Dead Guy Milanos (1 Viewer)

[LinkyBabe]

A bit more advise.....

PRINT OUT YOUR LABELS AT ACTUAL SIZE BEFORE YOU CALL THEM GOOD..........

Just on a piece of regular paper, although I found photo paper is a bit better and closer to a label...... This will help you to see or not see details, denoms, and other things that you wanted on your label.

Apparently he already did that... see post #4 & #9

 

[Poker Zombie]

Apparently he already did that... see post #4 & #9

He did that, but apparently he has the eyes where he can circumcise fleas without optics. He might want to pass the label design it his 50 year-old self and ask if it's still a good idea.

...but then I've seen some awful tattoos that people loved, until they realized they were going to have them for life. At least these are Milanos - a much less permanent mistake.

 

[LinkyBabe]

I mean, who takes the time to want to reas what’s written on the chip...

Answer:

Strongly advise printing out a label onto a piece of paper (actual size) and puttn* on a chip... I’d guess your text and images will be nearly impossible to read (too small...).

Maybe do the words on one side and image on the other.

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And it is hard to read

At size, I honestly cannot tell the difference - and I can read the text on screen (though admittedly I have it at 110% sizing).

Go with what you like, but us old guys simply cannot read stull that small.

...and for the record, Mrs Zombie (who didn't see the title of the thread guessed it said "Bad Day". She couldn't read anything on the lower banner, lol'ed when I told her the barrel also had text.

The denoms were readable though, so you have that going.

I have to echo the comments of @Trihonda... I have a hard time reading the text both on my screen real size and printed real size (300 DPI). Because of the font and dark colors, I can't read any of the text unless I hold it less than 10" from my face. I also can't tell if that's a skeleton or Pinocchio unless again I bring it super close to my face.

As for which I prefer, it's horizontal denoms, although I'm not feeling the denoms being printed twice.

big fan of Dead Guy Ale. The text on the bottle is hard to read....only fitting that the image on the poker chip should be the same haha. Horizontal denoms btw

A bit more advise.....

PRINT OUT YOUR LABELS AT ACTUAL SIZE BEFORE YOU CALL THEM GOOD..........

Just on a piece of regular paper, although I found photo paper is a bit better and closer to a label...... This will help you to see or not see details, denoms, and other things that you wanted on your label.

Okay I'll stop ribbing you... seriously though I had never heard of Dead Guy Ale, so yeah if it's as popular as you say and instantly recognizable by your crew, then I totally get where you're coming from. But now you can see why that little omission of info in your first post (even though I responded right after you finally clarified it in post 16) led people down this path. However, like PokerZombie said, go with what you like as it's your set after all.

 

[cascadiapoker]

Thank you all for the input both for and against. I mean it. I have progressed and grown a lot since I first got here, (was it really only January?). Even those who were and advised heavily against some of the details of my initial design still supported my decision! I was hell bent on having a tribute chip for this beer I love. I have since changed my mind though . . . about everything and many times! Lol. Let me take you through a little progression of where I’m at now, with a little about me on the side. (A bit of a read ahead but feel free to skip ahead to just see the pictures)





As I said before, I did not really care about how legible the words were since most everyone I knew who would see these would immediately know this is Dead Guy Ale from Rogue. And as it was suggsted here earlier I did print an actual size copy on photo paper and was pleased . . . for a while. After a few weeks I looked back on them one day and felt it just wasn’t enough. Where I first changed my mind was on the Dead Guy logo itself. I went with the traditional logo with the Dead Guy on a barrel and after those few weeks, decided that the Dead Guy, NOT the WORDS, were too small! Lol. I know, I know, ass backwards from most everyone here. So I created a new design that focused just on the Dead Guy, just like the canned version of the beer, much more simple and too the point with the chip value being same color as the chip it would be on:

After that, I was pleased again . . . until a few weeks later (yes this is the start of a pattern, lol.) So a few months go by as I wait and plot on building my set and my adoration for this new design continue to wain, until I decide I do not want a Dead Guy chip set, because I would like my set to be more universal and more my own. First of all, I‘m crazy for Portland, OR. It’s where my heart is, even when I’m not. So for a new design I was contemplating something more Oregon-ish as that’s how many who know me can sum me up in a nutshell with my current interests. I reverted to a theme I came up with when I first signed up here but had not yet had a design in mind, and came up with this, again with the chip value matching the color of the intended chip:

