Do you care who you sell to? (2 Viewers)

[Moxie Mike]

More of a Sunday-night philosophical question...

This post is inspired by this article and it made me think of my experience on PCF... specifically this passage:

"I was so happy after I met the person that bought my car," Hagar said. "He was so cool, he sees the car the way I always saw the car. Which is that we're just being caretakers of something special, and then you pass it on to another caretaker. So you're just looking in each case for someone who will preserve and take care of the legacy of a car that has this level of perfection."

I've bought and sold in hundreds of deals on PCF over the years. And while many were unremarkable, there were plenty where the transaction went far beyond that of a simple transaction.

A few quick examples I can think of are working with @buffalojim to sell him some Empress chips he'd been seeking, to @quintooo acquiring my Garden City chips since he and his crew have experiences from when that casino was open, to @Godzilla28 graciously breaking up an epic set of Aces Casinos so I and others could felt a playable set. The list goes on. I've actually sold things I didn't necessarily plan to part with only because it was apparent someone wanted them more than I wanted to keep them.

So the question begs: how does the person you're selling to factor in? Does it matter to you?

 

[DrStrange]

There are a few members I will not sell to. Rather give the set away than do business with those members. Not naming names.

There are people I would give preferential treatment to. Even getting me to sell something is a substantial accomplishment. You don't get a five-figure chip count by selling off your children.

Being pleasant to deal with is a plus. Being a pain in the ass could kill the deal. Having a good story to tell is a start on getting me to dig in the closet.

It isn't like I need the cash. I would rather get the chips in the hands of someone who will use and enjoy them. Chipping wasn't a profit seeking hobby for me. -=- DrStrange

 

[Moxie Mike]

Chipping wasn't a profit seeking hobby for me. -=- DrStrange

You've been in the game WAY longer than me.

My perspective is that I've been buying and selling... more or less jockeying for position to acquire what I want to own to assemble playable, usable sets. It's not about the resale value of the chips in question... in fact I'm sure I've devalued some of the mint chips I've acquired due to regular use.

The challenge from my perspective is that if you're going to play the game, you kinda have to try to sell at top dollar because as soon as you become a buyer, you're subject to the same market conditions as everyone else.

 

[TheRealTeddyKGB]

More of a Sunday-night philosophical question...

This post is inspired by this article and it made me think of my experience on PCF... specifically this passage:



I've bought and sold in hundreds of deals on PCF over the years. And while many were unremarkable, there were plenty where the transaction went far beyond that of a simple transaction.

A few quick examples I can think of are working with @buffalojim to sell him some Empress chips he'd been seeking, to @quintooo acquiring my Garden City chips since he and his crew have experiences from when that casino was open, to @Godzilla28 graciously breaking up an epic set of Aces Casinos so I and others could felt a playable set. The list goes on. I've actually sold things I didn't necessarily plan to part with only because it was apparent someone wanted them more than I wanted to keep them.

So the question begs: how does the person you're selling to factor in? Does it matter to you?

Wasn't @quintooo like 13yrs old when that placed closed? lol

If I have an item I know someone wants or is looking for I offer it to that person 1st.

After that I don't care care who I sell to. Even to people overseas.

Now if and when I sell one of my sets that I cherish I will likely only let it go to a good home where I know it will be used & not just flipped...

 

[DrStrange]

I did get in at some of the best times. Chips were almost free in 2009-2010. Plenty of chip room sales for fifty cents to a quarter each - not minty chips, but fine vintage casino chips. And even the "good stuff" was acquired very reasonably. It is almost embarrassing to see so many sets gathering dust.

Almost -=- DrStrange

 

[LeLe]

Yes, I will try to offer my sets locally first as I know shipping can be a pain in the ass for first timer overseas chipper

And I also have a few peoples who I will not sell to for various reasons, I also sell them cheaper for first time / new member bcos I know they will see more gameplays with them compared to someone who have multiply sets.

 

[Jacks]

I have had 99% of my sales been with awesome folks. There’s a few members that are not worth dealing with IMO - although I haven’t yet blocked them.

 

[cpiaaq]

If I list an item for sale, there isn’t anyone I wouldn’t sell to

If it’s not for sale, there are very few people I would open the vault for

 

[Lil Tuna]

There are a few members I will not sell to. Rather give the set away than do business with those members. Not naming names.

There are people I would give preferential treatment to. Even getting me to sell something is a substantial accomplishment. You don't get a five-figure chip count by selling off your children.

Being pleasant to deal with is a plus. Being a pain in the ass could kill the deal. Having a good story to tell is a start on getting me to dig in the closet.

It isn't like I need the cash. I would rather get the chips in the hands of someone who will use and enjoy them. Chipping wasn't a profit seeking hobby for me. -=- DrStrange

100% THIS!

Chipping was never about the money for me. It’s always been about enjoying our treasured sets with like minded folks.
Getting to compete at the card table with people who have that same passion is priceless.

 

[ekricket]

The challenge from my perspective is that if you're going to play the game, you kinda have to try to sell at top dollar because as soon as you become a buyer, you're subject to the same market conditions as everyone else.

When I was in my early 20’s I collected a little bit of stamps. There was a stamp club that met monthly and thru had stamp auctions. They would buy a big lot of decent stuff, then we would open it and auction off the pieces among ourselves. The auction money would buy the next lot.

Anyway, the whole group was old. Older than us now. Like everybody was 80 or older and remembered when stamps came out. The leader was Austin Roquemore. He was about 90 and had been selling stamps literally since grade school. He had good stamps and always a great price.

One time I asked him how he could sell this remarkable stuff and not keep it. He gave me some wisdom that I’ve kept always.

