Catch non-attentive players up on previous action, or keep it casino rules? (2 Viewers)

[TheYeti]

What do you guys do at your home games?

This isn't the first time, just the most recent; had a player at my last game ask to be caught up on previous action because he wasn't paying attention...twice. "Hey, on the last street, did so-and-so raise or just call?".

Personally, this grinds my gears. I don't think anyone at the table should be telling this guy shit. If you can't pay attention, you don't deserve to know details like this.

AITA?

 

[kaimat]

Catch them up on the most recent action if it is their turn to act.

I wouldn't catch them up on past actions. That's on them.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

as @kaimat said, definitely remind them last action but not past. Im not going to tell other players they cant answer questions but Ill make a point not to answer and say that specifically.

"Nope, gotta pay attention, look at the pot, there's your context. Stop talking about how transformative the Barbie movie was and check like you always do."

 

[LowerBama1714]

What do you guys do at your home games?

This isn't the first time, just the most recent; had a player at my last game ask to be caught up on previous action because he wasn't paying attention...twice. "Hey, on the last street, did so-and-so raise or just call?".

Personally, this grinds my gears. I don't think anyone at the table should be telling this guy shit. If you can't pay attention, you don't deserve to know details like this.

AITA?

Make sure you fill them in on board texture and the tendencies of the other players….


JK.

 

[LowerBama1714]

as @kaimat said, definitely remind them last action but not past. Im not going to tell other players they cant answer questions but Ill make a point not to answer and say that specifically.

"Nope, gotta pay attention, look at the pot, there's your context. Stop talking about how transformative the Barbie movie was and check like you always do."

True…this is why we place our bets/action in front of the players and pot the chips after action is complete.

I actually had a player place his bet all the way across the table (over the pot)….in front of another player. So this would make the puzzle a little harder to solve. He was hammered, though.

 

[Machine]

Poker is a game of observation, if it’s a constant I would only explain the bet is to them, please act.

 

[Budha]

In friendly, home games occasional and infrequent lapses are forgivable. I’ll catch them up. Habitual (same person, every game), nope - play or fold, here’s the bet to you.

 

[Natskule]

What do you guys do at your home games?

This isn't the first time, just the most recent; had a player at my last game ask to be caught up on previous action because he wasn't paying attention...twice. "Hey, on the last street, did so-and-so raise or just call?".

Personally, this grinds my gears. I don't think anyone at the table should be telling this guy shit. If you can't pay attention, you don't deserve to know details like this.

AITA?

On current street yes. past betting rounds no.

Unless there was something odd that happened that interrupted the game. Then maybe a recap to get everyone's focus back on the current hand.

 

[upNdown]

Unless you were on the phone with your kid’s doctor, it takes a lot of nerve to ask for explanations of previous streets.
I’m probably not going to give them a hand summary, but I really don’t care if somebody else does. We’re playing a home cash game for quarters, so I don’t feel the need to follow WSOP tournament rules regarding table talk, you know? But if you think a “no streets explained” rule is good for your game, go ahead and write it down.

 

[Goosefraba]

If they need explanation on previous streets then they should have folded a long time ago. In a pretty lax home game a lot of different conversations happen all at once but the majority of those who remain in the hand are at least half paying attention. As action goes around I’ll announce to the player “it’s to you <Name>” and what the options are (match previous bet, check or fold) that’s all that really ever needed

 

[louBdub]

Table culture matters.

If this is the norm, then that’s the norm. How players behave and play is what they’ve been accustomed to.

I run a tight but fun table. My players know that I’ll literally assault them if they get outta hand, and at a minimum verbally declare your retarded behavior, and request you advance your timing to keep up.

Action on you…

 

[BPTDirector]

Table culture matters.

If this is the norm, then that’s the norm. How players behave and play is what they’ve been accustomed to.

I run a tight but fun table. My players know that I’ll literally assault them if they get outta hand, and at a minimum verbal declare your retarded behavior, and request you advance your timing to keep up.

Action on you…

What he said.

 

[ekricket]

Sorry I didn’t read the OP, can somebody catch me up on what’s going on in this thread?

 

[Highli99]

 

[LowerBama1714]

Table culture matters.

