Cash Game Curious...1/2 to 2/5 - moar $5 than $25 chips in starting stack? (1 Viewer)

[Naww_Mann]

How come for a lot of the 1/2, 1/3 or 2/5 cash games I've seen on YouTube vlogs, players always get multiple barrels of $5 chips and not so much $25 chips?

I notice that they also often like bet in the ranges of $25-$75 with the $5 chips as well instead of using the $25 chips.

Why don't casinos just give out more $25 in the starting stack to begin with? Is it just a personal preference (more is better/more fun?).

In my first chip set I made with the slugged chips, I can only accommodate 25 x $5 chips ($125) to my 9 players and then top off the rest with $25 chips up to whatever buy-in ($200-300).

 

[umbkcshah]

Mostly psychological things, I believe.

Pots 'look' bigger.
People can be more attached to larger denomination chips (feel shorter stacked) and play tight/loose (goes both ways ime)
More chips better.

 

[rustycheerio]

more chips people a lot of times will be more splashy. the more 5s on the table the better!

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

We love barrels. Barrels are sexy, 20 chips make a 100 instead of a measly 4. And easier to make bets with that workhorse mid denomination.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Because THIS, and don’t even tell me this is ridiculous @Tonysquander

 

[Coyotesetter]

Because THIS, and don’t even tell me this is ridiculous @Tonysquander
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Ya buddy!!! Fabulous.

 

[allforcharity]

There should be a better balance between $5 and $25. But chippers gonna chip.

 

[Naww_Mann]

Because THIS, and don’t even tell me this is ridiculous @Tonysquander
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Holy cow that's a lot of barrels

 

[Naww_Mann]

There should be a better balance between $5 and $25. But chippers gonna chip.

What do you think that balance is?

 

[allforcharity]

What do you think that balance is?

If you have all the money in the world to purchase as many $5s as are in the market, then you can have as many $5s as you want.

If you have a set budget because you're collecting a premium chip set, then the ratio approaches 1:1 for the higher level stakes, and 2:1 for the lower level stakes.
In a $2/$5 game the $25 effectively becomes your second workhorse chip, but even ratios between $5 and $25 probably don't happen until you hit $5/$10 stakes or higher.

Or else I'm talking out of my ass because I don't play above $0.50/$1 (and still prefer $0.25/$0.50), where the workhorses are still $1 and $5; $25 in play is uncommon and $100 is outright mythical here.

 

[Eriks]

As a chipper I understand the ”moar chip”-argument, but I don’t like the excessive amount of 5-stacks when playing. I’d never make a 75 bet with fives if I had three 25s in my stack. With all the talk of chip efficiency around here, the one-table sets with like 800 x 5s really don’t make much sense (imo).

Apparently $5 is the work horse chip for games ranging from 25c/50c to $2/5. Weird…

 

[cpac54]

Because THIS, and don’t even tell me this is ridiculous @Tonysquander
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If we’re honest, that might be just a little ridiculous.

 

[Santa123]

Apparently $5 is the work horse chip for games ranging from 25c/50c to $2/5. Weird…

This!

 

[cpac54]

As a chipper I understand the ”moar chip”-argument, but I don’t like the excessive amount of 5-stacks when playing. I’d never make a 75 bet with fives if I had three 25s in my stack. With all the talk of chip efficiency around here, the one-table sets with like 800 x 5s really don’t make much sense (imo).

Apparently $5 is the work horse chip for games ranging from 25c/50c to $2/5. Weird…

What's the Gematria number for "five"? Surely this can't be just a coincidence...

 

[Eriks]

It’s like the old WPT final tables where every bet were like two racks (yet only a handful of big blinds)

 

[LeLe]

There’s already a shortage of $5 in the supply pool.

Guys need to stop hoarding them, we don’t need that many racks for a single table.

Share around the community to make more playable set.

 

[Santa123]

There’s already a shortage of $5 in the supply pool.

Guys need to stop hoarding them, we don’t need that many racks for a single table.

Share around the community to make more playable set.

Yes.
Please share your $5s. I only need one barrel of IG $5s. I only have 8 barrels. 9 barrels would be enough for me.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/eu-indiana-grand-one-barrel-of-primary-5s.97788/

 

[doublebooyah85]

A rack of $5s per person is perfect and the most needed for a $2-$5 game.

Buy in $500-$1500 is normal and the range at the Wynn.

Start w a rack of $5s the rest however you want in denominations of $1/$25/$100.

Most these comments belong in the controversial thread LOL ;-) kidding of course

 

[Bacon Dad]

“A rack of $5s per person is perfect and the most needed for a $2-$5 game.”

@doublebooyah85
What do you mean “a rack of $5s per person….”?

Are you saying at a table of 10 players, he should have on hand 1000 of the $5 chips total?

 

[Santa123]

@Bacon Dad he wants a limit set within his no limit set

 

[grandmeme]

A rack of $5s per person is perfect and the most needed for a $2-$5 game.