This time, it only took maybe 2 weeks for me to no longer like it. I also then discovered the poker chip design tool and was playing around with a chip design if I ever got rich and wanted to have CPC make a set for me. I should premise, I’m a big fan of the movie Ocean’s 11. So naturally when I had my first legal age trip to Las Vegas, I had to visit the Bellagio, Mirage and the MGM Grand, lol. Well at the time, I fell in love with the Bellagio as my favorite hotel and casino in Vegas with a few others that I really like, right behind, most specifically Mandalay Bay (though the Aria is REALLY really nice and keeps creeping up each time I see it). Anyway, I came up with a surprisingly perfect name that uses a little of my name, and plays on the whole Ocean’s 11 three casinos theme, while also, includes my car which again everyone I know associates me with since I’ve had it for over 16 years now and it was my baby when I first got it. At first, the name was MJM Miraggio, (italian for “mirage” which is my car, lol and well, you can see what it does to include everything else), and then I just dropped the “MJM” to keep it short and sweet at Miraggio. Now, I could create a remake of the Bellagio inlay, (thank you pokerchipforum for the search feature and those who posted the fonts to use to do so!) but I want to keep that for my dream set from CPC if I ever get rich some day. So what I came up with after, was variations of Bellagio’s Poker Room NCV’s. So I first came up with one design, and then I modified it after printing it:

I liked this one a lot, especially the name but alas, more weeks went by, and I just wasn’t feeling this new more basic design either. There is nothing wrong with it at all in my opinion, it just seemed too basic when I felt I could do more. I started toying with the idea of a pirate theme since that is sort of the feel I get from the colors of the Milano chips that I intend to use. I already had that feel earlier on with the Dead Guy Ale theme. I thought of using the skull from Pirates of the Caribbean but that brought back to not having something of my own. Then I thought trying some sort of sexy girl pirate design, and came up with this:

Now I do like it, but I just knew eventually I’d come across a female, either a girlfriend or new player who didn’t like it at all and felt offended in some way. So I just stowed it aside for maybe something else later. Now I’m back to nothing until a couple months ago, I remember how much I like Mandalay Bay. At first I tried to do something with the Mandalay Bay, “M” logo but I can’t seem to figure how to change the color to a teal as I’d have preferred. I tried to design a wave using “M M” but I just wasn’t feeling it. So then like the female pirate, I tried a picture of wave and then the pieces just started falling together. I ended up coming up with “The Bay” by Miraggio, sort of like a Vdara by Aria or Encore by Wynn idea. Now the problem is that this new idea is sort of dependent on me getting rich to blow $6k total on a 1000 chip cash set and a 1000 chip tourney set at CPC, with my Miraggio/Bellagio Casino inspired chip theme. Otherwise I have nothing else Miraggio and have to explain should anyone ask. But at this point, I really don’t care. I absolutely love this design and this time, for all you “chip readers” out there, I made the text readable! Plus it’s lasted 2 months without me even thinking of changing my mind! Lol. So here is where I’m at now:

For those of you who stuck around to read this, what do you think? I’m in need of a small 250-300 chip tourney set for more immediate purposes, and I’m thinking of using that need to get a head start on this customized Milano chip idea.

 

[v1pe]

Not to throw a wrench in your plans, but have you considered custom ceramics instead of labeled CC's? You get a higher quality chip, more face space to print on, significantly less work (labeling is tedious), and all for probably a similar price all in.

Regarding the designs they are all a bit too busy for my tastes... But I think I like the Dead Guy and Cascades designs the most as concepts.

Side note, do you live in Oregon? PDX or elsewhere?

 

[cascadiapoker]

Lol, I have but I prefer clay to ceramics, except if it’s the Tiki Kings chips. I’ve never had trouble investing time into the things that I want, so as tedious as it will be, the end product would be worth it to me.

The biggest problem I had with the Cascades is once you shrink it to scale, everything just gest middled into a blurry mass, even with the best printer and highest resolution.

And not yet! I plan on moving there within the next year or 2, depending on my car situation. Despite being my baby and my first car, it is 16 years old now, lol. But I do visit frequently. I have friends who live in Bend, that used to live in Portland which makes it quite easy to keep going back.