If this is the norm, then that’s the norm. How players behave and play is what they’ve been accustomed to.

I run a tight but fun table. My players know that I’ll literally assault them if they get outta hand, and at a minimum verbal declare your retarded behavior, and request you advance your timing to keep up.

Action on you…

And you stare at people in a super mean way…

 

[louBdub]

And you stare at people in a super mean way…

I love making eye contact with you…

 

[LowerBama1714]

I love making eye contact with you…

I can only hold it for a second or two before giving up all my secrets.

 

[ValueTown]

1 or 2 times, max...then say he gotta pay attention. Keeps it friendly, but also let's folks know they're responsible for game info/actions.

 

[Moxie Mike]

Table culture matters.

Agreed.

Not necessarily relevant to flop games but we play a lot of draw games in the cash games I host... and if someone asks me 'how many did you take?' I'll generally answer honestly even though I'm not obligated to, because 1) watching how many cards each player draws is easy to miss; and 2) I want the courtesy reciprocated.

 

[TheYeti]

Table culture matters.

If this is the norm, then that’s the norm. How players behave and play is what they’ve been accustomed to.

This is a single player, not the norm for the table at all. He's one of my regs and is unlikely to change his ways at this point, although I did finally get him to stop angling a couple years ago. He liked to pick up a stack of chips, reach over the betting line, drop 1 or 2 chips, then pull the rest of the stack back.

 

[louBdub]

This is a single player, not the norm for the table at all. He's one of my regs and is unlikely to change his ways at this point, although I did finally get him to stop angling a couple years ago. He liked to pick up a stack of chips, reach over the betting line, drop 1 or 2 chips, then pull the rest of the stack back.

This dude would get my direct and full attention.

Not every ship self corrects…

 

[krafticus]

my answer to them would always be "I don't remember, sorry"

 

[Machine]

This is a single player, not the norm for the table at all. He's one of my regs and is unlikely to change his ways at this point, although I did finally get him to stop angling a couple years ago. He liked to pick up a stack of chips, reach over the betting line, drop 1 or 2 chips, then pull the rest of the stack back.

That’s not angling, you can find this in multiple rule books. One of them even reads that you can stick say 5 chips in and go back for more chips as long as your hand stays past the betting line.

 

[upNdown]

That’s not angling, you can find this in multiple rule books. One of them even reads that you can stick say 5 chips in and go back for more chips as long as your hand stays past the betting line.

If you’re doing it to gauge reaction, it’s exactly an angle. This is something people don’t seem to understand about angle-shooting - angles are not against the rules! That’s the whole point. Now stop betting like a douchebag!

 

[Goosefraba]

That’s not angling, you can find this in multiple rule books. One of them even reads that you can stick say 5 chips in and go back for more chips as long as your hand stays past the betting line.

 

[Machine]

If you’re doing it to gauge reaction, it’s exactly an angle. This is something people don’t seem to understand about angle-shooting - angles are not against the rules! That’s the whole point. Now stop betting like a douchebag!

I agree, but most habitual offenders are not angling, most ppl doing this aren't looking at others when they do it, its just second nature to grab more than you want to bet, and put out a bet, a stack of 5s to put in 60 isn't angling.

 

[TheYeti]

I agree, but most habitual offenders are not angling, most ppl doing this aren't looking at others when they do it, its just second nature to grab more than you want to bet, and put out a bet, a stack of 5s to put in 60 isn't angling.

I'll have to disagree here. I would say that "most" players doing this are definitely angling, especially in a casino setting. In a home setting, most players who do this are probably mimicking what they see on livestreams/vlogs, but it's still a douche move in my book.

 

[Schmendr1ck]

"I don't know. I wasn't paying attention."

 

[inca911]

“I’ve heard that poker is a game based on observation.”

 

[Lord_Foldemort]

For me, it depends on context. If it's heads on 5th street and my opponent asks me if I was the preflop aggressor, I am absolutely going to tell them to kick rocks. My response is typically, "You can either pay attention or pay for that information at showdown." In all honesty, though, my recall sometimes sucks in home games where hands are sometimes drawn out by conversation, I forget preflop action and ask the table. I don't think it's a sin to ask, but the expectation of always getting a straight answer when you ask is definitely a tall order.