25NL Zone: Online poker is rigged (2 Viewers)

[djfayze]

you do realize the title of this thread is "25NL Zone: Online poker is rigged"?

The hand in question at the top of the post was 25NL zone. But in post #23 he is giving regular 9-handed games a try per the recommendations of commenters (at least, that’s my guess).

 

[raynmanas]

The hand in question at the top of the post was 25NL zone. But in post #23 he is giving regular 9-handed games a try per the recommendations of commenters (at least, that’s my guess).

apparently this old guy can't keep up.

 

[boltonguy]

Yup!

I played two "normal" nine handed tables with HUD (25NL on ACR)_for an hour and played 108 hands. It was productive - I was up 34BB on the session.

A normal 1 hour zone session (one table) is usually 260+ hands. Variance is much higher especially on Ignition because the anonymous element gives people the opportunity to do some crazy stuff, so I bluff-catch wider, call jams with the 8th nuts, etc. which doesnt always work out. On ACR everyone is playing much tighter (it's not anonymous on ARC blitz) so variance is probably lower and it is more like 6BB on a session.

I will say playing the two normal speed tables was incredibly boring compared to Zone but I did have more time to think and could probably make better decisions. There is a huge temptation to make bad decisions to just play a marginal hand pre out of sheer boredom so I need to ensure that I lock that down and dont drift into pre-flop spew (I'm facing 2 limps in CO and have 7Ts lets limp behind here as noone is squeezing here ... NO!!).

But I still for the most part played GTO (except in one case where a LAG had gone to SD several times and I saw his cards) because I dont have a large enough sample size on most players to get a read, so GTO is the default. I could count on players calling my cbet and continuing with no-pair no draw for example so we deviate there, any raise is likely not a bluff (except when I had a set of 5s and was X/R and re-raised and he called with a gutter (!!) and missed). I think overall its a value-heavy game given the pool's tendencies. I dont bluff much unless I have enough hands to know V will fold as they are often sticky, calling 3 streets with middle pair on a scary board.

 

[boltonguy]

apparently this old guy can't keep up.

no worries man - I'm old too. we'll always bring you along with us!

 

[boltonguy]

Have they brought Blitz back? It's been missing from my client for months now on both ACR and Blackchip.

Oh yeah ACR Blitz has been back for a few months now. And they ditched that "show a card" option too.

 

[grebe]

Yup!

I played two "normal" nine handed tables with HUD (25NL on ACR)_for an hour and played 108 hands. It was productive - I was up 34BB on the session.

A normal 1 hour zone session (one table) is usually 260+ hands. Variance is much higher especially on Ignition because the anonymous element gives people the opportunity to do some crazy stuff, so I bluff-catch wider, call jams with the 8th nuts, etc. which doesnt always work out. On ACR everyone is playing much tighter (it's not anonymous on ARC blitz) so variance is probably lower and it is more like 6BB on a session.

I will say playing the two normal speed tables was incredibly boring compared to Zone but I did have more time to think and could probably make better decisions. There is a huge temptation to make bad decisions to just play a marginal hand pre out of sheer boredom so I need to ensure that I lock that down and dont drift into pre-flop spew (I'm facing 2 limps in CO and have 7Ts lets limp behind here as noone is squeezing here ... NO!!).

But I still for the most part played GTO (except in one case where a LAG had gone to SD several times and I saw his cards) because I dont have a large enough sample size on most players to get a read, so GTO is the default. I could count on players calling my cbet and continuing with no-pair no draw for example so we deviate there, any raise is likely not a bluff (except when I had a set of 5s and was X/R and re-raised and he called with a gutter (!!) and missed). I think overall its a value-heavy game given the pool's tendencies. I dont bluff much unless I have enough hands to know V will fold as they are often sticky, calling 3 streets with middle pair on a scary board.

You have to decide where your priority lies. Is it to play a bunch of hands or win money?

 

[boltonguy]

Just played 3 hours of 25NL zone on Ignition = 762 hands up 28BB. So definitely nowhere near as good in terms of BB/100 as the full ring dozing off games. But boy I just think it's more fun. @grebe despite the poor win rate I think maybe I can get to both at Zone someday (fun and win money). I'm not break even yet this year on Zone though ... still working on it