Trying to make a Hybrid set that can play both cash and tournament play. (1 Viewer)

[IzzyVas23]

So I'm looking at custom chips and wanted to make a hybrid set for up to 8 people. The tail end of the chips 25 100 500 1000 5000 feels solid to me with a break down of:
100 : 25
100 : 100
75 : 500
75 : 1000
25 : 5000

Each stack would consist of 8x25 8x100 6x500 6x1000 2x5000 to total 20,000 with half my players able to replace

Please share if you think this works or not for the tail end of the Hybrid Set to play tournament.

My other problem is my cash design:

175 : 25c
100 : 1
75 : 5
25 : 20

I can shell out enough cash to meet the buy in but the ability to reload another stack is proving to be difficult. With my Hybrid set of

25c 1 5 20 25 100 500 1000 5000 totaling at 750 chips , well its starting to look pricey for what I'm trying to do. Having Cash games ranging from 40 to 100.

Anyone have suggestions to complete my hybrid design without going beyond 750?

Do you think with what I have set for both sides of play up to 8 people I can make this happen still?

Thank you,

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Why would you do this? What's the purpose in trying to squeeze two sets into 750 chips and leaving yourself with virtually no flexibility? If you are making a custom set, then make yourself something special that will last you for a long time. 750 chips is barely enough for an effective cash set, much less covering tournaments also.

Since you are new here, you may not have read any of the other hundreds of threads on these topics. But it is strongly recommended not to mix tournament sets with cash sets. It only takes one guy who you thought you could trust pocketing a 25 during a tournament and then bringing it back for a cash game to screw you. It's not worth it.

You're putting in the effort to make a custom set. If the budget is tight, then pick one or the other (cash or tournament) to start with, then come back in a few months and create a second set. You'll be much happier in the long run.

 

[BGinGA]

For an 8-player T.25-base tourney set, go with 12/12/5/11/1 =20k stacks, requiring these chips including re-buys and color-ups (actual order # in parenthesis)

96 x T.25 (100)
96 x T1.00 (100)
40 x T5.00 (50)
90 x T10.00 (100)
30 x T50.00 (50)
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352 total chips (400)

You can use the set for cash (quarter/25c based) if you increase the set size to these numbers:

150 x .25 (+50)
200 x 1.00 (+100)
200 x 5.00 (+150)
100 x 10.00
50 x 50.00
----------
700 total chips (+300)

Essentially creating a single set that can be used for cash games and also be used as a actual-cash-value tournament set.

You can also do something similar to this using 25c, $1, $5, $20, and $100 denominations (avoid the 2x jump and requiring even fewer chips).


Totally separate sets will likely need 350+ for tournament and 500+ for cash. A combo set can be had for < 700 chips.

 

[upNdown]

750 chips is barely enough for an effective cash set,

This. Have you actually played this cash game, or are you just planning it? Because I’m not sure if you know what you’re doing.
How are you going to have an 8-handed game with only 75 $5 chips? That’s 9 per player. Nobody’s going to want to make change for a $20 if that isn’t going to leave them with enough $5s to make change for a $20.

 

[exodus]

I can't speak on tournament breakout but if you go for only cash games you will probably want something below for 25c/25c blind. Seems like you are looking at ordering in quantities of 25.
25c - 100
$1 - 200
$5 - 200
$20 - 100 (could forgo this and use cash)

 

[Bacon Dad]

This. Have you actually played this cash game, or are you just planning it? Because I’m not sure if you know what you’re doing.
How are you going to have an 8-handed game with only 75 $5 chips? That’s 9 per player. Nobody’s going to want to make change for a $20 if that isn’t going to leave them with enough $5s to make change for a $20.

True.
But I think the better and more important question he needs to answer is how much money is going to hit the table by the end of any given night. Realistically!

 

[SavageLizard]

Since you are new here, you may not have read any of the other hundreds of threads on these topics. But it is strongly recommended not to mix tournament sets with cash sets. It only takes one guy who you thought you could trust pocketing a 25 during a tournament and then bringing it back for a cash game to screw you. It's not worth it.

I think it depends on the game. I just did this set of 1000 chips total:

25¢ x 200
$1 x 400
$5 x 100
$25 x 100
$100 x 100
$500 x 50
$5000 x 50

I wanted a consistent look that could cover a variety of stakes levels. For our current game it should work well, but I may find that I overdid it with some and/or don't have enough of others. We usually do 50¢/$1 blinds with $1-$3 spread limit for a few hours. For that game the $25 chips likely won't get on the table, and if they did there would be very few of them. When we hit the end of the dealer's choice part of the night, we cash everyone out, I rack all the chips and it's pretty obvious if any are missing. After that's all done, we get out the $25 and higher chips for a NLHE tournament for a few hours. Same thing at the end, I rack them up and would know if any are gone.

I'm not discounting that people could pull shit, and have done so in other games, but the way we run things I doubt it would go unnoticed.

 

[upNdown]

I think it depends on the game. I just did this set of 1000 chips total:

25¢ x 200
$1 x 400
$5 x 100
$25 x 100
$100 x 100
$500 x 50
$5000 x 50

I wanted a consistent look that could cover a variety of stakes levels. For our current game it should work well, but I may find that I overdid it with some and/or don't have enough of others. We usually do 50¢/$1 blinds with $1-$3 spread limit for a few hours. For that game the $25 chips likely won't get on the table, and if they did there would be very few of them. When we hit the end of the dealer's choice part of the night, we cash everyone out, I rack all the chips and it's pretty obvious if any are missing. After that's all done, we get out the $25 and higher chips for a NLHE tournament for a few hours. Same thing at the end, I rack them up and would know if any are gone.

