Believe it or Not?? Isthmus (2 Viewers)

[Tommy]

What year did BCC start?

 

[BGinGA]

Hmmm.... only 50 ? How many members here and on CCGTCC ?

 

[BGinGA]

What year did BCC start?

shortly after the GPI sale, I think the year after. 2000, maybe? researching....

After the passing of Charles' brother Paul and the control of Paul-Son changing hands, Charles and his partners created the Blue Chip Co. LLC to continue on with their poker-chip manufacturing heritage.

according to manta.com:

Categorized under Poker Chips. Our records show it was established in 2002 and incorporated in Nevada. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of 1700000 and employs a staff of approximately 15.

Before they closed doors, of course.

 

[Tommy]

What year did BCC start?

Doesn't matter. That movie came out in 1989. Lol

 

[BGinGA]

Anybody bother to tell the seller that one of the chips he claims was used as a movie prop wasn't manufactured until at least fourteen years later? Yeah, he's a real expert, all right....

 

[Tommy]

Probably 14 years later.
Movie came out in 1989.

 

[fish72s]

I was so close to reporting him yesterday but thought that 'fraudulent' was just a little too strong so I thought I'd give him a chance to reply.
Fraudulent it is.

 

[chipjoker]

Anybody bother to tell the seller that one of the chips he claims was used as a movie prop wasn't manufactured until at least four years later? Yeah, he's a real expert, all right....

Yes I told Him when I first contacted him.

 

[fish72s]

I re-read his ad. He says "The Real Prop Chips are distinguishable from the replica ones by the Top Hat and Cane icon that appears around the rim. Even though the same company manufactured the Clay chips this is what makes them different."

Perhaps he is confused by the other replicas made on the "Paulson" mold?

 

[BGinGA]

Probably 14 years later.
Movie came out in 1989.

doh, middle-of-the-night posting.... corrected. plus maff iz hard

Fourteen years, even worse....

 

[chipjoker]

Here is the last message from HIM, this includes the names of the books:

His:
books are 007 exotic locations key west license to kill & 007 exotic locations bahammas &007 exotic locations jamaca. As far as chips go all i can say is we disagree. While I do agree that i do not see things misrepresented that s not the case here. You must be open to the fact that it is possible that you are wrong. After all I do have documentation directly from studio and fx company. This isvery rare to have in itself. I do think they would know more about chips than both of us put together.

- reelart

Me:
here is a link to one of the books: http://www.amazon.com/007-Exotic-Location-Key-West/dp/0974324124

I really like this part "You must be open to the fact that it is possible that you are wrong" I know the years, I know the chips, and I veiwed the movie, and clearly HIS chips are NOT in the movie.....

I tried to sell my 500 piece set to him for $2000, he hasn't replied to that yet... He could sell them for 5000, I think its a steal....LOL

 

[Mental Nomad]

So I zipped through the movie online... here's what I found:

Opening credits show chips with red inlay design - two $10 chips are featured, but before the zoom in on the featured chips, there are an assortment on the table, and although they are not clear, it is apparent that they are all unmistakably made with red inlays.

At about the 60 minute mark, there's a casino scene in Isthmus City -
There is a brief shot with a table in the background playing spotted checks, but it's too distant/grainy to make out the chips.
Then there are a couple of extended scenes of Bond playing blackjack with and/or against beautiful women. The table is exclusively in plaques, no chips. Blue 5,000 plaques first, and then white 10,000 plaques in play.

There is a brief scene of a routlette wheel in play with roulette checks. The roulettes are out of focus in the foreground; action is in the back of the room. You can make out the stack colors, but not much else.

I didn't see any other scenes with checks on tables, and even the one is very brief. Need to find a better-quality copy of the movie to try to make out the inlay color on the chips on the background table. It seems they are red checks with red inlays.

Here they are at the 63:00 minute mark:

(This is zoomed in and cropped to show just the table - there are no other shots with chips that I noticed, but I didn't watch the film closely.

 

[BGinGA]

"You must be open to the fact that it is possible that you are wrong"

So long as you are open to the fact that it is possible that you are a moron. Or a thief. Or both.

 

[BGinGA]

I do have documentation directly from studio and fx company. This isvery rare to have in itself. I do think they would know more about chips than both of us put together.

