Sun-Fly Mosaics (semi-custom) (1 Viewer)

[Nex]

Already have these since a month or so but didn't find the time yet to snap some pics.

I know, these are merely based on a stock Sun-Fly design, but there are modifications! Denomination color assignments, different spots, thinner font, new denominations, and my real life initials added as an abstract logo. Since Sun-Fly doesn't give out the original vector files of course but neither did I want to trust them to do the edits I wanted to my satisfaction, I meticulously re-built all the vector graphics for all those chips from scratch with only a very low-res raster image as reference. Worked fairly well though!

Simply love the simple design, yet with enough subtle details added that makes them not look too boring. Plus it still looks good without edge alignment.

Before anyone wonders about the 1c and 5c denoms, I figured being able to host very low-stakes games as well could help me get some people into poker that would probably never even consider doing so if there were only bigger games. After all, that's how I got into it as well - playing online in microstakes.
Also, who knows what'll happen to the economy within the next few years and decades...

This is a set of 1600 chips in total, with the number already including replacements.
I have made breakdown plans for both 1000ct and 600ct carriers for a number of different stakes - 1c/2c, 2c/5c, 5c/10c, 10c/25c, 25c/50c, 50c/$1 - which can all be handled with that set. I'm rather proud of it, took me a long time of refining.

It is supposed to be one of the two main sets I want to have in the end - the less-expensive one good for carrying around, and of course the one for low-stakes games. For the other set - I'm currently working on a fully custom design for a huge CPC set which I'm going to order this fall/winter. (That one will be fit for games 25c/50c and way further up)

(above is my 2c/5c configuration for the 600ct carrier)

Can add some pseudo poker table pictures later if there's demand.
Pseudo because my living situation unfortunately only allows for a foldable tabletop and not a real massive table...

 

[Psypher1000]

Love me some denominated pennies!

Any samples of these available, by chance - particularly the fractionals?

For the other set - I'm currently working on a fully custom design for a huge CPC set which I'm going to order this fall/winter.

Looking forward to seeing it. And, of course, in for those samples as well, if offered.

Cheers!

 

[Nex]

Unfortunately I have no extras that I could repurpose as samples to give away. It was a very close calculation with the extras that are reserved as replacements.
Of course I could place a new order just for samples, but the demand would have to be really big - minimum order is 300 chips, with at least 50 per denom, at the place I originally ordered mine.

For the CPC set, I am considering offering samples when it's going into the hot phase.
I'm torn though. After all, the sets are going to be used for cash games, and you make room for big trouble if you ever give some away for less than their nominal value. I'd have no problem selling samples of denoms where the production cost is even with or higher than the nominal value, but further up... duh.

 

[Ray-Col]

Nice set! Appreciate the shitload of work you put into the reverse engineering of the mosaics. Kinda interesting that Sun-Fly is perfectly willing to manufacture a 97% rip-off of their own design.

minimum order is 300 chips, with at least 50 per denom, at the place I originally ordered mine.

Mr. Erhardt is a fine guy to deal with but can't ignore given conditions in terms of shipping costs and production minimums over at Sun Fly.

After all, the sets are going to be used for cash games, and you make room for big trouble if you ever give some away for less than their nominal value

The probability that if you send a handful of samples over they'll end up in your game eventually is pretty neglible imho. As long as I don't team up with @Psypher1000 and show up at your game with his samples, you're pretty safe.

 

[Psypher1000]

After all, the sets are going to be used for cash games, and you make room for big trouble if you ever give some away for less than their nominal value.

Theoretically, yes, but that would be a terribly -EV move for me to fly to Germany to get in one of your cash games just to cash in a $100 chip. Not to mention that both poker as a whole and transactions on this site in particular are rooted in integrity and trust. Our word is our bond because it has to be. We're a small enough community that if someone breaks trust, word spreads like wildfire.

So, as much as I completely understand and empathize with your concern, I ask for your trust when I say - no, I won't be cashing these chips in at your cash games

Besides, these chip display cases aren't going to fill themselves...gotta get sample sets to fill them out!

 

[Nex]

Nice set! Appreciate the shitload of work you put into the reverse engineering of the mosaics. Kinda interesting that Sun-Fly is perfectly willing to manufacture a 97% rip-off of their own design.

I've checked back with them if it was okay before I even started working, got told it's all cool. Apparently they are doing that on a regular basis.
But it's not like their design actually gets stolen anyway - they're still the guys who get to manufacture them

I guess for the chinese, it's just business after all.

Mr. Erhardt is a fine guy to deal with but can't ignore given conditions in terms of shipping costs and production minimums over at Sun Fly.

Which is why I included some replacement extras in my order up front... just didn't think of the possibility anyone would want samples of a nearly stock design
Edit: Shipping costs can't be an issue here, they could always just have them sent to Germany piggyback on the next big chip order someone else places. No time pressure after all. It's probably only minimum manufacturing quantities over at SF.

The probability that if you send a handful of samples over they'll end up in your game eventually is pretty neglible imho. As long as I don't team up with @Psypher1000 and show up at your game with his samples, you're pretty safe.

Theoretically, yes, but that would be a terribly -EV move for me to fly to Germany to get in one of your cash games just to cash in a $100 chip.

Granted, the probability of it happening is very low, and I guess collectors aren't willing to break up their sample sets.
Still it is possible in theory, and leaves you as the host with uncertainty... (let's make trust in the manufacturer a given here)

Well, I still have a few months to make up my mind about it for the CPC set.
I will definitely offer samples for the low denoms and NCV though no matter how I decide for the rest.

 

[LinkyBabe]

Besides, these chip display cases aren't going to fill themselves...gotta get sample sets to fill them out!

The Chipsonian

 

[Psypher1000]

The Chipsonian

That'd be @Jeff.

 

[Wils]

I like 'em, but the 25, 100 and 500 chips look very similar stack by stack. Is that the case in real life?

 

[Nex]

The purple one has no denomination, so no $500 there

Yes, the purple, black and green are fairly close together when not viewed in direct sunlight unfortunately.
The purple and green turned out a good bit darker than on the printing graphics, even though I copied the color scheme 1:1 from the original Mosaics, so the stock version must have the exact same issues. Well, colors sure did slightly change with that CMYK->RGB->CMYK conversion, but the effect this has on the colors usually is nowhere this extreme.

It's not noo big of a problem though, as soon as you see the chip faces you can tell them apart very well. They're only hard to distinguish when you can only see the edges.
The purple one has no text on it at all and the $100 has a big 3-figure number while the $25 has only a 2-figure number of course, so even without actually reading and identifying exact color you can see a difference. Maybe I should have added a 4th edge spot bar on the $100 though.

Anyway, for this set the $100s are probably barely going to be used anyway, and the purple no-denom chips will only be used on occasion as tokens for various stuff but likely never as an additional denomination. I have covered all the required denoms down to 1c anyway, so if at all, they'd be used to maybe bump up the number of $25s or so.

 

[Wils]

The purple one has no denomination, so no $500 there

Good point, well made.

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

Very nice set. I like how you designed a ceramic chip with spots that does not replicate clay spots and a pattern that compensate the lack of mold.

Very inspiring for my future cash set.

Kinda interesting that Sun-Fly is perfectly willing to manufacture a 97% rip-off of their own design.

That's probably how copyright works in China.