Chip Id ......clay? (1 Viewer)

[colter ripton]

Do these look like clay chips to you guys?

I know the diamond molds are usually plastic but these do not appear to be.

Thanks

Colter

 

[RichMahogany]

Look like injection molded super diamonds. A dime a dozen.

 

[WedgeRock]

Looks like real clay and fake nails to me.

Clay used weird denoms in the early 20th century when $10 was alot of money. Denoms look like an older style too (but denom style and numbers can be faked, for sure). From the case pic, it looks like the red stack has a hot stamp on it... That might help you ID it, but I'd put my money on old clay.

 

[Shaggy]

The case is a clue too. Would love to be able to zoom in on the mold, but my money is on clay.

Here is a link to the Eisenstadt site showing the original diamond mold:
http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/molddesign_geometric.htm

 

[colter ripton]

Yeah I'm thinking clay too..... based on the age of the case and the way they look in stacks.......

 

[WedgeRock]

Is the rubber included?

 

[colter ripton]

Lol good eye

 

[colter ripton]

I'll ask about it

 

[WedgeRock]

I'll ask about it

Just warning you... might be a fruit snack.

 

[superchromix]

edit: my money's on clay

 

[colter ripton]

Other side.....

 

[QuiQuog]

I think super diamonds are a bit more square, the clays are more diamond shaped. I'm guessing... clay?

 

[QuiQuog]

Yeah, plus the gap between diamonds and the narrow inner circle, probably clay

 

[WedgeRock]

This is from the records of Hunt & Co. who did a Diamond-Square mold (tho this order seems to be on the chain mold).

http://www.preservinggaminghistory.com/hunt/hunt.htm

Maybe black was a re-order?

EDIT: Shit. didn't see the denoms. Those don't match up at all. Carry on, nothing to see here.

 

[justsomedude]

This is from the records of Hunt & Co. who did a Diamond-Square mold (tho this order seems to be on the chain mold).

http://www.preservinggaminghistory.com/hunt/hunt.htm

Maybe black was a re-order?

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That address is only a few blocks from me. Kooky.

And I call dibs on 100 clay chips at $1.00.

 

[WedgeRock]

The case is a clue too. Would love to be able to zoom in on the mold, but my money is on clay.

Here is a link to the Eisenstadt site showing the original diamond mold:
http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/molddesign_geometric.htm

Just copying/pasting more info from that link:

MD49 - DIAMONDS (a/k/a RADIAL DIAMONDS) -- 26 diamonds. Most famous period was with the Jack Todd Co., Kansas City MO, 1933-1950, when Todd was killed. Very popular mold in its heyday. The mold has been used since in various forms and compositions. Some make a distinction between the slight difference in the size of the diamonds. ... The chip is machined (many circles like a phonograph).

 

[gmunny]

EDIT: Shit. didn't see the denoms. Those don't match up at all. Carry on, nothing to see here.

Still a good effort. Always nice to check the known records to see if you get a match. One thing to note is with these old hot stamps with just letters, it is best to try to match the font type to what is stamped on the index card. There can be a lot of people/clubs using the same initials.

They look like really old diamond molds made by Jack Todd, probably in the 40-50s.

 

[BGinGA]

If those are plastic chips, they are pretty fucked up. My guess is clay.

 

[WedgeRock]

They look like really old diamond molds made by Jack Todd, probably in the 40-50s.

Agreed on Jack Todd, but probably the 30's or 40's. Jack Todd was killed in 1950.

MD49 - DIAMONDS (a/k/a RADIAL DIAMONDS) -- 26 diamonds. Most famous period was with the Jack Todd Co., Kansas City MO, 1933-1950, when Todd was killed. Very popular mold in its heyday. The mold has been used since in various forms and compositions. Some make a distinction between the slight difference in the size of the diamonds. ... The chip is machined (many circles like a phonograph).

 

[Blaster]

Would these be Burt Co or pre-Burt (USPC?)

 

[colter ripton]

I'm not sure they are worth the asking price even if they are clay...... look to be in pretty rough shape and she wants 100 dollars for them......... they have been up for quite a while though maybe she will take 50

 

[bonesnjnts]

those are diamond mold if I know my diamond mold

 

[bonesnjnts]

I'm not sure they are worth the asking price even if they are clay...... look to be in pretty rough shape and she wants 100 dollars for them......... they have been up for quite a while though maybe she will take 50

offer her 80, ship em to me for 120.

 

[BGinGA]

Would these be Burt Co or pre-Burt (USPC?)

Hard to say. JimB probably has records if it was Burt Co., who was making chips long before they bought out USPC.

 

[colter ripton]

I'll see what I can do I have seen these chips for weeks and passed them over as super diamonds until I took a closer look......... i have messaged the seller but she absent responded yet.....not sure if she even still has them

 

[FDLmold]

If these were in great shape, $100 is about market rate for them (30-35 cents each).

 

[FDLmold]

And who are all these rich guys playing cards with $50 and $100 chips in the 1930s?

 

[WedgeRock]

No "JD" found in Ed Hertel's 2005 price guide for illegals.

I did a chipguide query on the diamond mold and perused 1000+ chips and didn't see this one listed.

 

[gmunny]

Nice find!

Agreed on Jack Todd, but probably the 30's or 40's. Jack Todd was killed in 1950.

I call it the Jack Todd mold, even though Christy & Jones bought the mold and used it in the 50s and early 60s. My records show that Jack Todd was killed on May 25, 1952. You are probably right though, those look older, so probably 30s-40s. Not sure if they were made by USPC or Burt. USPC made the first diamond mold chips for Jack Todd around 1933, then sold to Burt in 1947.



Edited to add:

USPC Records 1933 Samples Diamond Mold Jack Todd Shows a total of 24,900 chips ordered.

 

[bonesnjnts]

No "JD" found in Ed Hertel's 2005 price guide for illegals.

I did a chipguide query on the diamond mold and perused 1000+ chips and didn't see this one listed.

Really. 1000 perused.

I see you.