Cash Game The 'how many Bud Jones style hybrid chips do I need' thread. (1 Viewer)

[AdamAAAA]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has seen the current group buy and wondered just how many of these beautiful chips I need/want [delete as appropriate] to buy. So, I thought this would be a good place for those of us who might need assistance with working out what is needed in anticipation of the order stage. I'm sure some of us have similar requirements so it's be good to be able to look over peoples orders to get an idea on sets for themselves.

For those who have been under a rock the past couple of months, the group buy thread is here: http://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/bud-jones-style-hybrid-chips.10994/

Thanks in advance to the usual suspects for your continued, excellent advice!

Adam

[I had to choose a prefix, but either is applicable]

 

[AdamAAAA]

My requirements. Any help appreciated

Tournaments
For my tournaments I usually host up to 10 people, but would like a set that could scale to around 20 people maximum. Starting stacks need to support between 5k and 20k each with the option for rebuys and add ons.

Please let me know how many of each denomination I need to buy with additional chips to cover loss/damage.

Cash Games
Typically around 10 people (never multi-table), playing .05/.10 at the moment but want to be able to support up to 1/2 games should mine ever increase (I suspect they could do).

 

[atomiktoaster]

From @jbutler 's reply to my thread:

10 players with an 8/8/4/7/1 starting stack with extra $1000s and $5000s for color ups and possible add-ons.

80 $25 (39mm)
80 $100 (39mm)
40 $500 (43mm)
80 $1000 (43mm)
20 $5000 (43mm)

300 chips total. Double or triple for 20 or 30 players.

http://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/boardwalk-hybrids-breakdown.11665/

I'm going to expland a bit to go with this breakdown:

39 mm
20 x $1 (bounties)
80 x $25
80 x $100

180 39 mm

43 mm
40 x $500
80 x $1000
40 x $5000
20 x blue NCV (show 'em or $20k)

180 43 mm

360 Total Chips

 

[atomiktoaster]

My requirements. Any help appreciated
Cash Games
Typically around 10 people (never multi-table), playing .05/.10 at the moment but want to be able to support up to 1/2 games should mine ever increase (I suspect they could do).

5c x 100
25c x 200
$1 x 200 (300)
$5 x 200 (300)
$20 x 80
$100 x 20

That's an insane bank for 5c/10c, but you're trying to cover a huge range of blinds.

 

[jbutler]

My requirements. Any help appreciated

Tournaments
For my tournaments I usually host up to 10 people, but would like a set that could scale to around 20 people maximum. Starting stacks need to support between 5k and 20k each with the option for rebuys and add ons.

Please let me know how many of each denomination I need to buy with additional chips to cover loss/damage.

Cash Games
Typically around 10 people (never multi-table), playing .05/.10 at the moment but want to be able to support up to 1/2 games should mine ever increase (I suspect they could do).

Tournament, assuming 20-max and 20k stacks as described with need for possible rebuys and add-ons:

if willing to buy a little more to support 12/12/5/6/2 breakdown:

240 (25)
240 (100)
100 (500)
200 (100)
120 (5000)

This would allow for up to 10 rebuys worth of T5k chips which you could alternatively use for add-ons.

If you want to go with fewer chips, you can easily get by with the 8/8/4/7/2 structure which I recommended to @atomiktoaster above. In that case, you'd need:

160 (25)
160 (100)
80 (500)
200 (1000)
120 (5000)

Personally I'd go with the latter since it offers the same numbers of buyins/rebuys/add-ons and it sounds like you'll not likely get to 20 players regularly (at least at this point), so you'll be able to use the 12/12/5/6/2 structure even with the fewer number of chips.

Cash, making my standard liberal rebuy assumptions (2 rebuys per person), assuming 100 BB buy-ins for convenience of calculation, and intending to accommodate two tables of .05/.10 through $1/2:

200 (.05)
400 (.25)
400 (1)
1000 (5)
240 (25)

I would prefer to fill the remaining space in the third $25 rack with $100s, but that's up to you obv.

 

[atomiktoaster]

Cash, making my standard liberal rebuy assumptions (2 rebuys per person), assuming 100 BB buy-ins for convenience of calculation, and intending to accommodate two tables of .05/.10 through $1/2:

200 (.05)
400 (.25)
400 (1)
1000 (5)
240 (25)

I would prefer to fill the remaining space in the third $25 rack with $100s, but that's up to you obv.

