Not Mine 900 Pharaoh’s on 1stDibs (1 Viewer)

[Coyote]

Reassuring content of e-mail I just received:

"Dear X,

I hope this message finds you well.

Thank you for using 1stdibs to search for beautiful pieces. We regret to inform you that your order for the Pharoah's Poker Chips and Accessories cannot be completed because it is no longer available for purchase. The seller did not update his or her inventory to reflect this change in status, which is why you were still able to move forward online. We have canceled your order and your card will not be charged. Any authorizations still visible on your card should disappear within the next couple business days.

We realize that situations like this can be very frustrating and we take them very seriously. The Account Management team has been informed of your unfortunate experience and a member will follow up with the seller to reinforce the importance of an accurately maintained inventory in order to prevent these types of issues. Rest assured that another such lapse could result in penalties to the seller, including removal from the website.

If you have any questions or need any other assistance, please let us know.

Kind regards,

Larry
1stdibs Support"

Fine with me. Posted to restore that website's credibility

 

[BGinGA]

So now the seller's in hot water with Larry, just because @Taghkanic posted a great deal link and a bunch of zealous chippers jumped on it. :

 

[Coyote]

So now the seller's in hot water with Larry, just because @Taghkanic posted a great deal link and a bunch of zealous chippers jumped on it. :

Your sense of humour -and of reality- verges on the British

 

[Taghkanic]

Don’t mess with Larry

 

[ekricket]

It’s a group of a few people but one seller... not sure where they’re snagging them from but I’ve been watching new posts trying to figure it out...

But yeah China Clay “knockoffs” from Apache. The crumbly ones are the older ones you’ll find on the secondary market known by their telltale and strong crayon smell... I just bought 300 new ones and they definitely don’t smell or feel like they’re the same composite material as the older ones.

The CC smell has nothing to do with their durability. All CC chips - Desert Palms, Pharaohs, Dunes, Etc.... have this smell initially from the materials used. As they air out, or in the case of some of the newer ones that are shipped oiled, the odor has dissipated or has been masked.

Either the first or second batch of some of these had a crumbling problem with some of the denominations, but these are all like on batch 100 so it’s not an issue anymore. The most susceptible seemed to be the Pharaoh 1000’s and nickels, but some of the Desert Palms suffered this as well.

But smell does not equate to crumbly. I’ve been dealing in these chips for years now, not since their inception but for a good while. I’ve bought and sold entire sets - not just a handful of chips - and all these chips have an odor when new. If yours don’t now it’s because they’ve been aired out in some manner.

Ask @Apache. He’s been dealing with these since they were designed, and I’m sure he’s handled and smelled more of these than anyone posting here.

 

[Taghkanic]

So, just to make sure I understand this... Paulson made one type of Pharaoh’s, with a PAULSON CHIPS mold and two-color, square edgespots... And then Apache licensed the basic design but changed the mold, composition and edge spot design? And the first kind is considered choice, but the second is not?

 

[ekricket]

So, just to make sure I understand this... Paulson made one type of Pharaoh’s, with a PAULSON CHIPS mold and two-color, square edgespots... And then Apache licensed the basic design but changed the mold, composition and edge spot design? And the first kind is considered choice, but the second is not?

Paulson>>China Clay

but nothing wrong with China Clay.

 

[ReallyGoodUsername]

Weird then cause the ones I got were still in their wrappings and had zero smell whatsoever and others while it was only slightly noticeable definitely still had the smell. I’ll default to others but just talking to my experience with a few thousand.

 

[ekricket]

Weird then cause the ones I got were still in their wrappings and had zero smell whatsoever and others while it was only slightly noticeable definitely still had the smell. I’ll default to others but just talking to my experience with a few thousand.

Don’t know. I do know that I just sold almost a thousand CPS Chips - mostly still in wrapper - and they haven’t been manufactured for at least three years. Wrapper is not always a good indicator of age, some of the less used denominations may be years old.

 

[BGinGA]

So, just to make sure I understand this... Paulson made one type of Pharaoh’s, with a PAULSON CHIPS mold and two-color, square edgespots... And then Apache licensed the basic design but changed the mold, composition and edge spot design? And the first kind is considered choice, but the second is not?

The original Pharaoh's Club chips were designed by Greg Cagle (chiptalk.net owner) with J5 artwork, and were produced by GPI on the PAULSON CHIPS mold for Trademark Poker (a major distributor), being presold as a group buy on CT (the chips were actually the reason that chiptalk was created). All Paulson Pharaoh's Club chips have 4d14 spots. They originally sold for about a buck each as part of the group buy, and were available later for around $1.15 per chip.

Trademark continued to stock and sell the chips, and a second Pharaoh's Club version (with NCV no-denom artwork) was also produced by GPI on the (then) new card pips (suits) mold using the same colors and spots as the originals.

Trademark also ordered and sold other Paulson chips on both molds -- Top Hat Classics, Casino de Isthmus City, National Poker Series, World Top Hat & Cane. All were were sold through various online retail outlets, supplied by Trademark. Even early Apache offerings on the suits mold -- Private Cardroom, Avalon Club, Grand Cardroom, etc. -- were brokered through Trademark with GPI.

Cagle had a licensing agreement in place for use of the Pharaoh's Club artwork, and when it expired, he teamed up with TheChipRoom to have a new generation of Pharaoh's Club chips (again, J5 artwork) produced as china clays. Same basic colors as the original (for compatibility) but with new spot configurations, plus two new chips (5c and $5000), along with a unique two-sided Pharaoh's Club mold. The cc versions originally sold for about 37c each (after an initial 32c pre-buy offer).

Dunno who is ordering -- or selling -- any new cc Pharaoh's Club chips these days, if anybody.

 

[ReallyGoodUsername]

Dunno who is ordering -- or selling -- any new cc Pharaoh's Club chips these days, if anybody.

Much appreciated on the history lesson! Always enjoy learning more about chips especially the ones I own. As for ordering new ones... >>> this guy <<< bought 1200-1800 from people in various amounts last 2 months but ⅝ purchases had a very distinct odor (sold those kept the ones without a smell) then I did a test order of “new” ones from Apache which didn’t have any then just ordered 400 more which also did not have any noticeable scent. Maybe it’s in my head but I’m happy with what I ended up with.

 

[Taghkanic]

The original Pharaoh's Club chips were designed by Greg Cagle (chiptalk.net owner) with J5 artwork, and were produced by GPI on the PAULSON CHIPS mold for Trademark Poker (a major distributor),

Thanks, that’s helpful.

 

[nitzilla]

So now the seller's in hot water with Larry, just because @Taghkanic posted a great deal link and a bunch of zealous chippers jumped on it. :

We're like the ChipBusters............we came, we saw, we kicked the chips ass.....