 

[cascadiapoker]

“the Cascades . . . everything *gets muddled* . . . “

 

[toynoob]

I agree all the designs to me are really busy. Don't give up on customs you will eventually get it. Ceramics is the way to go. Sell the CCs and you will be a lot happier IMO

 

[cascadiapoker]

I do plan on eventually getting a Tiki Kings ceramic set as soon as I can. I freaking love those! So don’t think I’m totally biased against them or anything. It’s just that I really do like the feel of the Milanos, I know, call me crazy! But that has been my honest and still true opinion snce the beginning of alll this. And I’ve been dipping some of my funds into the marketplace in getting a tatse of other chips too! So this really is already an experimented plan. Plus the cost per chip with having Gear do the labels is cheap enough to not worry about it. I could decide to want to a custom ceramic set later, among the multpile sets I already plan on getting, aside from the one I hope to some day have enofh money to get, but this is a great way for me to get a full set of a chip I really like with my own flare, in the very near future.

 

[cascadiapoker]

One of the many things I like about this latest design, is yes, up close it seems very busy, which is why before the Surrender the Booty idea, I went with a more basic design, just text with vignette, but when you shrink it to size, and put it on a chip, it some simplifies and crazily all blends together quite nicely! At least in my opinion, lol. It looks simple enough at first until you really start to look at it, and that’s when the bonus stuff starts to come into view, for a noce little “whoa” or “cool”.

 

[asian bino]

Surprised no one has mentioned trademark infringement

 

[v1pe]

Just my 2c, but if I was starting over again and wanted to go with customs, I would hold onto my funds until I could afford a set used Paulson chips (mixed) to do a full relabel with nice Gear labels.

 

[toynoob]

Surprised no one has mentioned trademark infringement

It's a home personal set not for resale. They could go after him technically, but would they? Na... I see it as free advertising.

 

[v1pe]

Surprised no one has mentioned trademark infringement

If he was going to make them commercially someone might... But this is a small set of chips too be used in a private home game. Free advertising for Rogue more than anything else IMO.

 

[toynoob]

If he was going to make them commercially someone might... But this is a small set of chips too be used in a private home game. Free advertising for Rogue more than anything else IMO.

Beat you to it

 

[cascadiapoker]

As I said when I updated this thread, I’ve gone away from the Dead Guy chip theme, as it just didn’t feel like my own or personal to me enough.

And also as I said before, I’m not at all rich in anyway which is why I chose the Milanos. Unfortunately, I don’t have anywhere near the money to go hunting for Paulsons to then still go relabel anyway. I’m planning on using this toward a combined cash and tourney set of 2000 chips, with 11 chip values; 5¢ (because again, I and also the people I play with are not rich, so meeting up weekly for $1/$2 cash games is out of the question where as 5¢/10¢ cash games are much more affordable for us where only a $20-$30 buy in can still get a good anount of playing time, and that’s not to mention that we prefer playing tourney style more often over cash games) followed by 25¢, $1, $5, $25, $100, $500, $1k and $5k. I’ve already seen throughout here how frustrating it is and what kind of nightmare it can be like trying just to piece together a full set of only 500 chips using Paulsons, and aside from the fact that it is difficult to get enough of one value/color let alone 11, once you start getting past $1 and $5 chips (which is on the average cheapest at arounf $3 per chip) the price per chip goes through the roof and exponentially more per value/color. And my personal opinion and choice if I did have the money, would be to just head on over to CPC where I have full control over the mold, egde spots and inlay all at once, and would still end up being quite cheaper than Paulsons for that many chips with that range of chip values. So at 62¢, for both the Milano chip and the 2 labels per chip, even just on a starter tourney set of 250 chips will not be a big regret if I change my mind on the design in the future. I do really like the feel of Milanos the most, as compared to going real clay which I can’t afford in the forseeable future, and having a set of 2000 with my own label design feels great already, especially at more affordable cost that I can continue to piece together over a much shorter time and which will still be, by far, the most coveted piece in my poker circle.

In the mean time, just a little idea of what my current desing choice on a Milano chip would look like:

 

[Poker Zombie]

You really have to go with what you love, but make it appealing to your players too.

I've seen some very personal designs go through that I found dread-awful. The host loves them, but .

As general rules...

