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25NL Zone fast fold on Ignition. No HUDs, no reads.

Hero has 66 in BB. CO opens to $0.75 (3x, standard), SB flats, Hero flats.

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Hero flops a set. SB leads for $0.75 or 1/3 pot. With the FD spade draw on the board, Hero decides to kick it up to $2.57 or about 3.5x.

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CO folds and SB re-raises to $8.03 or about 3x. Hero?

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Against an unknown? No way in hell (hee, hee, 666 -- Hail Satan!) I'm folding a set without getting WAY more confirmation that I'm beat. He could have lots of stuff that you beat that is consistent with no 3-bet pre. Given the type of player I assume you're likely to see here, I'm probably jamming.

Of course, he's gonna turn over 88 just to make me look dumb, but that's 3 combos. Same number as 33, which he's equally likely to have.
 
Flat. Youre in position. Revaulate on the turn.

If it was me Im jamming. If he has 8s good luck to him. Unless you think the pool is super nitty and likely to fold like a nfd to your shove.

Youre both are a little over 1 buyin deep. IMO this shouldnt be that tough of a decision. As you get deeper I would start thinking more about these decisions for similar situations.

Edit: Based on the stats displyed in poker tracker he has a pair to your set. So are you really asking our opinion or some sort of humble brag? Show us the hands your screw up. Those are the ones you really do most of your learning from. From recent memory you keep sharing winning hands in spots that are fairly trivial.
 
I don't see how. I suppose 88 is in his range here, but so are a whole lot of other things. With a bet like that, I'd guess low over pair or good flush draw. But I can't fold that set there.
 
I love to jam in these situations. I like making a spade draw pay heavily here, not to mention possibility of pairing the board practically sealing the deal for you. If this was the turn and there’s another spade, I can understand a fold here but not on the flop.
 
Nothing you can do about that one. It would be one of the most disciplined folds you have to make but it’s rarely happening. Gotta get your money in. My feedback is one that lacks any info on villain. If I’m playing this guy a bunch and know his patterns, he may induce a fold but 9 times out of 10, I’m jamming.
 
davislane said:
So are you really asking our opinion or some sort of humble brag? Show us the hands your screw up. Those are the ones you really do most of your learning from. From recent memory you keep sharing winning hands in spots that are fairly trivial.
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LOL!!
 
I'd have raised as well. Very strange play by villain to bet small out of position with top set with a spade draw out there. That's either a check/raise or a bigger bet if I'm first to act in that scenario with top set. I'd be betting a lot bigger than 0.75 after that flop. Fair play to villain, he disguised that one really well, but he made it really cheap for any spade draw to call. Bad luck on your part, I don't hate the jam there.
 
When I flopped that boat I actually thought "no way I can screw this hand up ..."
Worst suckout in some time there. I was already spending that guys stack.
 
If this is any consolation, I went from 400BBs to the green in a few minutes lately, in a friendly online game.
First case was K-10 making two pair on the flop, just four-handed. Villain raised and I jammed, and this has been a mistake of mine, being so deep (the seemingly harmless 3 on the board gave him a set).
After that, I got two pair again with K-10 (on an A-K-10 board) , and now, being relatively short-stacked, it was not a mistake (I think) to go all in, only to find out that the new villain had AK.
 
boltonguy said:
@davislane half the hands I post have me jamming into the nuts ...
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My brain remembers maybe like that last 2-3 hands. Without going back through previous posts I recall the last few containing you with huge overpairs on standard boards.

My opinions on the hands aside I do want to commend you on your hard work and commitment to improving. I think one of the challenges of trying to grind the micros is bankroll. Having a deeper bankroll for your stakes will make these hands trivial for you so you can focus your attention on more challenging spots.

As much as I try to think in terms of blinds and buyins, my views are definitely biased towards the fact that if he has a bigger set than good luck to him because of the stakes youre playing.

Keep putting in the work and the results will come.
 
@davislane thx appreciate the kind words. Just had some luck come my way:

Hero 3bets CO from SB.

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Hero flops the nut flush. Now how to get max value ...

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Flop goes X/X. Hero decides to bet tiny on a blank turn, maybe get V to think I'm scared but still trying to steal the pot:

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Hero springs the trap and jams river. I'm thinking "great paired board now if he has a set I'm screwed."

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V calls and his hand is mucked. @davislane your thoughts on this one?
 
boltonguy said:
@davislane thx appreciate the kind words. Just had some luck come my way:

Hero 3bets CO from SB.

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Hero flops the nut flush. Now how to get max value ...

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Flop goes X/X. Hero decides to bet tiny on a blank turn, maybe get V to think I'm scared but still trying to steal the pot:

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Hero springs the trap and jams river. I'm thinking "great paired board now if he has a set I'm screwed."

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V calls and his hand is mucked. @davislane your thoughts on this one?
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Its not PLO. Cant be scared of paired board in NLH. He probably has an over pair with a club or KQc or A8 of spades or diamonds
 

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