Not necessarily. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Paulson provided home-market chips to the studio (or somebody there purchased them later or separately). And pretty damn unlikely that anybody at either place is a chipes xbert.

 

[chipjoker]

I got a reply back from the seller...LOL

I sent him this link..(thinks it's my site I guess)

http://www.ccgtcc.com/xfantasy/casinodeisthmus.htm

I have showed 5 people the chips that the guy is selling and the movie clips with the chips and ALL of them said those are NOT the same chips..BTW these are people who only know about poker chips because they are on my desk at work....

 

[Tommy]

I'm getting nothing but stupid responses from him. He knows they are fake. Trying to save face I guess.

 

[BiGGyT]

The Casino de Isthmus chips can be seen in "Hard Eight". Philip Baker Hall says "$2000 hard eight" and tosses 4 JB98 $500 chips when Philip Seymour Hoffman is taunting him.

you can also see some $25's and some hot stamps. So, they MAY BE props, just wrong movie?

Seems legit......

Of course, Samuel L. Jackson was also a star, he's in everything

T

 

[fish72s]

Has anyone told him about this thread?

 

[Shaggy]

The Casino de Isthmus chips can be seen in "Hard Eight". Philip Baker Hall says "$2000 hard eight" and tosses 4 JB98 $500 chips when Philip Seymour Hoffman is taunting him.

Seems legit......

Of course, Samuel L. Jackson was also a star, he's in everything

T

This is an interesting curve ball.

My favorite quote from that movie... Philip Baker Hall to John C Reiley. "In my experience if you're not counting cards, you're not playing Blackjack."

 

[BGinGA]

Two Isthmus $25 chips can be seen at the bottom left of screen at beginning of clip, along with four red hot-stamped chips (with blue 312 spots) on the lower right (presumably $5 chips, but too lazy to search them out). When the four $500's are thrown down, there is also four blue THC solid starburst chips in view. Since they were used as movie props, maybe my rack is worth more than I thought.....

 

[Tommy]

I'm done talking to this tool. Someone should tell him he may have the wrong movie.

Or better yet... screen shot that and sent it to him. Tell him you got it wrong and he was right. If he goes with it, then tell him the movie that it is from. LOL

 

[fish72s]

He has another ad for some JB BCC chips at $30 each.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/007-James-B...2682?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123&rmvSB=true

Definiitely misleading. Does it meet the 'fraudulant' threshold by stating
"These are aftermarket Gambling chips made by the same company that made the real props. they are identical to the real Clay Chips accept for some minor details "

 

[Mental Nomad]

Still from the "two thousand dollar hard eight" moment:

 

[BGinGA]

Better than dice chips, but they're not even the really nice shaped inlay versions......

 

[Tommy]

I have one of those starburst chips. It was in the movie. I will let it go for $35 shipped.

 

[BGinGA]

Pretty sure those two $25's on the right are sitting on my table as we speak. Looks exactly like them, dirty top hats and all.....

Those hot-stamped $5 chips are bugging me, though. I know I've seen them, just can't place them.....

 

[BGinGA]

oh, and lolol about a real casino using starburst chips.....

 

[BiGGyT]

Pretty sure those two $25's on the right are sitting on my table as we speak. Looks exactly like them, dirty top hats and all.....

Those hot-stamped $5 chips are bugging me, though. I know I've seen them, just can't place them.....

look like these, but not, maybe that was what you were thinking? New A D D chip search, must find the "$5" chips.

AND Begin.

T

 

[chipjoker]

I'm done talking to this tool. Someone should tell him he may have the wrong movie.

Or better yet... screen shot that and sent it to him. Tell him you got it wrong and he was right. If he goes with it, then tell him the movie that it is from. LOL

Regardless of what WE tell Him or show, he will stand on the fact He got them from the studio (by the way he told me one studio when I first talked to him and a different one the fourth time...), he wont believe that they are from another move, even though the License to kill shows the legit chips and the ones he is selling are NOT THE SAME.....

I am done talking to this guy also but 4 comments ago, I Kept triying to get him to understand that the ones in the film look nothing like the ones he is selling.

 

[stocky]

Can't you get refunds through eBay if the product turns out to be a fake? Maybe someone purchase them then press the issue through eBay for refund. Free chipes.