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Greetings, I'm planning to get some custom chips for home games with around 4-6 players. Anyone have a good breakdown suggestions? Thanks!
 
600 chips for 4 to 6 players... Holly hell! That's a lot of chips! Haha

First off do you guys play rebuys or freeze out style?

How about we run thr #s for an 8 person breakdown (future proof that set a little bit)

Standard T25 sets typically with rebuys are 200 Big Blinds... so 10k starting stacks... I find for single table games and if a few are less experienced that 15k or (300 BBs) allows players to make a few mistakes and survive.

I also like 16/16/8/9 starting stacks... lots of chips in play and not much change making at all. But standard around here we find the 12/12/5/6 breakdowns. So let's start there

8 players of 10k starting stacks... plus rebuys

12 x T25 = 300 × 8 = 96
12 x T100 = 1200 x 8 = 96
5 x T500 = 2500 x 8 = 40
6 x T1000 = 6000 × 8 = 48

So far we have 280 chips in play.

Rebuys:
we are going to allow 1 rebuy per player here. I like getting a few more low denoms in, and never going to use all 8 rebuys anyways... maybe 5 to 6. But

5 x T100 = 500 x 4 = 20
3 x T500 = 1500 × 4 = 12
3 x T1000 = 3000 x 4 = 12
1 x T5000 = 5000 x 4 = 4

That's 4 of our 8 rebuys, the other 4 we just go

2 x T5000 = 10k x 4 = 8

Now our chips set is up to 336 chips.
T25 - 96/ T100 - 116/ T500 - 52/ T1000 - 60/ T5000 - 12

Chipping up:
We typically start with blind levels of 25/50, 50/100, 75/150,100/200, 150/300 and when we no.lomger need T25s anymore it's time to.remove them.

So we have (96) x T25s in play = 2,400 you can do a chip race but I prefer to round up, so I allow 1 extra of the next denom per player so 2400/RU 3200. We want to keep our chip counts in Squareish #s so I would add (22) T100s (2) T500s

Next level up remove T100s x 138 = 13,800/ RU 18,000 we don't need many T500s in play and the T1000 is our next workhorse so I would add (6) T500, (15) T1000.

Next level up we remove the T500s x 60 = 30,000/RU 38,000 I would add (23) T1000, (3) T5000.

We really don't need to chip up the T1000s, it's only a rack in play so I play the game out with 1ks and 5Ks in play.

Our total chip set now
T25 - 96
T100 - 138
T500 - 60
T1000 - 98
T5000 - 15
Total chips 407

For me... I would take that up to 500 and do a bit more future proofing incase people bring friends.

I would order
T25 - 120
T100 - 140
T500 - 80
T1000 - 120
T5000 - 40

Then you can cover up to 10 players.

Always around for any questions and happy to help!

Fellow Chipper
Ben
 
Ben8257 said:
12 x T25 = 300 × 8 = 96
12 x T100 = 1200 x 8 = 96
5 x T500 = 2500 x 8 = 40
6 x T1000 = 6000 × 8 = 48

So far we have 280 chips in play.
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+1 on these starting stacks.

Antrooper said:
games with around 4-6 players. Anyone have a good breakdown suggestions?
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If you think 6-10 players is your range...
I would do a 300 chip set with 80/80/40/80/20 of T25/100/500/1000/5000. This would enable you to do 6 stacks of 12/12/5/6 (and a bonus 7th stack of 8/8/4/7) or 10 stacks of 8/8/4/7.

If you want something expandable for 10-18 players.
Do a 500 chip set with 140/140/80/120/20 of T25/100/500/1000/5000. This then supports 11 stacks of 12/12/5/6 (plus a bonus 12th stack of 8/8/4/7) or 17 stacks of 8/8/4/7. (With a bonus 18th stack of 4/4/7/1/1)

But since your original spec was for a 600-chip set...
I would do a breakdown of 160/160/80/160/40 of T25/100/500/1000/5000. (Note this is just 2x my 300 chips recommendation above,) This will enable you to do up to 20 stacks of 8/8/4/7. (Or alternatively, up to 13 stacks of 12/12/5/6. Or since your first spec was for 6 players, you could do 6 mega stacks of 24/24/12/1, or 20/20/13/1.)

In all cases the T5000 chips are helpful for color-ups or offering rebuy options as needed.

So bottom line, you can do what you need for 6-10 players comfortably with just 300 chips. But there are upsides to going for more if you want to accommodate possible future expansion.
 
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Ben8257 said:
600 chips for 4 to 6 players... Holly hell! That's a lot of chips! Haha

First off do you guys play rebuys or freeze out style?

How about we run thr #s for an 8 person breakdown (future proof that set a little bit)

Standard T25 sets typically with rebuys are 200 Big Blinds... so 10k starting stacks... I find for single table games and if a few are less experienced that 15k or (300 BBs) allows players to make a few mistakes and survive.

