

Do what everybody else isn't. If everybody else is a limping rock, widen your range and see a lot of flops for cheap, and play them hard when you hit. If everybody else is a manic, be the nit.... and make them pay to play. Only play garbage hands in the blinds.

Under your described conditions, you should:

• see a lot of flops for cheap with decent hands
• only raise with made hands, and raise hard
• don't be afraid to shove your stack with equity
• never slow play (unless you have everything)
• don't c-bet with air against calling stations

You need to double or triple up pretty quickly, and can't really afford to play speculative hands (like AK) for largish portions of your stack. Busting out early via bad beat is preferred to a slow death by blinds/antes. Most 'M' calculation decisions carry far less weight, you should get concerned at 30xBB and shove to get back above 60-70xBB levels.

Thanks. I think this is good advice and it just reinforces my plan to stay away from events like this, I prefer to operate with more information - table image, betting amounts, physical reads - and act accordingly. That kind of information is minimized in an atmosphere like that.
But it also reinforces a weakness in my game that I need to address - calculating equity and odds. I presently operate with a basic understanding of those concepts and a real good ability to guesstimate where I stand. But if I start using actual math, there's a lot of room for improvement.

 

[detroitdad]

I found out I like these type of events by accident. A few years ago we were getting ready for a 200.00 deep stack event. The host held a bunch of 10 player, 20.00 Sit n Goes. I won three of the 5 that he hosted. Sold off two of the seats. I had a blast playing them.

 

[upNdown]

I found out I like these type of events by accident. A few years ago we were getting ready for a 200.00 deep stack event. The host held a bunch of 10 player, 20.00 Sit n Goes. I won three of the 5 that he hosted. Sold off two of the seats. I had a blast playing them.

If it's a $10 sit and go that's supposed to last like an hour, that's fine, I could have fun with that. It's not exactly tournament poker, it's something kind of different that's fun.

 

[manamongkids]

win your flips /thread

 

[WedgeRock]

Fold pre?