Cash is single table only. Does that take you to 100/200/200/500/120?

 

[jbutler]

Cash is single table only. Does that take you to 100/200/200/500/120?

Oh I see that now - whoops.

Yeah I think chopping my numbers in half works fine, though I'd add a rack of $5s to that to make it 1200 chips total rather than 1100 once the second $25 rack is filled.

 

[Mental Nomad]

10 players with an 8/8/4/7/1 starting stack with extra $1000s and $5000s for color ups and possible add-ons.

In the OP's situation - usually 10 players, hoping to expand to cover 20 players at times - I like the following:

For ten players:
16/16/4/6/2

For twenty players:
8/ 8/4/7/2

These are both T20K. Conveniently, 8/8 at T25/T100 equals T1000... so a single T1000 chip makes them equivalent.

So if you structure your set to accommodate 8/8/4/7/... for twenty players, you're automatically covered for a nice 16/16/4/6/... starting stack game with ten players.

 

[MillyS]

I am ordering the following of the hybrids. Similar to you Adam, .05/.10 normal cash games but something that will expand to 1/2 (long shot, but better to be prepared). Max 10 players - normally never play more than 7-8.

39mm
5c - 200
25c - 200
$1 - 400
$2.50 - 200
$5 - 200
$20 - 100
Pink NCV - 100
Blue NCV - 100

Tourney breakdown - hopefully my group will grow into tourneys, 10 players max, more likely 8 players. Either T10k or T20k

39mm
$25 - 100
$100 - 100
$500 - 100

43mm
$1000 - 100
$5000 - 100

T20k for 8 players or less using 12/12/5/6/2 or 12/12/9/9/1 (for T10k, 12/12/5/6)
T20k for 10 players 8/8/6/6/2 or remove the '2' for T10k.

Over the top on the 5k chips I know, but I've developed a disease called full rack syndrome since joining this forum.

 

[AdamAAAA]

I like those setups. And I agree about the full racks. I'm sure I'll never host a 2 table tournament, but better to be safe than sorry as I don't know whether it'll be possible to add on to this set at a later date.

 

[BGinGA]

how many bud jones style hybrid chips do i need

More than you think.

 

[brains613]

Thoughts on my breakdown? I need to be able to run a tourney for up to 30 players, so I'm mirroring the breakdown of my High Roller set that I sold.

Tourney Set
240 $25 (43mm)
240 $100 (43mm)
120 $500 (43mm)
240 $1000 (43mm)
60 $5000 (43mm)

900 Total -

Cash Set - This is pretty much the breakdown of the Four Suits set that I use for the 1/2 game. I only get 60 25's in play before I start using hundreds, and I only use a few of those.
200 $1 (39mm)
400 $5 (39mm)
Use the 25's, and 100's from the tourney set. (They won't be in use at the same time. I have other sets. )
Plus one rack of pink NCV (39mm)

700 Total -

Set Total - 1600

 

[Ellasdaddy]

Need some final input into the final quantities for a small, .25/.25 cash set, likely having to be only 400 chips due to the budget, unless I can score a sale on my other chips and/or have a good night at the tables between now and payment being due... Breakdown I have in mind is as follows for potentially 10 folks around a single table, $20-40 buy in and very few rebuys, if any on a given night.

400 labeled chips

200 - .25c (Are we going with the very dark or lighter shade of this chip?)
100 - $1
50 - $5
20 - $20 (Prefer the $25 but these look great and the denom seems more functional)
10 - $25 (Had to get a few because I'm attached to playing with them at the table. Could easily swap qty with $20)

Add 2 extra chips for each of the five active denoms for replacements.
Add 2 chips each of the $100, $500, $1K, $5K and snapper because I love them and wish I could buy racks full.

Tweaks to get more out of the set? Thoughts on the extras? Am I nuts for getting 2 of the higher denoms?

I really just need a 1000 chip set of these.

 

[jbutler]

Need some final input into the final quantities for a small, .25/.25 cash set, likely having to be only 400 chips due to the budget, unless I can score a sale on my other chips and/or have a good night at the tables between now and payment being due... Breakdown I have in mind is as follows for potentially 10 folks around a single table, $20-40 buy in and very few rebuys, if any on a given night.