I also like 16/16/8/9 starting stacks... lots of chips in play and not much change making at all. But standard around here we find the 12/12/5/6 breakdowns. So let's start there

8 players of 10k starting stacks... plus rebuys

12 x T25 = 300 × 8 = 96
12 x T100 = 1200 x 8 = 96
5 x T500 = 2500 x 8 = 40
6 x T1000 = 6000 × 8 = 48

So far we have 280 chips in play.

Rebuys:
we are going to allow 1 rebuy per player here. I like getting a few more low denoms in, and never going to use all 8 rebuys anyways... maybe 5 to 6. But

5 x T100 = 500 x 4 = 20
3 x T500 = 1500 × 4 = 12
3 x T1000 = 3000 x 4 = 12
1 x T5000 = 5000 x 4 = 4

That's 4 of our 8 rebuys, the other 4 we just go

2 x T5000 = 10k x 4 = 8

Now our chips set is up to 336 chips.
T25 - 96/ T100 - 116/ T500 - 52/ T1000 - 60/ T5000 - 12

Chipping up:
We typically start with blind levels of 25/50, 50/100, 75/150,100/200, 150/300 and when we no.lomger need T25s anymore it's time to.remove them.

So we have (96) x T25s in play = 2,400 you can do a chip race but I prefer to round up, so I allow 1 extra of the next denom per player so 2400/RU 3200. We want to keep our chip counts in Squareish #s so I would add (22) T100s (2) T500s

Next level up remove T100s x 138 = 13,800/ RU 18,000 we don't need many T500s in play and the T1000 is our next workhorse so I would add (6) T500, (15) T1000.

Next level up we remove the T500s x 60 = 30,000/RU 38,000 I would add (23) T1000, (3) T5000.

We really don't need to chip up the T1000s, it's only a rack in play so I play the game out with 1ks and 5Ks in play.

Our total chip set now
T25 - 96
T100 - 138
T500 - 60
T1000 - 98
T5000 - 15
Total chips 407

For me... I would take that up to 500 and do a bit more future proofing incase people bring friends.

I would order
T25 - 120
T100 - 140
T500 - 80
T1000 - 120
T5000 - 40

Then you can cover up to 10 players.

Always around for any questions and happy to help!

Fellow Chipper
Ben
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Thank you! We usually do rebuys, and I got a holder that holds up to 600 chips, so I want to fill it up. ;)
 
Beakertwang said:
If you want 600 chips, 160/160/80/160/40 will work for up to 20 players, if your game ever grows. Way oversized for 6 players, but MOAR chips is always better.
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Thank you, you'll never know if a friend brings friend and a friend.
 
BGinGA said:
20 players: 160/160/80/160/40 = 600 chips
10 players: 120/120/50/75/35 = 400 chips
6 players: 75/75/30/55/15 = 250 chips

But I don't recommend buying a six-player set.
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I see, I'll do some calculations.
 
Antrooper said:
Thank you! We usually do rebuys, and I got a holder that holds up to 600 chips, so I want to fill it up. ;)
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Well I think you have 3 PCFers in agreement here if filling the case of 600 is the main mission :)

JustinInMN said:
But since your original spec was for a 600-chip set...
I would do a breakdown of 160/160/80/160/40 of T25/100/500/1000/5000
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Beakertwang said:
If you want 600 chips, 160/160/80/160/40 will work for up to 20 players,
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BGinGA said:
20 players: 160/160/80/160/40 = 600 chips
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JustinInMN said:
+1 on these starting stacks.



If you think 6-10 players is your range...
I would do a 300 chip set with 80/80/40/80/20 of T25/100/500/1000/5000. This would enable you to do 6 stacks of 12/12/5/6 (and a bonus 7th stack of 8/8/4/7) or 10 stacks of 8/8/4/7.

If you want something expandable for 10-18 players.
Do a 500 chip set with 140/140/80/120/20 of T25/100/500/1000/5000. This then supports 11 stacks of 12/12/5/6 (plus a bonus 12th stack of 8/8/4/7) or 17 stacks of 8/8/4/7. (With a bonus 18th stack of 4/4/7/1/1)

But since your original spec was for a 600-chip set...
I would do a breakdown of 160/160/80/160/40 of T25/100/500/1000/5000. (Note this is just 2x my 300 chips recommendation above,) This will enable you to do up to 20 stacks of 8/8/4/7. (Or alternatively, up to 13 stacks of 12/12/5/6. Or since your first spec was for 6 players, you could do 6 mega stacks of 24/24/12/1, or 20/20/13/1.)

In all cases the T5000 chips are helpful for color-ups or offering rebuy options as needed.

So bottom line, you can do what you need for 6-10 players comfortably with just 300 chips. But there are upsides to going for more if you want to accommodate possible future expansion.
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Piggybacking so I don't start a new thread. Also, I'm new here so if something sounds off please excuse my ignorance.

I just started a home game and we're set on 6 players with potential for an 8 person max. We did $50 buy ins with rebuys. Currently I have the dice chips and decided I want to upgrade so I ordered some chip samples and I'm officially dead set on Apache Royals. How would you go about ordering chips given your recommendation above? Royals are $0.25/$1/$5/$25/$100/$500 and higher. Last time the pool got to $600 total so I don't see a need for anything higher than $25.
 
befamous7 said:
Piggybacking so I don't start a new thread. Also, I'm new here so if something sounds off please excuse my ignorance.