He said “I realized a long time ago that you can’t be a collector and a dealer both. Everybody wants to collect the good stuff, and that’s where the dealer makes his money”

So I’m at peace buying good things and moving them on if need be. I’m a collector, not a dealer. So I don’t have to make money on any of my stuff.


So after all that, yeah, I’m picky about who I sell to. Generally pretty open to anybody, but there are a few people that I’d tell to fuck off if they expressed interest in my stuff. Only because they have shown themselves to be unreliable in transactions, Not because they “are mean”.

 

[Eriks]

I have a few people I wouldn’t sell to. I have those blocked and it mostly has to do with them having a poor track record. Doesn’t really matter though since I almost never sell anything anymore.

 

[Josh Kifer]

Yes. I'll generally give better deals to the closer to my inner circle you are. And a few pcfers are actively blocked for asking for services or stamping. Juice just isn't worth the squeeze.

 

[detroitdad]

If I have a relationship with someone. I will offer them the chips privately at my cost, or close to it. I have even sold at a small loss a few times to help a friend out.

If I am posting them in the classifieds. I am selling them at "market value". It only makes sense nowadays.

 

[merkong]

I won’t sell chips to any chipper who’s going use them to flat me with the nuts and then laugh when I wind up calling off my entire stack.

 

[Josh Kifer]

I won’t sell chips to any chipper who’s going use them to flat me with the nuts and then laugh when I wind up calling off my entire stack.

So I'm out then. I see how it is.....

 

[ovo]

I've worked hard to put together some of these sets. If I sell , it won't be to someone who wants to mill and kill. I would rather sell to someone who values the whole set , over someone that just wants the rare rack in the creamy center, and discards the rest.

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

I've worked hard to put together some of these sets. If I sell , it won't be to someone who wants to mill and kill. I would rather sell to someone who values the whole set , over someone that just wants the rare rack in the creamy center, and discards the rest.

Ovo sell?!

 

[ovo]

Ovo sell?!

careful John, you wanna stay on my good side

 

[DirtyTIVA]

I've worked hard to put together some of these sets. If I sell , it won't be to someone who wants to mill and kill. I would rather sell to someone who values the whole set , over someone that just wants the rare rack in the creamy center, and discards the rest.

I’ve never seen you sell anything, not even a single.

 

[ovo]

I’ve never seen you sell anything, not even a single.

I tried to sell once, I've given away, and I've done a few trades

 

[allforcharity]

I sell to anyone, it's a free market. If I know somebody needs something, or they ask for something, I will reach out to see if I can help.

Have I profited? Hell yeah, but never at prices above market. It's the only way I could ever get to my goal, which I'm 99% there. And I've never been involved in a deal where either side had something to gripe about afterward. 100% fair and transparent.

 

[upNdown]

When you ask the question, there are a few thoughts that fly though my head. But then I think about my history, and the truth is that whenever I’ve listed anything for sale, I’ve always sold to the first guy who would send me money. So I guess the answer is no.

There was one single time that maybe I cared - I had a unique and remarkable set to sell, and I sold it locally to a friend, but that was for a handful of reasons.

 

[ekricket]

There is one user that anything from me is 5x what I would charge anyone else. I figure it is fair, he bought a bunch of chips once and held everyone up for 5x his cost when he didn’t have to.
He knows about this, it’s come up between me and him before.

 

[Josh Kifer]

I’ve never seen you sell anything, not even a single.

I've tried to talk him into it before and it's not possible.... Hahaha

 

[doublebooyah85]

I sell to anyone, it's a free market. If I know somebody needs something, or they ask for something, I will reach out to see if I can help.

Have I profited? Hell yeah, but never at prices above market. It's the only way I could ever get to my goal, which I'm 99% there. And I've never been involved in a deal where either side had something to gripe about afterward. 100% fair and transparent.

You’re doing gods work for us CDI collectors! Booyah Bernie!

 

[Frank]

I tried to sell once, I've given away, and I've done a few trades

I remember seeing that for sale ad. I didn't know what I was witnessing at the time.

 

[pltrgyst]

There are a few members I will not sell to. Rather give the set away than do business with those members. Not naming names.

There are people I would give preferential treatment to. Even getting me to sell something is a substantial accomplishment. You don't get a five-figure chip count by selling off your children.

Being pleasant to deal with is a plus. Being a pain in the ass could kill the deal. Having a good story to tell is a start on getting me to dig in the closet.

It isn't like I need the cash. I would rather get the chips in the hands of someone who will use and enjoy them. Chipping wasn't a profit seeking hobby for me. -=-

Very nice. My attitude precisely.

 

[shorticus]

When I make a purchase, I will typically offer the chips back to the person who originally purchased them from me (I honestly make more of an effort if said person is a friend). I don't mark them up by any means, and I can careless if that person goes out and sells them at market value. I don't care much about profiting off of chips. With that being said, if I list chips for sale, it will be for "market value", but that would be after I have offered them privately to my friends. I don't think I've ever sold chips to my friends at a price above my cost.

If I did, it was to @Beakertwang and it was probably because he sucked out on me in a poker game. This is a variance reduction strategy that I have to implement because he's always chasing me to suck out on the river!

Edit (for clarity): Once listed in the classifieds, I don’t care who buys. I do put specifics in my sale ads. I’m not letting anyone call dibs and then I have to chase them for 3 days to get payment or a response.

 

[UniLover]

If I list them, first dibs at asking gets it. I don't mind haggling and I haggle too, but I wouldn't say yes to someone I have never dealt before for haggling.

If I don't list them and someone asks me to sell something they know I have, then it depends. If I like the chips more than the person then no sale; and vice versa.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Yes. I'll generally give better deals to the closer to my inner circle you are. And a few pcfers are actively blocked for asking for services or stamping. Juice just isn't worth the squeeze.

I'm sorry, I'm indecisive! They're just so pretty!