Cash Game Critique my first FL Mixed Game (2 Viewers)

[Sisu41]

I plan on having my first mixed game tomorrow. We usually play 0.25/0.25 or 0.25/0.50, with buy-ins at 25-50. I'm gonna have the limits be 1/2 but might go up as the day progresses. The games I have planned are

Hold'em
Omaha
Omaha 8
Crazy Pineapple
Stud
Razz
Stud 8
Draw-Hi
2-7 Triple Draw
Badugi

Please tell me if there's anything I can improve in this structure. I'm excited to try out mixed games!

 

[RocAFella1]

Take out holdem

 

[Sisu41]

I think most of my players like hold'em but are more familiar with NL

 

[RocAFella1]

I like holdem but it’s awful in a mixed limit lineup

 

[Sisu41]

ok then, ain't no hold'em then

 

[upNdown]

I like holdem but it’s awful in a mixed limit lineup

Disagree. It’s awful as a standalone fixed limit game. I think it’s great in a mixed limit lineup. And it’s interesting to see who realizes how differently the game plays as fixed limit vs no limit.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Replace crazy w lazy pineapple. (You never discard but can only play 0-1-2) not all 3

 

[doublebooyah85]

If your players are not familiar w these games you r throwing way too many at them in one night

 

[RocAFella1]

Almost every mixed game that I’ve played that included holdem, everyone folded around until the next game came up.

Stand-alone fixed limit holdem is fun when the stakes match or slightly exceeds everyone’s no limit comfort level stakes.

 

[warma]

My crew loves Omaha double board and hi/low variants of other games. Adds a level of excitement.

 

[Joe Harris]

first mixed game

Since this is your first mixed game, I would suggest removing Badugi. It's a fun game, but not really poker, and players tend to either love it or really hate it.

I'd also suggest starting with fewer games at first. Choose 3 or 4, do a few rotations, and then let players vote on whether to add more and which ones to add.

 

[warma]

If your players are not familiar w these games you r throwing way too many at them in one night

I run 4-5 games, run them each an orbit and then open things up. Depending on how many folks are at the table and how fast it plays, you may not make all those games.

If you run stud games, then you’ll need to consider antes. (I use dealer antes and run the game for an orbit to keep the chips down.)

 

[warma]

Since this is your first mixed game, I would suggest removing Badugi. It's a fun game, but not really poker, and players tend to either love it or really hate it.

I'd also suggest starting with fewer games at first. Choose 3 or 4, do a few rotations, and then let players vote on whether to add more and which ones to add.

Yep. Do they even understand the foundation games under each of them (HL, Omaha, Stud)? New games introduce errors and reduces speed.

I ran my social $1/$2 limit game at 50¢/$1 until folks got settled in, like 4 or 5 games. So when someone screwed up, it wasn’t an issue and no one was going to cry over $2 lost.

 

[Sisu41]

I think I can reduce it to 5 games, Maybe, Holdem, Omaha, Omaha 8, Draw Hi, and Lazy Pineapple.

 

[suchj0sh]

I love limit hold’em, but you could just replace it with the pineapple variation you want.

Out of these, I like: Hold’em (or pineapple), O8, Stud, and 2-7TD. Simple, wide variety, build a foundation.

 

[Sisu41]

I love limit hold’em, but you could just replace it with the pineapple variation you want.

Out of these, I like: Hold’em (or pineapple), O8, Stud, and 2-7TD. Simple, wide variety, build a foundation.

alright, that sounds great

 

[raynmanas]

I think I can reduce it to 5 games, Maybe, Holdem, Omaha, Omaha 8, Draw Hi, and Lazy Pineapple.

i was going to suggest almost exactly this if your player base is mostly used to hold'em. maybe throw in SOHE as the crazy game.

 

[Machine]

I’m just here to F~$& shit up, here is your line up. Warning you want to change the blinds to .05/.10 for a while…

Omaha
Derailment
Archie
Bisexual in the middle
Scarney

 

[springbox]

Since this is your first mixed game, I would suggest removing Badugi. It's a fun game, but not really poker, and players tend to either love it or really hate it.

I'd also suggest starting with fewer games at first. Choose 3 or 4, do a few rotations, and then let players vote on whether to add more and which ones to add.