400 labeled chips

200 - .25c (Are we going with the very dark or lighter shade of this chip?)
100 - $1
50 - $5
20 - $20 (Prefer the $25 but these look great and the denom seems more functional)
10 - $25 (Had to get a few because I'm attached to playing with them at the table. Could easily swap qty with $20)

Add 2 extra chips for each of the five active denoms for replacements.
Add 2 chips each of the $100, $500, $1K, $5K and snapper because I love them and wish I could buy racks full.

Tweaks to get more out of the set? Thoughts on the extras? Am I nuts for getting 2 of the higher denoms?

I really just need a 1000 chip set of these.

If completely committed to 400 total chips:

100 - .25
200 - 1
60 - 5
20 - 20
20 - 100

But you'd benefit tremendously from adding another 200 chips and doing another rack of $5s, 40 more $20s and 20 more $100s.

 

[Jambine]

More than you think.

I was going to say "all you can get"......

 

[AdamAAAA]

Right, Brexit has screwed up my plans for a very large set, so having to scale back on what I think I want.

Since I have a tourney set already I'm going to buy cash only. starting with .05/.10 as that's the current limit, but want to support .20/.50 with max 10 players.

What would you recommend for a breakdown, and also, with .05/.10 what would you start the stacks with?

Thanks.

 

[MegaTon44]

Me reading: "how many Bud Jones style hybrid chips do I need?"
Me responding (out loud in my office): "All of them"

What kind of degenerate shit is that?

 

[jbutler]

Right, Brexit has screwed up my plans for a very large set, so having to scale back on what I think I want.

Since I have a tourney set already I'm going to buy cash only. starting with .05/.10 as that's the current limit, but want to support .20/.50 with max 10 players.

What would you recommend for a breakdown, and also, with .05/.10 what would you start the stacks with?

Thanks.

All of the below assuming the stakes are close to how the game actually plays (i.e., no triple straddling and huge degening, which would mean you should at least double the number of $5s and $25s recommended).

For .05/10:

Starting stacks (assuming starting with 150BBs - if different just adjust number of $1s) for first 5 players:

20 - $.05
20 - $.25
9 - $1

Starting stacks (same assumption) for players 6-10:

20 - $.25
10 - $1

First rebuy stacks (ditto):

20 - $.25
10 - $1

Subsequent rebuy stacks (ditto):

3 - $5

Emergency subsequent rebuy stacks (in case of @bergs visit) should be handled with $25 chips.​

For .25/.50:

Starting stacks (assuming starting with 150BBs - if different just adjust number of $5s) for first 5 players:

20 - $.25
20 - $1
10 - $5

Starting stacks (same assumption) for players 6-10:

20 - $1
11 - $5

First rebuy stacks (ditto):

20 - $1
11 - $5

Subsequent rebuy stacks (ditto):

3 - $25

Emergency subsequent rebuy stacks (in case of @bergs visit) should be handled with $25 chips.​

I always assume 3 buy-ins per player to be handled by the proper core of the set and then another buy-in or 2 to be handled by the upper denoms which will get in play only on big nights. So therefore the above leads to a total set breakdown of:

100 - $.05
400 - $.25
400 - $1
215 - $5
30 - $25​

But let's get real. That looks ridiculous. So I'd round to:

100 - $.05
400 - $.25
400 - $1
250 (or 260) - $5
50 (or 40) - $25​

 

[dew4au]

It depends on how the table plays, but for $10 buyin:

.05 - 15
.25 - 13
1.00 - 6

For $20 buyin:

.05 - 20
.25 - 20
1.00 - 9

That's a total of 490 chips in play for the $20 buyin. Level it off to racks and you come out with a base set of 500 chips. I'd add another rack of .25 and a rack of 1.00 for rebuys. Top it off with a few barrels of 5.00 for good measure.

Edit. Yeah, what @jbutler said. lol

 

[brains613]

Any suggestions for a smallish cash set? 50/1 or 1/2 for 10-20 players. Need 43mm chips for the high denoms.

 

[ChipTalker]

Any suggestions for a smallish cash set? 50/1 or 1/2 for 10-20 players. Need 43mm chips for the high denoms.

More always seems to be better but you can have a good game with this at 1/2, I added 100 quarters to handle the .50/1. This is for 10 people so if you want more add appropriately.

25c x 100
$1 x 100
$5 x 300
$25 x 80
$100 x 20 (oversized)