I'm not discounting that people could pull shit, and have done so in other games, but the way we run things I doubt it would go unnoticed.

Good except I’d insist that any game at those cash stakes have a minimum of 200 $5s

 

[SavageLizard]

Good except I’d insist that any game at those cash stakes have a minimum of 200 $5s

Yeah, I think it should work pretty well, but I may end up finding I need more.

The other good thing with this set is that the higher denominations colors match another set of 500 chips that I have (100 x 5 colors), so if I do bigger tournaments I can combine sets and it should work out.

 

[IzzyVas23]

Why would you do this? What's the purpose in trying to squeeze two sets into 750 chips and leaving yourself with virtually no flexibility? If you are making a custom set, then make yourself something special that will last you for a long time. 750 chips is barely enough for an effective cash set, much less covering tournaments also.

Since you are new here, you may not have read any of the other hundreds of threads on these topics. But it is strongly recommended not to mix tournament sets with cash sets. It only takes one guy who you thought you could trust pocketing a 25 during a tournament and then bringing it back for a cash game to screw you. It's not worth it.

You're putting in the effort to make a custom set. If the budget is tight, then pick one or the other (cash or tournament) to start with, then come back in a few months and create a second set. You'll be much happier in the long run.

I appreciate your help. I am completely new and don't know what I am doing for now. I wanted to extend the use of my chips but see that's not possible. In so saying, what could you recommend as a good set for a cash game only. Mind you I only want to host I people and have buy ins starting anywhere from 20 to 50 rang with a reload of double your buy in. What type of denominations would I need to cover this type of action?

I appreciate your help. I am completely new and don't know what I am doing for now. I wanted to extend the use of my chips but see that's not possible. In so saying, what could you recommend as a good set for a cash game only. Mind you I only want to host I people and have buy ins starting anywhere from 20 to 50 rang with a reload of double your buy in. What type of denominations would I need to cover this type of action?

8 People

 

[IzzyVas23]

True.
But I think the better and more important question he needs to answer is how much money is going to hit the table by the end of any given night. Realistically!

I'm new to this all and want to make a set that could cover both game types. Doesn't look realistic. That being said whats a good amount of chips to cover 8 people? I would want to be able to cover a rang of cash buy in from 20 to 100 dollars with a chance to buy in 2x so if the buy in is 20 you can request 40 on top. I'm learning and watching videos on this but I know I am not fully understanding yet. My preferred set would be SB 25 BB 50

Any suggestions?

True.
But I think the better and more important question he needs to answer is how much money is going to hit the table by the end of any given night. Realistically!

I really don't know but the largest I'm willing to have sit at the table is 8 with buy in ranging from 20 to 100 on a given night. I would also be willing to have reloads of double the buy ins. So if 20 is the buy in for the night you can request 2x the amount again for a total of 40. Meaning that night you can hit the table at 60 x 8 if everyone wanted to buy in again twice. Leaving 480 on the table up for grabs. Am I right with my structure of not? Thank you again, mind you I'm new so I'm not sure

 

[LeLe]

My preferred set would be SB 25 BB 50

600 chips can cover Cash Set.

25/25c or 25/50c Stake
25c x 100
$1 x 200
$5 x 200
$20 or $25 x 80 + $100 x 20

If you got extra budget, 400 chips can cover Tourney Set.

You can have your pick from T5, T25, T100 or T500

T5
$5 x 100
$25 x 100
$100 x 100
$500 x 100

T25
$25 x 120
$100 x 120
$500 x 50
$1k x 75
$5k x 35

T100
$100 x 100
$500 x 60
$1k x 120
$5k x 120


T500
$500 x 100
$1k x 100
$5k x 100
$25k x 100

 

[IzzyVas23]

600 chips can cover Cash Set.

25c x 100
$1 x 200
$5 x 200
$20 x 80 + $100 x 20

If you got extra budget, 400 chips can cover Tourney Set.

You can have your pick from T5, T25, T100 or T500

What do you mean 400 extra chips what would be the break down for that ?

 

[Tonystark137]

Mind you I only want to host I people and have buy ins starting anywhere from 20 to 50 rang with a reload of double your buy in. What type of denominations would I need to cover this type of action?

Probably 5c/10c; $20 buy in gets your 200BB; with room for a few rebuys. 25c/25c if you players are more of the $50 buy in type with a reload. I would ask the players.

 

[Tonystark137]

What do you mean 400 extra chips what would be the break down for that ?

He gave you the break downs

You can have your pick from T5, T25, T100 or T500

T5
$5 x 100
$25 x 100
$100 x 100
$500 x 100

T25
$25 x 120
$100 x 120
$500 x 50
$1k x 75
$5k x 35

T100
$100 x 100
$500 x 60
$1k x 120
$5k x 120


T500
$500 x 100
$1k x 100
$5k x 100
$25k x 100

 

[IzzyVas23]

He gave you the break downs

Sorry didn't notice it and looking at the break down I get it now