Buy in $500-$1500 is normal and the range at the Wynn.

Start w a rack of $5s the rest however you want in denominations of $1/$25/$100.

Most these comments belong in the controversial thread LOL ;-)

If OP wants the true casino feel at his 2/5 homegame then he should load up on $5. They give them out in buckets.

I personally don't like handling more than a rack at a time, any more than that I'd prefer to colour up. Depends on the types of players you have honestly. I find that euro and asian chippers have a different approach to this though compared to the americans lol.

 

[Santa123]

If OP wants the true casino feel at his 2/5 homegame then he should load up on $5. They give them out in buckets.

I personally don't like handling more than a rack at a time, any more than that I'd prefer to colour up. Depends on the types of players you have honestly. I find that euro and asian chippers have a different approach to this though compared to the americans lol.

Of course everyone should do what they want. But I am surprised that the general advice for a 1/1 game is to get one rack of singles for the hole table. But when playing 2/5 or lets say 5/5 a lot of ppl advice to get 4 racks of $5s or more. I can't figure it out from a mathematical standpoint.

 

[Naww_Mann]

Looks like I'll just have to make a "splash" set and load up on 5s!

My friends are starting to ask why I'm getting new chips all the time and I only have 2 sets so far...

I do want to replicate the casino feel - I've slowly worked them up from 25c/50c to 1/2 and 1/3. Next step is hit up the low stakes casino tables

 

[ArielVer18]

Bigger chipstacks create the illusion of action. If you don't tell the casino cashier your preference, they tend to give you all $5s for 2/5 or below. If you want to start with more $25s, you can simply ask for $25s. At the poker table, players have the choice to color up or color down to suit their own preference. Cardrooms are unlikely to "run out" of chips.

You're getting a lot of different opinions here because most people are budget restricted for a home poker chip set. It's more expensive to have a larger chip set when a smaller chip set that represents the same amount of money will do.

I like to start my players off with big stacks of workhorse chips and let them decide when to color up. It's just more fun this way.

 

[Naww_Mann]

Bigger chipstacks create the illusion of action. If you don't tell the casino cashier your preference, they tend to give you all $5s for 2/5 or below. If you want to start with more $25s, you can simply ask for $25s. At the poker table, players have the choice to color up or color down to suit their own preference. Cardrooms are unlikely to "run out" of chips.

You're getting a lot of different opinions here because most people are budget restricted for a home poker chip set. It's more expensive to have a larger chip set when a smaller chip set that represents the same amount of money will do.

I like to start my players off with big stacks of workhorse chips and let them decide when to color up. It's just more fun this way.

Interesting - Never heard of coloring up in a cash game. Do your players ever do that throughout the game? Those are lots of barrels of 1s - what stakes would this be for?

 

[Bacon Dad]

Interesting - Never heard of coloring up in a cash game. Do your players ever do that throughout the game? Those are lots of barrels of 1s - what stakes would this be for?

@Naww_Mann
Here’s a good video on it if you are interested.

 

[Bacon Dad]

Bigger chipstacks create the illusion of action. If you don't tell the casino cashier your preference, they tend to give you all $5s for 2/5 or below. If you want to start with more $25s, you can simply ask for $25s. At the poker table, players have the choice to color up or color down to suit their own preference. Cardrooms are unlikely to "run out" of chips.

You're getting a lot of different opinions here because most people are budget restricted for a home poker chip set. It's more expensive to have a larger chip set when a smaller chip set that represents the same amount of money will do.

I like to start my players off with big stacks of workhorse chips and let them decide when to color up. It's just more fun this way.

So what does your chip stash look like regarding the number of chips for each denom?

 

[upNdown]

Because THIS, and don’t even tell me this is ridiculous @Tonysquander
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Sorry bud but that’s ridiculous.
I don’t know where to draw the line; everybody has to make that arbitrary decision for themselves.
And all that psychological stuff - I understand it, I just don’t think it applies to most decent players. And I’m not even saying most winning players. I’m making the threshold very low. If you ever decide how much to bet based on how many of each denomination you have in front of you, you are a bad player. Probably a very bad player.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Sorry bud but that’s ridiculous.
I don’t know where to draw the line; everybody has to make that arbitrary decision for themselves.
And all that psychological stuff - I understand it, I just don’t think it applies to most decent players. And I’m not even saying most winning players. I’m making the threshold very low. If you ever decide how much to bet based on how many of each denomination you have in front of you, you are a bad player. Probably a very bad player.

Haha it was after a massive pot, we chipped up and racked up afterwards lol.

 

[ArielVer18]

Interesting - Never heard of coloring up in a cash game. Do your players ever do that throughout the game? Those are lots of barrels of 1s - what stakes would this be for?

Yeah of course. I’ll give empty rack(s) to whoever wants to color up and they can exchange with their neighbors or from the bank. Photo was from a 50¢/$1 NL game.