Tbh I think Badugi is pretty close to 2-7 triple draw which is 'real' poker. Agree 10 games is too many, I'd do about 5 at most.

 

[upNdown]

Tbh I think Badugi is pretty close to 2-7 triple draw which is 'real' poker.

Once you get the hang of it, yeah I guess. But I think it’s somewhat less intuitive than lowball.

 

[Sisu41]

I think I'm gonna do something different. I'm only gonna include games with 4 betting streets. The limits will be .75/1.50/2.25/3 for each street. The games I'll have are

Hold'em
Omaha
Archie
Five Card Stud 1-3-1
Triple Draw
Lazy Pineapple

 

[Sisu41]

I'll abbreviate it as H-FLOAT

 

[Dugthefish]

If your regular game is .25-.50 NL, your FL games should be 1-2 or 2-4. The bonus for 2-4 is the blinds will be 1 and 2 so you don't need any .25 chips.

I'm partial to HORSE for mixed games, as I prefer classic games to the ones that seem more made up.

 

[detroitdad]

Take out holdem

This

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

I think I'm gonna do something different. I'm only gonna include games with 4 betting streets. The limits will be .75/1.50/2.25/3 for each street. The games I'll have are

Hold'em
Omaha
Archie
Five Card Stud 1-3-1
Triple Draw
Lazy Pineapple

Wait, why that betting structure? Where did that come from? I think you're doing way too much which is something I've said in most of your threads, sorry!

If you're teaching them brand new games, keep it simpler, you don't make them bet 4 different specific amounts. I'm not attacking you I'm projecting what my players would do. If they're used to no limit or no poker at all, its going to be annoying remembering 4 different sizes instead of two.

 

[upNdown]

Wait, why that betting structure? Where did that come from? I think you're doing way too much which is something I've said in most of your threads, sorry!

If you're teaching them brand new games, keep it simpler, you don't make them bet 4 different specific amounts. I'm not attacking you I'm projecting what my players would do. If they're used to no limit or no poker at all, its going to be annoying remembering 4 different sizes instead of two.

Yeah I’ve never heard of a betting structure like that.

And are we talking about beginners? Can we get some mixed game experts to comment on whether beginners should be playing Archie? I’m more of a horse guy and I’ve played a bunch of other stuff like drawmaha varients, but I’ve never players Archie.

And 5 card stud? I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say that nobody plays that anymore.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Yeah I’ve never heard of a betting structure like that.

And are we talking about beginners? Can we get some mixed game experts to comment on whether beginners should be playing Archie? I’m more of a horse guy and I’ve played a bunch of other stuff like drawmaha varients, but I’ve never players Archie.

And 5 card stud? I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say that nobody plays that anymore.

Lol, ONLY because you quoted me I'll append your reply: no one under 60 plays that anymore. Its a favorite of two old men in the professor's game I go to because they love the movie Cincinnati Kid. Its a slow game and if you have an ace you can just bet at people, its great.

 

[Machine]

Yeah so I like to throw them to the wolves, also we always play Pot Limit, sink or swim

I would lower game to .05 / .10 and let nature take its course.

Archie is difficult new players or holdem players because they often don't understand the low. I've seen where newer players like it because then the holdem players look more scared than them, it really levels the playing field

Take a holdem guy show him archie and he won't bitch when you play omaha all night.

 

[SteveEH]

I'm biased to stud games so...

My group started with HORS but Omaha high instead of 8 or better.

1/2 is a good plan to start if you normally play $25 or $50 NL - my group plays .25/.25 and we started with .50/1 and moved up to .75/1.50 and 1/2 as players got used to the mixed games.

Once my players are more familiar with high and low (razz) games, I plan to introduce the 8 or better games with HORSE.

I'll skip 2-7 games till they're used to 8 or better as the low rules are different.

 

[Machine]

The limits will be .75/1.50/2.25/3 for each street.

Forced bet?

I think this is a bad ideal, you're getting players use to something that is bad form. I would definitely do Pot Limit rather than anything else. NL most players are trying to make pot size bets most of the time.

Pot Limit isn't hard to calculate, there is the odd way and the easy way. I would suggest 3 x the previous bet plus everything in the pot. It just takes a little practice and if you go slow all the players will get it.