Cash Game 2/5 Limit Chip Breakdown (1 Viewer)

[fredo]

Looking for recommendations on chip breakdown for a single table 2/5 limit set. Thanks

 

[gopherblue]

2/5 limit or did you mean NL? What are the buy-ins? How deep does the game play?

Limit: I’m not familiar with a 2/5 limit structure, so an uneducated stab in the dark: 1200-1600 x $1 and $200-400 x $20.

NL: 100 x $1, 600-800 x $5, 200 x $25, and 20-100 x $100.

 

[fredo]

2/5 limit or did you mean NL? What are the buy-ins? How deep does the game play?

Limit: I’m not familiar with a 2/5 limit structure, so an uneducated stab in the dark: 1200-1600 x $1 and $200-400 x $20.

NL: 100 x $1, 600-800 x $5, 200 x $25, and 20-100 x $100.

I meant 2/5 limit hold'em. Max buy in would most likely be $100-$150, but I would expect most players to buy in for less. I haven't run the game yet, but I don't imagine it it running very deep-my NL games don't. I do plan to use a $5 chip. Not a fan of all the $1's in these games at the casinos. I find it painful to watch everyone count out 5 $1's when half the game betting is in increments of $5 and most have those chips in front of them.

 

[Old State]

Never heard of $2/5 Limit either. When we used to play $2/4 and $3/6 Limit 200 $1 and 300 $5s worked.

For $1/2NL 100 $1 and 400 $5 is better.

For $2/5 NL the above with at least 200 $25s would be good from my experience....maybe some $100s depending on the buyin. We do $500. If you like more chips in play than buy more $5 and $25. My group prefers bigger denoms and smaller stacks to keep the table less cluttered

 

[fredo]

Never heard of $2/5 Limit either. When we used to play $2/4 and $3/6 Limit 200 $1 and 300 $5s worked.

This was enough for a 3/6 Limit game? No larger chips needed?

The local casino spreads 2/5 Limit and it is what my players are accustomed to so that will be the game I plan on spreading. Undecided if I will have a kill. I'm not a fan but most of my players are-which is strange because as I said, my NL cash games don't run deep.

I have a separate NL set so I don't need to worry about that in consideration for a breakdown for this set. Really this is just an excuse to buy more chips.

 

[davin]

I've never seen a 2/5, at this rate I'd just go 5/5

 

[DoubleEagle]

I cant begin to imagine why a casino would spread a $2/5 limit game. Wierd.

 

[upNdown]

I cant begin to imagine why a casino would spread a $2/5 limit game. Wierd.

More rake than a 2/4?

 

[DoubleEagle]

More rake than a 2/4?

Nah, they would both hit the the rake cap most pots.

 

[Old State]

This was enough for a 3/6 Limit game? No larger chips needed?

The local casino spreads 2/5 Limit and it is what my players are accustomed to so that will be the game I plan on spreading. Undecided if I will have a kill. I'm not a fan but most of my players are-which is strange because as I said, my NL cash games don't run deep.

I have a separate NL set so I don't need to worry about that in consideration for a breakdown for this set. Really this is just an excuse to buy more chips.

Yep. Initial buy in for $2/4 was $60 and $3/6 was $80. We haven’t played that since 2004 unfortunately since cash no limit became accepted.

Is your NL game $1/2? If so what is your chip set like? 100 white and 400 red should probably work for that buy in

Edit: if there is one thing I hate more than a straddle it’s a kill

 

[Jambine]

The local casino spreads 2/5 Limit and it is what my players are accustomed to so that will be the game I plan on spreading.

I think you mean "spread limit". $2 big blind with a $5 max bet?

 

[moose]

No it is a limit game. The next limit was $5/10 so they were trying to make it a natural progression. Now the $5/10 game is gone and they spread $4/8.

@fredo you know the $2/5 game is a white chip game and the next level to move your game to is $3/6, which is still a white chip game and even $4/8 is spread with white so I would get all white chips.

We spread mostly $3/6 with a 1/2 kill to $4/8 and I have 1500 whites.

The thing that makes limit fun is dragging the big pots with piles of chips. The large amount of chips in the pot strangely drives the action which is why they dropped the $5/10 game in the first place.

 

[joepro]

A $2/5 limit is a very unorthodox structure. Typically, limit games are referred to as a "2 chip game" or a "3 chip game." Most are 2 chip games, for example, in a 2/4 limit game, the small blind is $1 and the big blind is $2. So the small blind is 50% of the big blind. A three chip structure example would be a 7.50/15 pink 2.50 chip game. The small blind is $5 and the big blind is $7.50, or 67%. These games typically encourage more action, partly since the pot odds would be increased for the small blind to call.

I suppose the $2/5 limit game is designed to do the same, encourage more action. I would think that a 3/6 game would encourage more action, but I suppose they have their reasons.

 

[rowlin]

Intrigued. Have never played a limit game with anything but a 2-to-1 BB/SB ratio.

I always figured 2/5 NL was spread to avoid the use of fracs and minimize the number of dollar chips needed.

 

[Kain8]

No it is a limit game. The next limit was $5/10 so they were trying to make it a natural progression. Now the $5/10 game is gone and they spread $4/8.

@fredo you know the $2/5 game is a white chip game and the next level to move your game to is $3/6, which is still a white chip game and even $4/8 is spread with white so I would get all white chips.

We spread mostly $3/6 with a 1/2 kill to $4/8 and I have 1500 whites.

The thing that makes limit fun is dragging the big pots with piles of chips. The large amount of chips in the pot strangely drives the action which is why they dropped the $5/10 game in the first place.

Still remember dragging a $300 pot all in whites at River Rock years ago at $4/$8 and the full kill was on. It took me quite awhile to stack those!

 

[JustinInMN]

So if we've established this is a fixed limit game I agree with @gopherblue, bucketload of singles, handful of color up chips.

Limit: I’m not familiar with a 2/5 limit structure, so an uneducated stab in the dark: 1200-1600 x $1 and $200-400 x $20.

Since it's a home game you could probably fudge the singles down to 500-600 and just accept breaking down the color up chips more often.

What denominations do they use at the casino 2/5 game?

 

[JustinInMN]

Okay just saw this.

I do plan to use a $5 chip. Not a fan of all the $1's in these games at the casinos. I find it painful to watch everyone count out 5 $1's when half the game betting is in increments of $5 and most have those chips in front of them.

So if this is really what you want to do, I'd say for your expected buy-ins 20-40 singles and 20 fives per player seems like a good place to start. So overall, maybe 300 singles 200 fives, and 100 of twenty or twenty-fives for color up/bank bulk.

Now the reason casinos don't do this is because an accidental drop of two chips instead of one needs to be a raise. Bets requiring multiple chips have fewer errors because of the protection of having to move half the chips required for a raise.

(At 3/6 a player facing a 3 dollar bet calls if he drops 4 chips instead of 3 and raises if he drops 5 instead of 6. A player has to screw up by 2 or more chips to alter the intent. Imho, that's more of a timesaver than actions with single chips.)

Just a thought if you think it might impact your game.

 

[JustinInMN]

Nah, they would both hit the the rake cap most pots.

My local room spreads 2/4, pots only trigger the cap if 12.5 big bets go in (10 pct up to 5), 3/6 far more frequently.

 

[abby99]

As others have noted, those are strange stakes for limit. 4-6 racks of $1 chips and 3-4 racks of $5 chips seems reasonable, assuming ones are used in the small-bet streets and fives for big bets.

There is no need to limit buy-ins in fixed-limit games.