Ben,
A question for you. With the chips open in racks (Chipco)), are the racks simply stacking on top of the other chips? Or are you putting a layer of foam between the rack bottoms and the chips below?
Thanks,
Mud
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800 chips, Apache 3800 or 4800? (17 Viewers)
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A question for you. With the chips open in racks (Chipco)), are the racks simply stacking on top of the other chips? Or are you putting a layer of foam between the rack bottoms and the chips below?
Thanks,
Mud
Ben8257
Royal Flush
There is no foam in between just like chips sitting on a shelf Orin bird cages, they rest on top of each other. That being said if you are going two rows high in a 4800 case, roughly 3/4"of foam must be added under the bottom row of chips sot that the top rack is above the lip of the case so the top chips press into the foam inside the top cover and hold the loose chips in barrels in place.
This foam is not required for 2 rows high in a 3800 nor 3 rows high in a 4800, only if two rows deep in a 4800.
Great information. What does the plasti dip do? Interested in starting this, thanks for your time. I hadnt heard about reinforcing the foam.
The plasti-dip hardens the foam (not hard like concrete, but just a lot stiffer). This allows to to be more resilient to taking racks in-and-out. The soft pluck foam would degrade quickly without it, leaving unsightly pitting, flea bites, and tears.
Good answer, okay, I appreciate you.
YEEAAHHHHHHH!
It also adheres the pull-a-part squares to each other. Before I applied my plastidip, some of the squares that I intended to stay in started coming out. After only a few hours and putting the racks in and out just a couple of times.
Copy. What was your process? Ive got racks coming in the groupbuy then I'll measure and cut to the dimensions.
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mburnznj
3 of a Kind
1. Place the racks on the foam pad however you want to arrange them in the case.
2. Outline the racks with a sharpie or something that you can make out where the outlines are.
3. Pluck the foam out where the racks would sit.
4. Plastidip the hell out of the foam.
5. While it's drying, curing, look back and be happy.
That's how I approached it
2. Outline the racks with a sharpie or something that you can make out where the outlines are.
3. Pluck the foam out where the racks would sit.
4. Plastidip the hell out of the foam.
5. While it's drying, curing, look back and be happy.
That's how I approached it
Measure 5 or 6 times. Pull once! LOL.
Appreciated! Do you remove the foam, lay them out in sheets to spray?
Sorry for all the followups, I need to break things down in my head if I dont want to keep buying foam to test on lol.
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mburnznj
3 of a Kind
Please, don't apologize....it's what we're here for and why we post. No troubles at all.
So to answer your first question, yep.....sketch,map, out the racks. When you are happy and checked and double checked, pluck out the foam that will be discarded.
Go outside and spray spray spray! I layed them out on plywood boards and did coat after coat, letting it dry between coats maybe 30 mins to an hr in between each spray.
So to answer your first question, yep.....sketch,map, out the racks. When you are happy and checked and double checked, pluck out the foam that will be discarded.
Go outside and spray spray spray! I layed them out on plywood boards and did coat after coat, letting it dry between coats maybe 30 mins to an hr in between each spray.
This is the Plasti Dip y'all are talking about? Seems to be quite a few versions. Just got my apache cases those things are beasts!
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mburnznj
3 of a Kind
Yep, those seem to be the ones you want.
The correct answer, btw, is neither.
It’s Nanuk:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/nanuk-930-chip-case.52076/
It’s Nanuk:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/nanuk-930-chip-case.52076/
Any chance of getting a few more pics of how you have setup this case. I have those same case (4x25) and am trying to get my layout worked out for the Apache 3800, about 700 chips.
joeyshin
Straight Flush
its just what the photo shows...they're just standing up...i put in 10 racks so if you only have 7 racks you have room for setups and buttons..
Recently got a 3800. I didn't want to deal with plasti dip so I found a way to get 1000 chips in enclosed 43mm china chip racks without using the middle layers of foam. Still a work in progress to see what configuration I like best.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/china-chip-racks-january-2023.98897/post-2083840
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/china-chip-racks-january-2023.98897/post-2083840
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joeyshin
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The only thing I don’t like about the 4800 is it has the side buckles as well as the front buckles. I know it’s needed for extra protection but those side buckles always get in the way.
Rengoku
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This is what I have for 600 chips on a 3800. I don’t like the right squeeze. I like them like this.
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Real men can fit them in a 2800. ;/)
can someone explain what is plasti dip in this case used for? where do u spray? advantages over out of the box apache case? i just bought the 3800 and 4800 and am checking out the placements of how others are storing chips ( super cool setups) while i wait for justin cases.
Plastic Dip is kind of a rubbery spray that coats the foam to harden it and protect it from breaking apart. If you don't use it, your foam will not hold up as well. I would not have an Apache case without using a couple cans of Plasti Dip on the foam. It makes a huge difference!
so i spray the foam (the break apart pieces) after i mold them right? or all the foam and little squares? when u say dip, u just spray not dip in a batter / bathtub?
It is just called Plasti Dip. It is like a can of spray paint. Tear the foam squares out in whatever form you like. Then take out each layer of foam from the case and spray it multiple times until it starts to gets a bit of rubbery coating. I used 2 cans per case. Once each layer of foam is dry after you have sprayed it enough put them back in the case. I prefer to spray the edges down with some 3M spray and glue it into the case.
I’m not sure how big the Apache 3800 is, but for those in Canada, I bought a 16” impact resistant case from princess auto (https://www.princessauto.com/en/16-in-impact-resistant-storage-case/product/PA0008486029)
I emptied out 4 sections, then cut the bottom foam to match, glued the two layers together. I also had to remove foam on the lid, but I can fit 12 racks if I need to, for 1200 chips, 1100 is a better fit if I want to carry a button and a deck of cards.
It’s a tight fit when closing it, but there is still “give” on the lid when it’s latched down so I know the foam isn’t maxed out completely. I still might remove more material from the top foam..
Still waiting on more racks and chips… should be here shortly!
I emptied out 4 sections, then cut the bottom foam to match, glued the two layers together. I also had to remove foam on the lid, but I can fit 12 racks if I need to, for 1200 chips, 1100 is a better fit if I want to carry a button and a deck of cards.
It’s a tight fit when closing it, but there is still “give” on the lid when it’s latched down so I know the foam isn’t maxed out completely. I still might remove more material from the top foam..
Still waiting on more racks and chips… should be here shortly!
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Apache #3800 with 1200 chips. 4 x "Justin racks" flat under the on end racks. Fits very comfortably albeit heavy.
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