• Avoid really busy labels. Less is more when you are dealing with less than 1 square inch of space.
• Make the denom big*, and preferably a different color than any other text on the chip.
• No text should be very small*
• Check out the Hall of Fame resource. You will find a common theme of a single, often 1 or 2 color graphic, and a denom you can read if the label were printed at 1/4 size.

* I have done research on font sizes of various casino poker chips, including city font size, Casino name font size, and Denom font size. Unfortunately that information is at home right now (I'm not), but if you remind me on Sunday I can get that information for you.

 

[v1pe]

As I said when I updated this thread, I’ve gone away from the Dead Guy chip theme, as it just didn’t feel like my own or personal to me enough.

And also as I said before, I’m not at all rich in anyway which is why I chose the Milanos. Unfortunately, I don’t have anywhere near the money to go hunting for Paulsons to then still go relabel anyway. I’m planning on using this toward a combined cash and tourney set of 2000 chips, with 11 chip values; 5¢ (because again, I and also the people I play with are not rich, so meeting up weekly for $1/$2 cash games is out of the question where as 5¢/10¢ cash games are much more affordable for us where only a $20-$30 buy in can still get a good anount of playing time, and that’s not to mention that we prefer playing tourney style more often over cash games) followed by 25¢, $1, $5, $25, $100, $500, $1k and $5k. I’ve already seen throughout here how frustrating it is and what kind of nightmare it can be like trying just to piece together a full set of only 500 chips using Paulsons, and aside from the fact that it is difficult to get enough of one value/color let alone 11, once you start getting past $1 and $5 chips (which is on the average cheapest at arounf $3 per chip) the price per chip goes through the roof and exponentially more per value/color. And my personal opinion and choice if I did have the money, would be to just head on over to CPC where I have full control over the mold, egde spots and inlay all at once, and would still end up being quite cheaper than Paulsons for that many chips with that range of chip values. So at 62¢, for both the Milano chip and the 2 labels per chip, even just on a starter tourney set of 250 chips will not be a big regret if I change my mind on the design in the future. I do really like the feel of Milanos the most, as compared to going real clay which I can’t afford in the forseeable future, and having a set of 2000 with my own label design feels great already, especially at more affordable cost that I can continue to piece together over a much shorter time and which will still be, by far, the most coveted piece in my poker circle.

In the mean time, just a little idea of what my current desing choice on a Milano chip would look like:

To each his own, but I do think you are overestimating what pretty good quality RHC casino used Paulson chips can cost.

I put together my set of mixed RHC chips at an average cost of $0.93/chip including all shipping costs:

150 x 36mm Horseshoe T25s (to use a quarters)
220 x Horseshoe Cincy $1s
400 x Cleopatra's Cable Bridge $5s
200 x Aztar Evans $25s
20 x Native Lights $100s (not pictured)



My original plan was a re-label, but I have a plenty playable set at 25c/25c blinds (my friends and I aren't wealthy either, using $20 - $60 buy in) until if/when I do decide invest in a relabel project. If I decide to go another direction, I can pretty easily resell all of these chips for what I purchased them for (which is not something you can say about CCs which typically depreciate in value).

Still...not trying to convince you!. If you believe you will be happy with Milano chips in the longer term than you should definitely go that route. I only suggest going straight into Paulson (even if it's cheaper used Paulson) because I personally somewhat regret purchasing China Clay chips early on, only to turn around and sell them fairly quickly (3-6 months) to upgrade to real clay chips. I believe that many other folks around here would say they have similar regrets.

But then again...maybe you aren't quite as sick as the rest of us

Regarding the design...in my opinion it's a bit busy...I would do away with the stylized "M" in the background, try to increase the font size of the denomination, and either use a less busy background or a more contrasting color for the foreground "The Bay" text. I like where you're going with it though.

 

[cascadiapoker]

Thank you all again for the input! I disagree with some of you outright, lol, but still getting as many opinions as possible is always going to be helpful, even the ones that contest me in every way.

