atomiktoaster
Full House
I'm with Tree. It's too cheap to fold, and we're not getting raised behind before we see the river.
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AA UTG or "greed might not be so good" (1 Viewer)
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Mr Tree
Straight Flush
FWIW I think there is a pretty fair chance that you have two opponents holding a queen. Your implied odds here are frigging enormous and you have an easy fold for when you usually miss. I feel like this is a super easy call.
Yup, easy call / fold any bet on the river (unless an Ace comes).
Mr Tree
Straight Flush
I see no way you don't get at least one payoff at the river here. Someone has a queen. If say a decent amount of time you will get in a three way all in here.
atomiktoaster
Full House
Mr Tree
Straight Flush
It is entirely possible one of the Qs already has a full house.might kill some of that Q action, but probably helps you keep smaller flush draws.
DrStrange
4 of a Kind
*** Finish ***
Hero thinks the call is very thin if he needs to catch an ace. Two outs with forty-six unknown cards ---> 4.3%, If Hero risks $5 he needs to win a $115 pot to break even. Hero needs to do more than win the $83 pot, he needs to pick up $32 more. The remaining stacks are $11, $31, $16. In hindsight I was leaning towards folding, but at the table Hero decided to try his luck.
Hero calls. UTG+1 now folds. I considered making this an issue because action out of turn is binding if the action hasn't changed. But I decided that a) maybe Hero's call does change the action and b) it likely isn't good for the game to make this an issue.
River: <
> 
Hero holds 
The table begins to murmur things about pocket aces. Hero acts briskly. Hero bets $30 having miscounted the biggest stack. Hero did not want to bet any more than the minimum hoping to get calls.
MP1 calls, button folds. Hero tables aces full and MP1 pops her cork while tabling
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You see, it was MP1 being greedy here not Hero. She flops top two pair and slow plays then she turns the nut full house and bets $5 into the $63 pot. Milking the nuts only to have things backfire terribly.
So it DOES turn out that Hero wins the biggest pot of the night here and goes on to break the game while winning over half the chips in play. Cashing out $276 on a $20 buy in or plus thirteen buy-ins.
But that $5 call was likely a one dollar mistake -=- DrStrange
Hero thinks the call is very thin if he needs to catch an ace. Two outs with forty-six unknown cards ---> 4.3%, If Hero risks $5 he needs to win a $115 pot to break even. Hero needs to do more than win the $83 pot, he needs to pick up $32 more. The remaining stacks are $11, $31, $16. In hindsight I was leaning towards folding, but at the table Hero decided to try his luck.
Hero calls. UTG+1 now folds. I considered making this an issue because action out of turn is binding if the action hasn't changed. But I decided that a) maybe Hero's call does change the action and b) it likely isn't good for the game to make this an issue.
River: <
> Hero holds The table begins to murmur things about pocket aces. Hero acts briskly. Hero bets $30 having miscounted the biggest stack. Hero did not want to bet any more than the minimum hoping to get calls.
MP1 calls, button folds. Hero tables aces full and MP1 pops her cork while tabling
.You see, it was MP1 being greedy here not Hero. She flops top two pair and slow plays then she turns the nut full house and bets $5 into the $63 pot. Milking the nuts only to have things backfire terribly.
So it DOES turn out that Hero wins the biggest pot of the night here and goes on to break the game while winning over half the chips in play. Cashing out $276 on a $20 buy in or plus thirteen buy-ins.
But that $5 call was likely a one dollar mistake -=- DrStrange
Something similar happened to me this past weekend. However, I didnt slow play and jammed on the turn when I hit my full house (I had J-4 with 10-J-4 on the flop, and then a 4 dropped on the turn).
He had me covered and we tabled our cards, and he has a J-6. I'm smiling, Ive got this huge pot in the bag (160-200X BB pot), and a 6 drops on the river............. I was gutted. Sometimes poker happens.
He had me covered and we tabled our cards, and he has a J-6. I'm smiling, Ive got this huge pot in the bag (160-200X BB pot), and a 6 drops on the river............. I was gutted. Sometimes poker happens.
May want to rethink that tall tale.
bentax1978
4 of a Kind
Maybe he mucked his full house when he saw villains' rivered two pair and actually did lose the pot.
That would explain the feeling of being gutted.
Forty4
Full House
He said he tabled his hand, so he didn't muckMaybe he mucked his full house when he saw villains' rivered two pair and actually did lose the pot.
That would explain the feeling of being gutted.
bentax1978
4 of a Kind
Maybe he tabled it and then turned it over and mucked it in disgust? Not even sure what the ruling on that would be.
In all seriousness, I assume he just has his story mixed up.
Chippy McChiperson
Straight Flush
Probably a TJJ flop with a 4 on the turn or a TJ4 flop with a J on the turn
bentax1978
4 of a Kind
Either of those scenarios make a lot more sense since it pretty much had to end boat of boat based on the reaction he described. I'm leaning towards the latter, TJ4, J on turn, 6 on river. I have a feeling he correctly recalls flopping two pair, he correctly remembers the turn giving him a FH (just a different FH than he recalled) and the river giving his opponent a better FH.
TYPO!! I had J-4 with 10-J-4 on the flop, and a J drops on the turn. I jam, he calls and has me covered, we show our cards face up, hero has this because villain is holding J-6 and only has trips, and BAM, a 6 drops on the river..................... Bad beat for sure. One of my worst.
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Mr Tree
Straight Flush
I'm just going to drop this one right here. But I am TOTALLY not bitter about it (I just happen to bring it up still almost three years later.)
Chippy McChiperson
Straight Flush
That's not so bad, he could have hit running diamonds too. I once lost with QQ against Q9 off on a Q96 rainbow flop.
I'm just going to drop this one right here. But I am TOTALLY not bitter about it (I just happen to bring it up still almost three years later.)
What cards are those?
slisk250
Straight Flush
Great ending to a great story! Couldn't have happened to a better guy. I bet you have the gal tilted for a long time to come.
Mr Tree
Straight Flush
Davinci Persianos.
slisk250
Straight Flush
Love mine. Bought them when I read that they were some of the favorite cards at HP.
atomiktoaster
Full House
Da Vinci Persiano (I have a set up as well, in regular index)
I once lost a $700 pot with JJ on a J22 flop. I bet hard the entire way, and when the turn is a deuce, villain calls a $180 all in bet, then flips over AK, lol... River 2. Puke.
Would have been better had the guy had any sort of hand... After the flop, he called around $300 in bets with A high...
That's not so bad. He could have gotten it in on A39r with AA against 77 and lost to running 7s (happened to my dad)
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