I just started a home game and we're set on 6 players with potential for an 8 person max. We did $50 buy ins with rebuys. Currently I have the dice chips and decided I want to upgrade so I ordered some chip samples and I'm officially dead set on Apache Royals. How would you go about ordering chips given your recommendation above? Royals are $0.25/$1/$5/$25/$100/$500 and higher. Last time the pool got to $600 total so I don't see a need for anything higher than $25.
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Thread 'The Beginners Guide To Mapping Out A Cash Game Chip Set - 5c/10c to $5/$10' https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...ut-a-cash-game-chip-set-5c-10c-to-5-10.30897/
Here
 
befamous7 said:
Piggybacking so I don't start a new thread. Also, I'm new here so if something sounds off please excuse my ignorance.

I just started a home game and we're set on 6 players with potential for an 8 person max. We did $50 buy ins with rebuys. Currently I have the dice chips and decided I want to upgrade so I ordered some chip samples and I'm officially dead set on Apache Royals. How would you go about ordering chips given your recommendation above? Royals are $0.25/$1/$5/$25/$100/$500 and higher. Last time the pool got to $600 total so I don't see a need for anything higher than $25.
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I would probably just do 100/300/200 of 25¢/1/5

That's a bank of 1325, covers 26 buy-ins, more than 3 per player 8 handed. Let $20 bills play if you should exhaust the bank somehow.
 
BGinGA said:
20 players: 160/160/80/160/40 = 600 chips
10 players: 120/120/50/75/35 = 400 chips
6 players: 75/75/30/55/15 = 250 chips

But I don't recommend buying a six-player set.
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If you could only buy in increments of 25 would you just recommend rounding up or down to the nearest 25?
I.e 150/150/100/150/50 for the 20 player breakdown? Or do you then have to start thinking about optimal chip distribution for each player to avoid having too much of one chip and not enough of another?
 
MoarChips said:
If you could only buy in increments of 25 would you just recommend rounding up or down to the nearest 25?
I.e 150/150/100/150/50 for the 20 player breakdown? Or do you then have to start thinking about optimal chip distribution for each player to avoid having too much of one chip and not enough of another?
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Short answer, the round down you suggested is fine if you think 18 stacks of 8/8/whatever is good enough instead of 20.

Longer answer...

You can actually get 18 stacks out of 150/150/75/150/75 and enough for a 19th stack of 4/4/3/3/1. If that's close enough the round down is good enough.

But 18 is not 20. If it's truly 20 equal stacks you need then obviously rounding up is the only answer. Meaning 175/175/100/150 to cover starting stacks (in fact you get 21 stacks of 8/8/4/7 out of this breakdown, and there could be a 22nd stack of 4/4/13/3), but that's 600 chips right there. You probably will need to go to 650 just to add 50 t5000s for rebuys.

So that's the decision. Is 18 close enough, or do you stretch the set to 650 to make sure you can cover 20?
 
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JustinInMN said:
Short answer, the round down you suggested is fine if you think 18 stacks of 8/8/whatever is good enough instead of 20.

Longer answer...

You can actually get 18 stacks out of 150/150/75/150/75 and enough for a 19th stack of 4/4/3/3/1. If that's close enough the round down is good enough.

But 18 is not 20. If it's truly 20 equal stacks you need then obviously rounding up is the only answer. Meaning 175/175/100/150 to cover starting stacks (in fact you get 21 stacks of 8/8/4/7 out of this breakdown, and there could be a 22nd stack of 4/4/13/3), but that's 600 chips right there. You probably will need to go to 650 just to add 50 t5000s for rebuys.

So that's the decision. Is 18 close enough, or do you stretch the set to 650 to make sure you can cover 20?
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Obviously need to stretch to 650 so I have moar chips right? Thanks for the insight. I’ve always wondered that whenever I’m reading through chip breakdown recommendations. I’ll keep the min stacks in mind and build up from there
 
MoarChips said:
Obviously need to stretch to 650 so I have moar chips right? Thanks for the insight. I’ve always wondered that whenever I’m reading through chip breakdown recommendations. I’ll keep the min stacks in mind and build up from there
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The only downside I see to 650 is this is an unusual size for a case. I think there are aluminum cases in this size, but not birdcage style.

But there are ways around this too.
 
BGinGA said:
20 players: 160/160/80/160/40 = 600 chips
10 players: 120/120/50/75/35 = 400 chips
6 players: 75/75/30/55/15 = 250 chips

But I don't recommend buying a six-player set.
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@BGinGA coukd you do the 20 player option with 100x$1000 and 60x$5000 instead of 160 and 40? Or would that be too few 1000’s?
 
BGinGA said:
100 chips is too few T1000s for 20 players. Need a bare minimum of 140 if using 8/8/4/7 stacks and using only T5000s for all color-ups.
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hmmm I guess you’re eighth, definitely not ideal because then you’d have to give some people only 2 T1k and 1 T5k chip. Doesn’t give a lot of betting flexibility?
 

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