As far as piecing Paulsons go, in case you haven’t realized, I’m very picky! Lol. Thanks to this forum, I got my hands on a few barrels of differnt Garden City chips, not to contemplate building a set, but just for overall collecting and playing/shuffling with. The problem for me with used Pauslons, is all the ware and tear, flea bites, etc. that they already have. I got a sample set plus a barrel of the Rounders CSQ chips from CPC, plus a few barrels of live casino chips that are in excellent near mint condition that I’ve collected, and I only want as close to new as possible! Lol. Now I know that over time my chips will get used up and worn and chipped, and all, but this will also only ne one of multiple sets I intend on buying (all of which combined, will still only be a quarter of the price of if I went full CPC!) Plus let’s not forget . . . There my chips and I can be as picky as I want, dammit! . . . Lol. My intention is that when we play, we not only get to decide what game to play, but also which set to use that day. I’m a big fan of Hobbyphilic’s channel on youtube! Lol. So that will help keep my sharp edges for a bit longer, lol. And If I go Paulsons already with sharp edges and near mint, then that’s where those high prices come in.

And that’s actually very helpful info at the end there. I should probably drop the whole “By Miraggio” idea on the chip design. The thought is nice but without actually having “Miraggio” chips that I only WISH to have from CPC right now, it just seems confusing . . . I guess, lol. I did the M because I still wanted sort of my name on it somehow, and I also really wanted gold on it, kind of like the Mandaly Bay colors. But I suppose I can do some sort of initials or 3 letter word to go with Bay insted of “the”. And I suppose ditching the background M along with By Miraggio will help please all the “too busy” folks, lol. The color for “The Bay” was difficult to choose, because the colors just clashed too much and I did settle on a darker gray which up close contrasted beautifully. The problem is that anything darker than what it is now, when you print it out to actual 1 inch size, even at 1000 dpi resolution, the “The” just blended in and got lost in the vignette and dark side of the wave. Hmmm. Maybe some more toying around is in order. Damn you all! Haters, just haters! The lot of you! Lol, just kidding!

 

[cascadiapoker]

 

[aaronroch]

Cascadia poker, I’m much farther down the custom label Milano rabbit hole than you are.

Have you bought your chips yet?
Here’s what I wish I knew at the start:

You can’t add on to your set later.

Every batch of Milano’s is different. And I don’t mean a little different- I mean they are completely different chips. Search “Milano” threads here.

If I had it to do all over again, I’d buy the set of tournament Cincinnati chips that are for sale right now in the forum for 0.65 each, and eventually relabel those. Because you’ll be able to add on to THAT set later.

 

[DeeVee8]

As I said when I updated this thread, I’ve gone away from the Dead Guy chip theme, as it just didn’t feel like my own or personal to me enough.

And also as I said before, I’m not at all rich in anyway which is why I chose the Milanos. Unfortunately, I don’t have anywhere near the money to go hunting for Paulsons to then still go relabel anyway. I’m planning on using this toward a combined cash and tourney set of 2000 chips, with 11 chip values; 5¢ (because again, I and also the people I play with are not rich, so meeting up weekly for $1/$2 cash games is out of the question where as 5¢/10¢ cash games are much more affordable for us where only a $20-$30 buy in can still get a good anount of playing time, and that’s not to mention that we prefer playing tourney style more often over cash games) followed by 25¢, $1, $5, $25, $100, $500, $1k and $5k. I’ve already seen throughout here how frustrating it is and what kind of nightmare it can be like trying just to piece together a full set of only 500 chips using Paulsons, and aside from the fact that it is difficult to get enough of one value/color let alone 11, once you start getting past $1 and $5 chips (which is on the average cheapest at arounf $3 per chip) the price per chip goes through the roof and exponentially more per value/color. And my personal opinion and choice if I did have the money, would be to just head on over to CPC where I have full control over the mold, egde spots and inlay all at once, and would still end up being quite cheaper than Paulsons for that many chips with that range of chip values. So at 62¢, for both the Milano chip and the 2 labels per chip, even just on a starter tourney set of 250 chips will not be a big regret if I change my mind on the design in the future. I do really like the feel of Milanos the most, as compared to going real clay which I can’t afford in the forseeable future, and having a set of 2000 with my own label design feels great already, especially at more affordable cost that I can continue to piece together over a much shorter time and which will still be, by far, the most coveted piece in my poker circle.

In the mean time, just a little idea of what my current desing choice on a Milano chip would look like:

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I'm partial to this design. I might remove the wave pic in the background, don't know how well it will print.

Also, ask yourself why this design is more personal to you. Make sure you can accurately answer that question and it'll save you from future re-labelling projects